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It seems that sometimes-dominant Cleveland Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers has a lot of dislike for new head coach Eric Mangini. So much dislike, in fact, that he's willing to give up six million dollars in order to avoid playing for the guy. 

You know, I think when we get into the millions, we can officially call it hate. Shaun Rogers has six million dollars worth of hate for Eric Mangini. And why? Because Mangini's seen him twice now, and both times, has refused to do a stop-and-chat.

From Adam Schefter at his NFL.com blog:

Rogers has grown so disenchanted with the situation in Cleveland that he has asked the Browns not to pick up the $6 million option-bonus payment due to him next month, a source close to the defensive tackle said. Rogers would rather be released after one season with the Browns, despite still being owed another $15 million in guaranteed money. [...]

Some of Rogers' feelings stem back to two offseason incidents in which he believes Mangini disrespected him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and failed to say hello to Rogers. The next time, at a public charity function in which both men were in the green room, neither said hello to the other, and Mangini later said he didn't know Rogers was there.

Schefter also reports that Mangini thinks he can smooth things out once he talks to Rogers, but there are also people close to Rogers who insist that he won't change his mind. There are also those who believe that there are other reasons behind the big man's displeasure with the organization.

I would hope so, because being that angry over a guy missing two opportunities to talk to you seems slightly petty. If you owed me a $6 million bonus next month, I wouldn't care if you refused to acknowledge me even if I had you in the camel clutch. Ignore me all you want. Slap me in the face. Stab me a couple of times if the mood strikes you. I don't care. Just pay me.

It's a situation to keep an eye on. Not because I think there's any way that the Browns will release him, because they won't. He was too valuable to the team last year, and they'd take too big of a cap hit.

But it's been proven in the past that an unmotivated Shaun Rogers can be an extremely ineffective Shaun Rogers. If it turns into a high-animosity situation, and Rogers ends up playing unhappy the entire year, he could just turn into a giant lump in the middle of the field wearing number 92.

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  1. littlebill
    1. Posted by littlebill Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    Seems to me that my team, who hasn't seen a GOOD season since '89, is full of the same problems they've had since returning in '99. Full of a bunch of pansy-a@#ed, wanna be primadonnas. All of which have yet to learn that you cannot be arrogant, and full of yourself until you've actually EARNED SOMETHING... Play in a playoff game at least before you start acting like you are something special. Typical of the youth of America.
  2. Steve
    2. Posted by Steve Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Oh what a joke, I don't know how much longer I can take being a Browns Fan.
  3. Alfred H
    3. Posted by Alfred H Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    I just hope this isn't as accurate as it sounds... Mangini has never been a players coach, by all accounts. Nevertheless you treat people like people, and your team like a family...
  4. Tom
    4. Posted by Tom Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    Hey Steve, you might consider reading all of Shefters column before becoming a Bronco's fan "Those who know Rogers say his mind will not be changed. But Mangini has had success in these types of settings. When he arrived in New York as the Jets' coach in 2006, wide receiver Laveranues Coles was, at best, a skeptic, but Mangini eventually won him over. Mangini has said publicly that when change occurs, as it did in Cleveland, there is uncertainty..."
    I suspect mr mjd (Whoever the heck THAT is) is trying to get some attention for himself. It is going to be interesting to watch and I still think this will be a good season.
  5. zardpocleeb
    5. Posted by zardpocleeb Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:59 pm EDT

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    What an overgrown baby!!! Grow up, be a man, and get over it. Maybe if more of the Browns players worried more about poor performance and less about petty issues they'd have a better season. I love the Browns and always have, but enough is enough. This is ridiculous!
  6. scott b
    6. Posted by scott b Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:10 pm EDT

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    Romeo`s not looking to bad now is he!!!
    One of the best players on your team and you can`t even say "Hi" to the man.
    Pretty sad these days in Cleveland!!!
  7. torpedo_eight
    7. Posted by torpedo_eight Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:17 pm EDT

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    Things have officially not been right with the Browns since Model hired Belichick. I guess we can't expect any positive news now just because there's been an entire turnover in the coaching staff. There's a remarkable dearth of humility or team play with these guys and I don't think they even realize it. Everything is ME ME ME. Quitting because the coach forgot (or refused) to give you your props is childish and immature.
    And it doesn't win any games, either. Butch up, Skippy.
  8. Joe P
    8. Posted by Joe P Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    I think I'd pay to see somebody put Eric Mangini in a sharpshooter...
  9. patsandy
    9. Posted by patsandy Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:01 pm EDT

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    I think the fans should look at the source of this reporter. My sources ( unnamed as is the reporters) tell me that this reporter is full of lies. Whenever a reporter says sources and no names tell me that the whole story is a lie.
    But it amazes me how dumb fans jump on all bad news. Never giving the new coach and gm a chance.
    Does this make Brown fans losers? Hope not because I am a Browns fan and don't believe a thing most sport reporters feed us. Let me decide what is happening, I'm not getting paid to spew lies like the reporters are.
  10. GwpK
    10. Posted by GwpK Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:12 pm EDT

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    Good luck next season Cleveland Browns.
  11. Steve-Ro
    11. Posted by Steve-Ro Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    Mangina didn't know he was there? How can you miss him? Well I guess the Cinci offensive line did miss him a few times. I agree with number 11. The rapid decline of the Browns has begun.
  12. debussey_99
    12. Posted by debussey_99 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Now I know I wouldn't say Hi to the fat slob - However, I would say Bye!
  13. Scott E
    13. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Just like playing the lottery is a tax on the math-impaired, letting a weak mind wrestle with principles costs not only time but in this case big bucks - ironically for a guy who in essence has already won the lottery. Dumb, dumb, dumb...
  14. Scott E
    14. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Even if there is more to this story as a reason for his malcontent, he is a professional getting paid an enormous amount of money to do his job. Suggestion: suck up the testes and take it like a man. So your boss doesn't love you. Big whoop.
  15. Aaron
    15. Posted by Aaron Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    First off as a long time Cleveland Browns fan, I think it is stupid on Mr. Rogers to act the way he is acting. I still remember there is a knock on him for being lazy. Yes he made the pro bowl this year, but next year can be different & he could suck. Look at B. Edwards who had a great year & then the next season dropped more passes than anything. So I am going to give the new Coach a chances & I like the way he is doing it, you can not always be a players coach type of guy in this league. Players should have to earn that title period.
  16. Scott S
    16. Posted by Scott S Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    So he'll turn into Ted Washington. Great.
  17. Sade E
    17. Posted by Sade E Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:59 pm EDT

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    Do you know how much cap space the dawgs got this off season? If you want to be like that of a selfish little punk, i say we should replace him. Right or wrong, left or right, good or bad, i will NEVER trade in my Cleveland colors!!! Its just not as bad as every one say it is. Whats the worst that can happen, we suck again and pick up TIM TEBOW next year? You think about that one, and I'll go eat some lunch......
  18. jim m
    18. Posted by jim m Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Tebow will suck....
  19. jim m
    19. Posted by jim m Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Andre Ware = Tebow
  20. Scott E
    20. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    What everyone has missed in all this is that Shaun's mom's name is "Chatty Cathy." Now it all makes sense....or not.
  21. Snoh8r
    21. Posted by Snoh8r Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    I'm with you #2 and living here as a displaced fan in Jacksonville doesn't give me much to cheer about football period.
  22. rob s
    22. Posted by rob s Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:54 pm EDT

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    wouldnt the browns be better off drafting a top notch corner/safety instead of aaron curry from the lowley acc and take the chance of getting clay matthews in the second round. The workouts from matthews from the combine where just right there with curry but I would rather have matthews?
  23. Mark M
    23. Posted by Mark M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    as a browns fan living in michigan, i've been crowing all year to my lions fan friends about the shaun rogers trade. every one of them said something back to me like "wait till next year....he's only good for one year, then it'll be the old shaun rogers that stunk up the joint in detroit."
  24. Yooper
    24. Posted by Yooper Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:40 pm EDT

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    Ok let's break this down to its' basics. Forget pro ball, the player, the coach, etc. Bottom line, the Browns are a business. They exist to make money! Now that we shed the, "rah, rah team crap; What do we have here. We have an employee that sees himself as a prima donna. I am the boss here, what do I do? Remind him of who is the boss, just b/4 I totally tube his career.
    Damn, if he can't accept it as a man, like the rest of us, dance on out!
  25. Kelly
    25. Posted by Kelly Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:50 pm EDT

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    Shut up! Just shut up and play some f-ing football. Jesus H., Cleveland!

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