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Here's the relevant question in light of last night's handling of the Redskins: Were the Giants that good, or were the Redskins that bad?

I'll take the latter. The Giants were sharp in their opening drives, but in the second half when they took their foot off the pedal, they were pretty average. Eli Manning went from brilliant in the first half, to trying like hell to have a four-interception game in the second. The Giants had their moments, but were inconsistent.

The Redskins, however, were extremely consistent, playing terribly on both sides of the ball most of the way. For only a few fleeting seconds did it seem like they had any hope or inspiration at all. 

Brandon Jacobs treated them like Dale Doback and Brennan Huff treated a group of schoolchildren in the closing credits of Step Brothers. Their offensive line was porous. Jason Campbell was ineffective. Nothing went well.

And during last night's liveblog, and in some of the things I'm reading this morning, much of the concern revolves around one Jim Zorn. I can't be objective on the matter, as I believe I'm falling in love with him, so I'll quote from around the Redskins blogosphere:

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Hibachi, commenter on Hogs Haven: "Has Zorn never watched a football game?"

Mister Irrelevant: "LOSERS: Jim Zorn — The offense never got going. At all. And the passing game looked real bad. They were also running the ball and huddling up late in the game while down two scores. And here I thought the clock management issues left with Gibbs."

guinnesscrazy at ExtremeSkins: "Zorn said our run game "looked good" in the presser. I don't think this could be farther from the truth. I think it looked terrible. Our team was embarrassed tonight. The Defense looked horrible to start the game, the O-Line couldn't protect Campbell, Campbell looked indecisive as hell, and the run-run-pass-punt from the Gibbs II era reared it's ugly head. I'm thoroughly disappointed and hope that Zorn realizes it's just as much his fault for the play calling as it is his players for failing to execute."

rich20ssu, commenter at the Washington Post: "One and done. Zorn CLEARLY has absolutely no clue how to manage a game. At least we've got Thomas and Kelly to help solidify the passing game. Oh wait... FIRE ZORN!" (multiple exclamation points edited out)

Fanhouse: "I left this game extremely unimpressed with Jim Zorn. I know it is early on (first game and all) and he must be given some time to install his offense. I get that. But the playcalling and clock management were horrible ... and there are enough veteran coaches on that sideline that know better."

GSPODS at TheHogs.net: "It's painfully obvious that Jim Zorn has no clue what he is doing. The Redskins didn't even try to win the game. Unless that changes, this is going to be the longest Redskins season in recent memory."

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So other than all that, it went pretty well, yes?

All that might seem harsh, but it's not completely unwarranted. Not being a Redskins fan, I'm not going to be as likely to have a let's-all-jump-off-the-roof reaction, but at the same time, some of the things the Redskins did last night were just inexcusable.

If you're not a very good team yet, fine. Things need time to gel, maybe the entire offensive system isn't installed, whatever. But there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of urgency displayed by the Redskins in the last six minutes of the game. And I'm not even talking about the playcalling; the runs, the screens, the throws short of the marker, all with precious time ticking away. That's a whole different issue.

I'm talking about players on the field, walking to the ball, not busting it to get a score on the board as soon as they could. How do you justify that? If it were me in the shoes of a Redskins fan, that's what I'd be concerned about more than anything else. That's a massive failing for which there is no excuse.

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  1. Patrick B
    1. Posted by Patrick B Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Right on about Eli, how many times did he throw it to one of his receivers on the Redskins only to have them drop it? I realize Eli's a giant, that's what makes it funny, he kept throwing to the wrong color. Thankfully for him Burress can catch anything that's tossed near him, and had to last night.
  2. ALRam
    2. Posted by ALRam Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:16 pm EDT

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    A funny thing happened to me this morning.....I was having my coffee,reading my "favorite" BASEBALL blog,when all of a sudden,THEY took the bat out of my hands and THEY were talking FOOTBALL???
  3. Gbdup
    3. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    i saw eli manning throw some bad balls last night that shouldve gotten picked... just like the one in the superbowl which asante samuel had in his hands and flat out dropped.... sooner or later the defense is gonna pick these errant throws off
  4. .................................................!
    4. Posted by .................................................! Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    i was screaming at my TV at the end of the first half, and the end of the game. We had 3 timeouts, no time left...and NO ONE ON THE REDSKINS SEEMED TO CARE. It drives me batty, and it's the same problem we had under Gibbs II...no urgency! AAAHHHHH
  5. Older_than_Moses_Shaq
    5. Posted by Older_than_Moses_Shaq Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    We learned Zorn has a lot to learn and Skins fans are in for a long season. Try and figure out how to manage a clock, Dude. For an ex QB to bungle this badly is embarassing at best, outright stupid at worst.
  6. Gookie
    6. Posted by Gookie Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    It really, truly looked like the Skins were still playing a preseason game. Did Zorn not know this was a real, make-it-count game? Even his reactions and post game quotes were very much like what you see at the end of a week 3 preseason game. Quotes like, "Now we know what we need to work on." That's scary as a Skins fan. Aren't you supposed to know what to work on before the season starts? I know its early, but this guy looked like he didn't have a clue.
  7. FairlyHonestBob
    7. Posted by FairlyHonestBob Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Zorn looked lost in space. Except for a few drives by the Giants, it did look like preseason. Jacobs carrying redskins on his back was the highlight. I don't know why the skins didnt use Cooley. Eli needs to tighten it up, or he will be picked a lot this season.
  8. HatersucckonRomo
    8. Posted by HatersucckonRomo Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:57 pm EDT

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    "We learned" that the Redskins will be cellar dwellers in the East. HAIL TO THE COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  9. Hogs H
    9. Posted by Hogs H Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    "Has Zorn never watched a football game?"
    Our offense made me wish I hadn't.
  10. Cory A
    10. Posted by Cory A Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:54 pm EDT

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    Why didn't Zorn challenge that Santana Moss catch. He was never touched after he got control of the ball. It wasn't even close. That was a touchdown that the refs took away. If thats a td then the redskins kick a field goal at the end and win the game.
  11. Black Superman
    11. Posted by Black Superman Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    that had to be the worst football game to open the season i've ever seen..
  12. Black Superman
    12. Posted by Black Superman Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    my pop warner team has more urgency did these idiots not know that the season started and that it's a division game... the skins have too much talent on offense to only score 7 points...Jason Campbell is horrible the "o-line" is horrible the defense is terrible the skins will win 3 games this year at best
  13. Rachel Q
    13. Posted by Rachel Q Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:24 pm EDT

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    giants r that good
    repeat
  14. ginevg
    14. Posted by ginevg Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    GUYS, don't you understand that Skins played that way because GIANTS ouitplayed and outcoached them?
  15. Aaron G
    15. Posted by Aaron G Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    Wow. Im glad that Im not a skins fan after last night. I almost wish that the Chad Johnson, errr, "ocho cinco" trade came to fruition because there would have been a two hour tirade after the game about the lack of energy on this football team.
  16. Solo
    16. Posted by Solo Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:32 pm EDT

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    I just can’t believe that those guys got paid to play last night. The ENTIRE offense looked like it was the first time they had played together. I've seen more organization out of my family Thanksgiving Turkey bowl!!!! Zorn needs to get it together quick!!! Offensive genius my @_zz!!!!
  17. JamesJ
    17. Posted by JamesJ Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Go Browns!
  18. Charlie A
    18. Posted by Charlie A Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    What the Skins should have done was put Colt Brennen behind center and let him sling it. He may be a roookie, but Campbell is OK with mediocrity...Brennen would have had the sense of urgency. Any coach at this level who cant manage the clock doesnt deserve to be there. I better see a whole different team next week...bring the winning back to Washington!
  19. A Yahoo! User
    19. Posted by A Yahoo! User Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:29 pm EDT

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    Jason Taylor gets traded to Washington.
    And who is his head coach? Cam Cameron reincarnated as Jim Zorn!
  20. Role Model
    20. Posted by Role Model Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:02 pm EDT

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    I looked like the Redskins tried to install the Eagles offense..
    3rd and 5? - incomplete 2 yard pass
    3rd and 10? - 8 yard out to a covered reciever
    4th and 20? - 5 yard checkdown to the runningback
    Welcome to our hell.
  21. jet
    21. Posted by jet Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm EDT

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    neither of those 2 teams are going anywhere...vandy vs south carolina was a better game to watch...go cowboys
  22. jet
    22. Posted by jet Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm EDT

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    colt brennan..hahahahahaha..sorry i digress
  23. Filipos P
    23. Posted by Filipos P Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    I say give Campbell until week 3. If he doesnt improve by then, put in Collins or Brennan.
    Then again, I wish I could see down the field while Campbell was in the pocket and see if anyone was open. That way I would know to blame Campbell or the Skins WRs. Also: the skins should give their new WRs and their new TE a shot to play. I would put in the new TE for Yoder and line him up with Cooley. Then again, Yoder is used primarily as a blocker and not so much to pass to.
    Hope we make the playoffs!
  24. Jeremy
    24. Posted by Jeremy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:30 pm EDT

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    I felt bad for all of the skin fans. Washingyon didn't play with a sense of urgency and Zorn looked lost in the last six minutes with play calling. Down by 2 scores and walking up to the line, going to be a long season.
  25. Bob
    25. Posted by Bob Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    even if redskins lose still awesome to go to fedex field and go to games best staidum in the NFL hail to the redskins and campbell does suck wasnt collins 4-0 as a starter last year

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