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There are two pieces of evidence which suggest today's third annual NFL game in London between the New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers is a big deal. First, the tickets sold out more quickly than a Springsteen concert in Jersey. Secondly, Roger Goodell takes every opporunity to tell us how big a deal these games are in London. He is so confident in the NFL's presence over there that he plans to add another game and, eventually, a franchise in the British capital city.

Goodell said Friday that "every indicator" shows the British market can support more games, and that having a franchise here is of "tremendous interest" to the league.

Unfortunately for Goodell and the NFL, there's much more compelling evidence that the NFL in London isn't as big a deal as they're making it seem. Anecdotally, I've heard from numerous people that the game is receiving as little buzz across the pond as it is in the States. (Seriously, did you even know there was an overseas game today?)

This morning, John Taylor, an assistant sports editor at The Washington Times who was in London this week, tweeted:

Oh, the Patriots are playing in England. That explains the people in #Patriots gear yesterday. Game getting zero media buildup over there.

Seriously, I was in UK for a week and a half, and this morning, back in the USA, is the first I've heard of Patriots/Bucs.

When he says "zero media buildup," he means it. This morning I went to five of the biggest British news sites and looked for any mention of the NFL game. The results directly contradicted Goodell's assertion that there is "tremendous interest" in the league.

There are 144 stories on the front page of the Daily Mail's Web site, none of which are about Bucs/Patriots. Stories about X-Factor stars and second-tier soccer games? Check. NFL? Zilch.

The Guardian similarly makes no mention of today's NFL action in the city, nor does the front page of the BBC's site or The Sunday Times. In fact, searching through British news sites, the only evidence I could find that an NFL game was to be played in the city today was on The Telegraph's site. That story was only tangentially related to the NFL, though, as it was about Ronde Barber's(notes) "admiration" of British soccer sensation Wayne Rooney.

What about the sellout, though? Doesn't that have to count for something? Not really. The NFL selling out a game at Wembley doesn't mean London wants American football any more than it means America wants soccer because people bought 75,000 seats to a Chelsa-AC Milan exhibition in Baltimore.

If there was "tremendous interest," it would merit more than one front page story on five of the biggest news sites in London. And there'd be a real buzz going through the city, not manufactured NFL hype. If there's viable overseas interest, the NFL would be stupid not to consider expanding. If there's not, they'd be foolish to pursue such a lofty goal. The league needs to be careful not to confuse novelty with viability.

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  1. fictional character
    1. Posted by fictional character Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:34 am EDT

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    it's the second story on bbc's sports page.
    criticizing it for not being on the bbc homepage is like criticizing an upcoming game for not being on yahoo's homepage, which, of course, never happens.
  2. Sam C
    2. Posted by Sam C Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:55 am EDT

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    Who cares? if they dont like the NFL, its not our problem. Id rather not expand the NFL, and have it exclusively in America.......
  3. boston
    3. Posted by boston Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:59 am EDT

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    I get yahoo updates from the keywords New England Patriots, and all week long there's been a ton of British and Irish stories on the game.So, if I've been able to read British news about the game, how is there no interest over there?
  4. Peter D
    4. Posted by Peter D Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:00 pm EDT

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    if chelsea & AC WERE playing a game in baltimore, would it make the headlines here?
    no
  5. tommyc1873
    5. Posted by tommyc1873 Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:02 pm EDT

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    I was going to post a similar comment to the one above. I visit BBC Sport's website on a daily basis, and they have been advertising the London NFL game all week, and in prominent position. The only article that is listed higher is the English Premier League matches, which will never, ever be shifted from top spot for long for anything other than the world cup, european cup or champions league. There is interest across the pond. It is definitely a minority taste, which is to be expected at such an early juncture, but it continues to grow. I believe a franchise in London would be financially successful. Whether top players would be willing to make England their home is the bigger question. British fans would get behind the team, and Wembley would probably sell out every game, but while players enjoy traveling to London for one game a year, would they be willing to stay?
  6. rjbell4
    6. Posted by rjbell4 Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:04 pm EDT

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    As of 12:02 PM ET, the front page of the BBC's main page has a link to the story "Patriots in form for Wembley game".
  7. Geoffrey E
    7. Posted by Geoffrey E Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:06 pm EDT

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    There have been articles about it all week. So the country doesn't come to a grinding halt because there is an American football game in London. Big deal. That doesn't mean there isn't significant interest. Maybe not enough to warrant a franchise, but so what?
  8. minijonb
    8. Posted by minijonb Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:07 pm EDT

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    This article is flawed in so many ways.
    As f.c. mentioned, the sport homepage is much better to use as a measure than the news site homepage.
    A quick sellout like that is important to the teams and markets involved regardless of the sport.
    And the author hasn't noticed that America does want soccer, so the author is just another xenophobe who hates anything that isn't down-home American, right-wing approved.
    I almost never comment on this stuff, but I had to this time.
    Chris Chase doesn't deserve a forum like this since he can't do basic research without injecting personal bones to pick.
  9. minijonb
    9. Posted by minijonb Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:11 pm EDT

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    "The NFL selling out a game at Wembley doesn't mean London wants American football any more than it means America wants soccer because people bought 75,000 seats to a Chelsa-AC Milan exhibition in Baltimore."
    Wrong. Both indicate interest. This article is flawed in many, many ways.
  10. John S
    10. Posted by John S Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:13 pm EDT

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    The NFL belongs in America, and that's the way it should remain.
  11. Dippiscott
    11. Posted by Dippiscott Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:16 pm EDT

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    An NFL franchise in London would be a logistcal nightmare. Someone please put a stop to this foolishness already...
  12. Dippiscott
    12. Posted by Dippiscott Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:18 pm EDT

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    sorry, logistical
  13. MarkT
    13. Posted by MarkT Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:34 pm EDT

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    If anything, people in London care more after the NFL team leaves, because the soccer field is usually torn to hell and back and it pisses off the soccer fans.
  14. ]{AOSSSSSSSSSS
    14. Posted by ]{AOSSSSSSSSSS Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:43 pm EDT

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    Man
    what a bunch of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    as if you'd go to london
    goodell's a goof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  15. .max.
    15. Posted by .max. Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:46 pm EDT

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    well, i know one snobby american sports writer who cant get his facts straight from his complete bull.
    might I add a snobby american sports writer who writes "second-tier" reports for yahoo, note, 14 comments, including this one, no wonder nobody cares what you have to say, chasey.
  16. Livin' the Vegas Life
    16. Posted by Livin' the Vegas Life Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    Didn't the German teams in NFL Europe out draw London team?
  17. Benjamin B
    17. Posted by Benjamin B Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    I wonder, logisticaly, how one would go about scheduling games.
    It might not be so bad- as I understand it, one can fly from NY to London in about 7 hours. That's about the same as Miami to Seattle.
    The trick would be scheduling teams on the East coast, to avoid length flights. Or perhaps scheduling a string of road games, ie play NY, then fly over to to fight the London Sillynannies (Family Guy reference).
    It would also be necessary to have not just one team in England/Europe, but at least two. This would grow a clearly visible rival instead of just having "British team vs all the Yanks" mentality. It would also ease the scheduling burden, if two of the expansion teams were against each other. Less travel for them and 2 less games off the schedule American teams would have to travel over.
    I don't particul support the idea of European expansion for the NFL, but it's fun to think about :)
  18. ThomasS
    18. Posted by ThomasS Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:49 pm EDT

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    I'm currently living in Scotland and I can tell you that there is a fair amount of interest in the game here, albeit not as much as the good commish might have us believe. If, as Goodell proposes, there were a game played in Glasgow, then interest in Scotland would be absolutely massive.
  19. Steven
    19. Posted by Steven Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:52 pm EDT

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    If the U.K. is so interested in American football then why did the London Monarchs from that NFL Europe league go bankrupt?
  20. watsonmichaela
    20. Posted by watsonmichaela Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:54 pm EDT

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    sky sports (like espn in the states) shows highlights of NFL games every sunday. NFL gets way more coverage in England than the EPL does in the states.
    I would put this column under "opinion".
  21. Chris C
    21. Posted by Chris C Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:01 pm EDT

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    Guys, there were at least a half-dozen soccer stories on each of those front pages.
  22. Moonax
    22. Posted by Moonax Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:06 pm EDT

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/25/new-england-tampa-nfl-wembley
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/24/tampa-bay-buccaneer-glazers-manchester-united
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/23/tom-brady-david-beckham-patriots-quarterback
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/oct/23/nfl-talkboard-week-seven
    Four articles in one paper over three days. Obviously Chris Chase didn't actually bother reading the Guardian website, or probably even visiting the site.
  23. emoney_ca
    23. Posted by emoney_ca Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:09 pm EDT

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    #4 lol@ u for believing that
  24. Kim S
    24. Posted by Kim S Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:15 pm EDT

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    Liverpool 2.
    Manchester United 0.
    That's the big sports story here today. That's the most heated rivalry in English sport.
    The NFL hasn't got a hope of making headlines in the light of Liverpool v Man Utd.

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