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Referee Walt Coleman worked the infamous Patriots-Raiders playoff game that introduced the world to the tuck rule. Today, in the Washington Redskins-Carolina Panthers game, Coleman and his crew correctly interpreted another rule that was equally confusing to those watching and, arguably, just as ridiculous. 

With the Redskins holding a 17-12 lead early in the fourth quarter, the team was set to return a punt after forcing a three-and-out from the Panthers. Antwaan Randle El(notes) signaled for a fair catch but was run into by teammate Byron Westbrook(notes) who, while preparing to block, was pushed into Randle El by Panthers safety Quinton Teal(notes). The ball dropped into the resulting scrum, hit Westbrook in the foot and was eventually recovered by Carolina.

Officials discussed the play and initially awarded the Redskins possession before reversing course and giving the ball to the Panthers.

It seemed like a ridiculous call. How could it be legal to intentionally shove a player into another player who had called for a fair catch? Doesn't that violate the spirit of the fair catch?

Apparently not. Coleman explained the ruling after the game (quotes courtesy @RickMaese)

"What happened was, the two guys were blocking each other. The Washington guy got blocked into his own man, so there was no interference. All we had to figure out who touched it first. If the Wash player is stationary and just standing there and not trying to block, then he can't do that. If they are both trying to block, then he can knock him into him. Because they were both engaged, then that's why there wasn't a foul or anything wrong with that play. If the Wash player is stationary and just standing there and the Carolina player had come down there and knocked him, then it would have been totally different."

So if a guy is just sitting around, it's illegal for a defender to shove him into a guy calling a fair catch. But if they're in a tussle, it's allowed.

The players on the Redskins said they were aware of the rule and that they practice blocking players into fair catchers during practice. I've never seen that actually happen in a game though.

I'm a Redskins fan, albeit a completely jaded one, so I'm not the most arbitrary person to be discussing this. It's like asking Charles Woodson(notes) what he thinks about the tuck rule. But I'm not sure what the difference is between getting shoved and getting blocked. Why the subtle difference? As MJD Tweeted after the play, why not just run downfield grabbing a guy by the shoulder pads and throw him into the punt returner every time?

Jim Zorn was confused too. For some reason he challenged the play even though it was clear that the ball hit Westbrook first. Once the ruling was explained there's nothing to challenge, except, perhaps, the absurdity of yet another NFL rule.

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  1. Jr
    1. Posted by Jr Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:39 pm EDT

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    The NFL is losing its appeal to me. Games decided by stupid obscure rules.... babying quarterbacks, handicapping the defensive players...... what time does the hockey game come on?
  2. Anton
    2. Posted by Anton Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:04 pm EDT

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    If this is legal, it should be legal to push an offensive lineman into a quarterback who has already thrown the ball. Technically, the rule is okay and the call was good, but in reality, that really sucks and opens up a whole new style of catching the returners.
  3. ZacharyB
    3. Posted by ZacharyB Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:49 pm EDT

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    Why was Westbrook blocking? Randle El called fair catch. Once that happens, there's no need to block - if some idiot on the Panthers wants to take a shot, let him explain to John Fox why they're all of a sudden taking a penalty. Westbrook should have gotten out of the way.
  4. dunkking23
    4. Posted by dunkking23 Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:54 pm EDT

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    this retarded penalty lost the redskins the game. the whole NFL rulebook should be changed for gay rules like this.
  5. Robert C
    5. Posted by Robert C Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    Well, now we will see more attempts at this...probably mostly resulting in Personal fouls and poor interpretations.
    Number 3 has a good point. Why block? I think it is just instinctual to block in that situation...but if the skins practice this often, they should have known.
  6. insomniacslounge
    6. Posted by insomniacslounge Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:15 pm EDT

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    Ooooh....I can't wait to see what Chris Chase presents next in his installment of "Rules any football should know if they've been watching the sport for a few years." The tackle eligible, perhaps?
  7. Anders
    7. Posted by Anders Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:20 pm EDT

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    This is nothing new. I have seen this happen on multiple occasions over the years. Coaches even teach their players to do this. In reality, if a blocker is positioned right in front of the returner and gets pushed into him, its his own fault. I like the way this is ruled and it should stay this way.
  8. commish
    8. Posted by commish Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    #3 hit the nail on the head but it might be too late now for anything to save the Skins who lost the game and maybe its whole coaching staff. They needed to win this game and by the years end we will be back to wondering who will take this job as coach of the Skins. It will take someone who can get younger talent from the draft and so on and so on.
  9. madmofo1730
    9. Posted by madmofo1730 Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm EDT

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    Why block ? number 3 and 5 are u idiots? he has a job to block, in no way does he know that el has called waived his hand, he has a job to block, that rule is stupid as hell, the only time no interference should be called is if your own player hits the returner on his own, or once his hand is raised and called fair catch he should be able to catch it no matter who hits him and if hit a penalty should be called. Isnt that the intentions of a fair catch,? now if he drops it then ok. Its crap
  10. madmofo1730
    10. Posted by madmofo1730 Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm EDT

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    Why block ? number 3 and 5 are u idiots? he has a job to block, in no way does he know that el has called waived his hand, he has a job to block, that rule is stupid as hell, the only time no interference should be called is if your own player hits the returner on his own, or once his hand is raised and called fair catch he should be able to catch it no matter who hits him and if hit a penalty should be called. Isnt that the intentions of a fair catch,? now if he drops it then ok. Its crap
  11. ChrisW
    11. Posted by ChrisW Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    that play was a big factor in the end of the game, but by no means was the reason the skins lost the game. being a skins fan i have seen many a blown call or indifferent call by and against the skins. they lost this game because of play calling and the samuels injury. if you can't keep a drive going the defense will get tired, which they did, and if you don't have a decent back up or at least a plan to cover up for the lose of a key player you lose. they have been doing that for many years. not just this one.
  12. jonathan s
    12. Posted by jonathan s Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    Well this rule is confusing because I believe that if the ball is already on the ground and a player on the returning team is blocked into the ball then the play is dead. So, pretty weird stuff.
  13. Brett P
    13. Posted by Brett P Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    terrible.
    Thank god for Fantasy Football!!!!
  14. smicow
    14. Posted by smicow Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:51 pm EDT

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    As a long-time suffering Skins' loyalist, today's out-come was decided from the opening kick-off...the Skins' need direction!
  15. insomniacslounge
    15. Posted by insomniacslounge Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:03 pm EDT

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    The same play just occurred again in the Colts/Titans game.
    Perhaps Redskins fans are unfamiliar w/ the play b/c it's so rare for their defense to force punts? :)
  16. TLN
    16. Posted by TLN Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:26 pm EDT

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    Plain and simple. Zorn needs to go. This goes way beyond a botched fair catch and a jacked up ruling. The Skins do indeed need direction and Zorn simply can't provide it.
  17. Mat
    17. Posted by Mat Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:34 pm EDT

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    "The same play just occurred again in the Colts/Titans game.
    Perhaps Redskins fans are unfamiliar w/ the play b/c it's so rare for their defense to force punts? :)"
    Yep I see a lot of upset skins fans here desperately trying to rationalize such a letdown of a game for them.
  18. Simon Moon
    18. Posted by Simon Moon Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:53 pm EDT

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    Anything is possible when you don't know what you're talking about 15 and 17. Skins D comes in to this game 5th in the league. When taking shots at someone you might want to think it through before posting. There are a million other ways you could make fun of this miserable team.
  19. alex
    19. Posted by alex Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:11 pm EDT

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    hey 15 and 17. Chris isnt making excuses. all he is doing is pointing out retarded gray areas which are intrpreted every weekend differently. The NFL rulebook should also include a by-law forcing quarterbacks to wear flags and not allow them to be hit...this game is turning into a sissy sport designed to prolong the careers of the "money makers" ie..quarterbacks! I dont like it when gray area calls determine the outcome of sporting events. o..15 and 17..did u see the obvious holding call on the kickoff return and the PI on Moss in the endzone. Just more examples where the refs blow the game for numerous teams. Referees become more bush league every year.
  20. Dave
    20. Posted by Dave Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:31 pm EDT

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    #3 and 5 are dead correct. Anyone who has ever played knows that when covering kicks you have to know where the ball is, what your return man is doing as well as block your assigned players from the cover team. That's why you always see return players clear out of the location where the ball is going to hit once the return man signals for a fair catch. It's basic fundamentals. Bad play by Westbrook on that one, tough break for the skins.
  21. Dave
    21. Posted by Dave Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:31 pm EDT

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    #3 and 5 are dead correct. Anyone who has ever played knows that when covering kicks you have to know where the ball is, what your return man is doing as well as block your assigned players from the cover team. That's why you always see return players clear out of the location where the ball is going to hit once the return man signals for a fair catch. It's basic fundamentals. Bad play by Westbrook on that one, tough break for the skins.
  22. J
    22. Posted by J Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:48 pm EDT

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    I agree with poster no.#1, Football helps me catch up on my much needed sleep. All I have to do is put on a football game and its like taking sleeping pills. Hockey on the other hand is extremely exciting. I've never fallen asleep watching a Hockey game. Go Caps!
  23. YGM
    23. Posted by YGM Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:56 pm EDT

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    Wow. Boring article. GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  24. g_remedy
    24. Posted by g_remedy Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:08 pm EDT

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    to those complaining about westbrook blocking, he has his back to the fair catch being signaled, that's how the wedge for the return is created, he doesn't know what the returner will do in advance

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