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Former New York Giants and Minnesota Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton has once again spoken up on the new generation. The 69-year-old Hall-of-Famer, who at one point held just about every major career passing record and played in three Super Bowls, has a successful life after football as a sometime TV personality and full-time entrepreneur. But that doesn't keep him from opining on the current group of signal-callers who draw his ire for various reasons.

First, there were his May, 2009 comments on 790 the Zone in Atlanta about serial retiree Brett Favre(notes). When asked about Favre's continued dalliances with the NFL, Tarkenton was more than succinct.

"I think it's despicable. What he put the Packers through last year was not good. Here's an organization that was loyal to him for 17, 18 years, provided stability of organization, provided players. It just wasn't about Brett Favre. In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favres of the world so much, they think it's about them ... I kind of hope (Favre's unretirement) happens, so he can fail."

Well, bah, humbug! Of course, Favre put us all through a few months of media torture in his current comeback to the Vikings, but he's certainly isn't failing. As he acclimates to Minnesota's offense, he's lighting it up at an age when most quarterbacks only wish they could. Having swung and missed on Favre, Tarkenton has now taken aim at another NFC Norris quarterback -- one Jay Cutler(notes), fresh from his five-pick disaster against the 49ers last Thursday. Back on the radio went Fran, and back went the mouth into overdrive, on Chicago's "Waddle and Silvy Show" (no, really):

"I really question whether he can play. Quarterbacks need to make their team better. If it's a bad team, they can even make a bad team better. Somebody may say well, even Peyton Manning(notes) couldn't help the Bears. Yes, he could. Tom Brady(notes) could, too. They might not win the championship or get to the playoffs, but they would make that team better. Those wide receivers who are struggling would be better because they would make them better."

Tarkenton then went on to say that the best way for Cutler to prove him wrong was to march into offensive coordinator Ron Turner's office and "tell that coach [expletive]." Tarkenton related a story in which he told the young Dan Fouts to tell his offensive coordinator to kiss off. Of course, one of the guys responsible for Fouts' development was Bill Walsh, San Diego's offensive coordinator in 1976, and I sincerely question the professional future of any quarterback dumb enough to pop off to Walsh.

If he can take it as he dishes it out, I think the best advice for Tarkenton could be taken from that noted military philosopher, Sgt. Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis." The pressure on these guys is bad enough, even when it's self-imposed, without former greats copping headlines with their "Grumpy Old Men" routines at the worst possible time. Telling guys like Favre and Cutler to "get off my lawn!" just stings Tarkenton's own legacy, and that's a shame.

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  1. sam spade
    1. Posted by sam spade Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:30 am EST

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    If you don't know, the reason why Tarkenton has been persona non grati around the league for years, is that he said that blacks weren't smart enough to be QB's. When Dante Culpepper was there(Minnesota) and they had a reunion of Francis' old team; it was seen as a big event when he and Culpepper shaked hands. Consider the source.
  2. Jeffery W
    2. Posted by Jeffery W Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:40 am EST

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    I have been a Vikes fan since 1969 and even I must say..............Francis Shut the hell up already...You had your chances and couldnt get us a win. Let the next gut try without your over the hill mouth flapping. Go Vikes!!
  3. packtojet
    3. Posted by packtojet Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:40 am EST

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    What's despicable is the jealous rant of hasbeen Tarkenton! He hates that Favre came onto his turf, and many might say did a good job while leading "his" team. Tarkenton gripes about guys still doing what he can no longer do himself--and it makes him a petty loser! Favre is in your house Fran--and is certainly equal to your claim of greatness.
  4. Ron H
    4. Posted by Ron H Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:41 am EST

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    test
  5. Joel M
    5. Posted by Joel M Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:52 am EST

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    That's so annoying when people type NFC Norris... Is everything about Chuck?
    It's Norse. As in the "Norseman."
    Definition: The meaning of Norseman was "people from the North" and was applied primarily to Nordic people originating from southern and central Scandinavia.
  6. BB
    6. Posted by BB Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:54 am EST

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    What a pathetic old loser. Here's all that needs to be said of Tarkenton: 3 Superbowls, 1 touchdown pass, 6 interceptions, 3 Superbowl losses.
  7. frmattf
    7. Posted by frmattf Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:07 pm EST

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    Norris is not a reference to Chuck. It is a reference to the old hockey divisions.
  8. Matthew
    8. Posted by Matthew Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:11 pm EST

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    @#5
    The reason it is referred to as the Norris Division has nothing to do with Norseman or Chuck Norris. It has to do with the old hockey division names, of which one was the Norris Division that included teams from Minnesota, Chicago, and Detroit much like the NFC North division of football. Chris Berman refers to it as the Norris Division because it is always tough and cold, much like hockey.
    Happy to enlighten.
  9. herbbruce@...
    9. Posted by herbbruce@... Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:15 pm EST

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    I was always a fan of his, but I'm beginning to think Ole' Fran has lost it, or never had it. He's seems to be focused on all the wrong things. I wonder what he thinks of Ted Thompson. Brett has proven everyone wrong. The apologies, including his, should be pouring in from everywhere. The Booing Cheeseheads should hang their heads in shame. Thanks to Ted, the class of the league is now on the same level as the Cowgirls.
  10. FairlyHonestBob
    10. Posted by FairlyHonestBob Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:16 pm EST

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    Sounds bitter. I guess never winning the big one can make an old Q B that way.
  11. muGz
    11. Posted by muGz Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:24 pm EST

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    All respect aside for one that was one of the best in "his time". But seriously Fran...STFU already. You're making a fool of yourself and the only thing that's "dispicable" here, is your whining and bitter rhetoric.
  12. brian b
    12. Posted by brian b Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:24 pm EST

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    Who's Fran Tarkenton?
  13. thorp212
    13. Posted by thorp212 Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:27 pm EST

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    You had your chance, and just because you didn't win the big game, your ego can't take it. You sound as pathetic as Boomer Esiason digging on Favre any chance he gets. Do everybody a favor and shut up.
  14. STEVEN
    14. Posted by STEVEN Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:32 pm EST

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    Fran's Superbowl record speaks for itself. He did more for Packer fans than Viking fans. He has no credibility as a football analyst. Once you steal from the old, poor and gullible on late night television, you lose all credibility as a person. Why does anyone bother paying attention to the man?
  15. Jaws
    15. Posted by Jaws Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:32 pm EST

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    When Tarkenton was traded to the New York Giants in 1967, how much did he help them become a better team? Not at all. They were not even a threat to make the playoffs, much less contend for a championship. Come to think about it, the Vikings were not very good when he was first there. It wasn't until his second stint in Minnesota did Tarkenton quarterback a playoff team, and the Vikings had already been to the Super Bowl once with the Purple People Eaters Defense before he returned. You could make an argument that a quality quarterback from the 70's like Bert Jones, Jim Hart or Ken Anderson could have won a Super Bowl with those Vikings teams.
  16. David
    16. Posted by David Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:34 pm EST

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    In this day of watered down comments and politically correct BS, it's nice to see someone speak their mind without a filter. I might not agree with what he says but at least he has the guts to say it. He and John Riggens should go out for beers.
  17. Devin
    17. Posted by Devin Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:36 pm EST

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    Tarkenton needs to shut his mouth. His time in the limelight is over. Shut your mouth and enjoy the fact that you couldn't lead the Vikings to any Super Bowl victories...
  18. wadudem
    18. Posted by wadudem Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:43 pm EST

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    Wow, this old guy is nuts. Keep the insane comments coming though, kind of funny to hear an old guy like this sputtering nonsense..
  19. YGM
    19. Posted by YGM Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:53 pm EST

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    Tom Brady could make the browns better!!! GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. rocky63215
    20. Posted by rocky63215 Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:56 pm EST

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    Tarkenton has it right, Favre is an above average quarterback that he is so over hyped it's unbelievable! Favre is not better than Marino, Elway, Montana, Bradshaw, Unitas, Young, Cunningham, Brady, Manning, Brees, Tarkenton, Aikman, Moon, and a bunch of other quarterbacks.
  21. rocky63215
    21. Posted by rocky63215 Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:57 pm EST

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    Also, Favre is a coward for what he did to the Packers organization!
  22. rocky63215
    22. Posted by rocky63215 Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:05 pm EST

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    Devin J do you really believe that Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the Superbowl and to a win? He only one Superbowl in his prime, so what makes you believe that he'll be able to do it now? The Vikings will be lucky to win one game in the playoffs.
  23. Schmee
    23. Posted by Schmee Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:12 pm EST

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    I think Fran's old enough to start chalking all of his comments up to senility :)
  24. Oliver Klosov
    24. Posted by Oliver Klosov Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:22 pm EST

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    Fran who? old fart -

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