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It seems that no one in Detroit wants to see Matt Millen on television unless it's during a public execution. It's Tuesday, and the articles killing Millen for taking the job and NBC for hiring him are still coming.

Today, it's Tom Kowalski of mlive.com, but he isn't quite as vicious as Drew Sharp of the Free Press or Brian VanOchten of mlive.com were yesterday. Non-Detroit-centric takes on Millen are a little bit more even-handed, like Richard Sandomir's in the New York Times. And ESPN's Tony Kornheiser positively gushes about Millen's ability as a broadcaster.

Of course, Kornheiser giving his opinion on someone else as an NFL broadcaster is a little bit like Millen giving his opinion on someone else as an NFL talent evaluator, but that's a story for another time.

I really hate to not take a side here, but I think the anger that the people of Detroit have is completely justified (not to mention hilarious). And Millen's side of things is valid, too. He is a good broadcaster, and just because he was a disaster as GM of the Detroit Lions doesn't mean he can't ever have a job again.

What do Lions fans want, Millen to lock himself in his house, never work again, and live the life of a hermit? It's punishment enough that he'll be forever regarded as a failure, and if he does continue broadcasting, he'll be fighting that label for the rest of his career.

But then, I put myself in the shoes of a Lions fan, and I think, "Yeah, if he did that to my team, I'd want him to have a little shame. I'd want him to keep his mug off my television for a while."

But you can't tell the guy what to feel, and you can't dictate what he does with the rest of his life. He's got a right to work. He's actually very good at that work. Not being a Lions fan, and not being emotionally invested in the Millen era, I have no problem with him continuing that work.

And given that he won four Super Bowls as a player, whether you want to admit it or not, Millen possesses a ton of football knowledge. The fact that he's able to parlay that knowledge into a good performance as a broadcaster, but could never apply it in the front office, is unfortunate. But that's reality.

Eventually, Lions fans, you will get to a point where you no longer care about Matt Millen. You will. I can say this with confidence, because I'm a Chargers fan who has long since forgiven Ryan Leaf. Time passes, and sometime, way, way, way down the road, a day will come when you no longer hate him. And hopefully, then, you'll be able to listen to him call a game without wanting to put your fist through your television.

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  1. kurt k
    1. Posted by kurt k Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    Lions fans should be more pissed off at Bill Ford Sr. for sticking it out with him in the first place. Millen even said that he should have been let go after last season...how many times does it take for people that Ford Sr. hired say...in a public forum...that they can't believe they're still working for the Lions before Bill starts listening (remember Darryl Rogers). Friends are friends and business is business...if Ford likes him so much...remain as friends...but don't drive your company into the ground because you like someone. Unless Ford's plan was to be the first team in history to follow up an 0-16 season with a 16-0 season...only time will tell if he is that smart...I doubt it!!!
    GO LIONS...GO AWAY BILL FORD SR.!!!
  2. fivekidsdown
    2. Posted by fivekidsdown Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 pm EDT

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    But would there be any problems with Millen taking the Rich Kotite route, disappearing from public view forever only to be brought up every now and again on NFL Network's "Top 10 - Worst..." whatever shows, without ever seeing him and only hearing other players fondly remember what an epic fail his entire career was?
  3. DewPower
    3. Posted by DewPower Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    "Fire Millen" was a rallying cry when Detroit was suffering through his leadership the past couple of years. Now that he has left Detroit it seems that is still their cry. Maybe its because they have nothing else worth cheering. Certainly not the hapless Lions who failed to win a game long after Millen was removed. Maybe the Pistons or Red Wings will give them something this year and they'll lay off Millen. Then again, maybe that will make them even more fire up about their Lions and the years of frustration.
    I am surprised that Millen would be hired as an 'expert analyst' during the same season in which he was fired. I believe there must be MANY more qualified and respected commentators within the sports community. NBC already has an overabundance of staff on their broadcast. Millen really brings nothing new to the broadcast. I believe NBC has shown poor judgement for hiring Millen since his reputation will be tied to his failure in Detroit more than for his past success on the field.
  4. Steve-Ro
    4. Posted by Steve-Ro Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    I am not a Lions fan and I have trouble taking any opinion he has at face value.
  5. sfhoops33
    5. Posted by sfhoops33 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    Forget the past and move on Lions. Don't be bigger losers by crying about it. Matt Millen was playing and losing games, the players should be accountable, don't you think???
  6. domenick2x
    6. Posted by domenick2x Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    Dew Man is right, Millen will now be remembered as a terrible GM (worst ever?) more so than a great player. That's going to have to color any commentary he brings - when he talks about 'talent', I know I'll be thinking that this guy couldn't pick talent out of a mailbox.
  7. denmark240
    7. Posted by denmark240 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:41 pm EDT

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    As a Lion fan, I think im almost more pissed at Kornheiser for suckin Millen's wang so hard. Hes not thaaaat amazing of a broadcaster. Its obvious theyre friends and hes completely biased. I may get over my hate for Matt Millen but he'll still never have any credibility in my eyes. But the real villain here is WIlliam Clay Ford, he's and old senile greedy piece of crap. Rot in hell Ford
  8. SDSuperFan
    8. Posted by SDSuperFan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:31 pm EDT

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    FIRST OF ALL...I too am a CHARGERS Fan...and I WILL NEVER FORGIVE Ryan Cryin' Leaf...Leave Me Alone, Don't talk to me...
    Oh No...That guy is a scum bag...
    I can TOTALLY understand where the Detroit Lions Fan Base is coming from...
    That all I got to say...Good Night ! ! !
  9. Big Popa
    9. Posted by Big Popa Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    I am a Lions fan and I had a hard time just listening to some of the things he was commenting on. I have moved on but it still reminds me of the last few years with him a General Manager. He is a good broadcaster but that's as far as it goes.
  10. Mitchell
    10. Posted by Mitchell Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    I have been a Lions fan for about 15 years now... (keep your comments to yourselves) and there's no reason why this guy Matt Millen should be allowed anywhere near a football game... not at least until he completes a 12-step program to rehabilitate all the 'football knowledge' that was mentioned in the article.
  11. Obie
    11. Posted by Obie Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    how dare you compare millen to ryan leaf.....dumb article
  12. tradetitan
    12. Posted by tradetitan Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 pm EDT

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    Good for Millen. He was a pretty decent personality for Fox when he was there. As a fan of another 'Norse' Division team I was really sad to see him get the axe in Detroit. In reality he should have been fired 2 years ago when it was IMO brutally obvious he is one of the worst GMs in the history of the NFL. This however begs the question, if he is going to give color during games, do we as fans give any credidibility to him when he says things like "He's going to be a star in this league" or "He's a real up and coming player" ?????
  13. DezPaul
    13. Posted by DezPaul Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Worst Owner in the NFL.
    They should fine and public execute the owner of the Lions.
    Pathetic operation over in Detriot.
    I feel bad for the fans.
  14. PPKing
    14. Posted by PPKing Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    have to edit my post.
    GENERAL MANAGER of the worst team in NFL history.
  15. jdibella@...
    15. Posted by jdibella@... Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Kornholer SUCKS as a broadcaster, I can't comprehend how Dennis Miller was run out of town and that moron Kornholer still has a job. At least Dennis Miller was INTELLIGENT (maybe a little TOO intelligent for the average Football fan...), everytime Kornholer talks I want to throw my 61" TV out the window. Lucky for me it's too heavy...
  16. giants
    16. Posted by giants Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:36 pm EDT

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    well the team has 2 good players and a first round draft pick,but don t take a wr in first round .lions fans get over the bad feelings and just start over . in about 15 year you might win 5 or 6 games during the season. ha ha ha
  17. Vinny
    17. Posted by Vinny Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    MJD, full of it as usual. I'm in Detroit and am looking forward to seeing Millen in studio and hopefully in the booth sometime soon. To everyone that blame him for everything, you need to do your research and not take the lazy way out like much of the media. Those first round picks he's always chastised for were actually picked by his bosses (yeah, Jr and Sr). Marty, Mooch - guess who wanted them. Yep, Jr and Sr. That wet toast offense we were stuck with for all those years? You guessed it, Jr and Sr. You think things are going to change with Millen out? Har! As long as Jr and/or Sr can stick their nose in it, we got a whole bunch of the same old Lions. They've owned the team for what, 40-some years? They ain't got it right yet, what makes anyone think they're gonna get it right anytime soon?
  18. JD
    18. Posted by JD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Millian did a great job broadcasting the other night. Seemed to know a lot about football which makes you wonder why he failed so miserable in Detroit.
  19. tsndragon1964
    19. Posted by tsndragon1964 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    when i saw millen on sunday night football in america i turned off. luckily for me i couldnt watch the lions this year because i moved to tn. so for the rest of loyal im truly sorry you had to watch that. in my lifetime ive seen them lose a lot of games. go to the playoffs nearly every year under fontes. but not this many losses in one year. keep your heads up and keep the faith. peace.
  20. AndyA
    20. Posted by AndyA Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    There's a big difference between being able to play and being able to asses talent and run a franchise. Just because you were good at one, doesn't make you good at the other and I think Millen proved that hands down. I don't have a problem with him being there. I think everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion on this though. I personally can't listen to him and think he's lost most of his credibility, but I'm sure there are those who liked him as a player and color man, and will continue to like him. At the end of the day though, I think it says the worst about NBC to sign the guy. It's not like he's hurting for money and needed a job. Let's face it, there are probably 20 resumes sitting at NBC right now that would have been a better pic than this guy. At the end of the day, blame NBC for digging to the bottom of the barrell and signing this guy. I'm sure for them it was just plain shock value. Like the people who have to look at an accident as they drive by. They'll even slow to a stop to do it. Can't explain it, but I think that's the only value your seeing here.
  21. doc_scrumpy
    21. Posted by doc_scrumpy Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    My dog has [profane] things more knowledgable about the sport than Millen is.
  22. james h
    22. Posted by james h Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    matt millen, i believe didn't want to draft Joey harrington so I don't know if he really had that much say on some of the draft choices. I still believe Joey could have been a good NFL qb if he had a good coach and same coordinator for a few years.
  23. celly.cell
    23. Posted by celly.cell Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    Millen sucks and so do the lions itz nobody fault that everything that has to do with the Lions sucks!!, they have talent on that team, Millen was'nt the only one callingthe shots, he was just the moron doing it in public, the other guy behind closed doors is probably laughing his ass off.
  24. dbigbass
    24. Posted by dbigbass Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    I don't know what you Detroit fans are pissed about .Try being a JETS fan!!!
  25. bbrbendejo
    25. Posted by bbrbendejo Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    I thought Matt Millen was the best analyst on the show the other night. It probably helped that I didn't know it was Matt Millen for the first 5 minutes.

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