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New York Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce(notes) grew up as a fan of the Oakland Raiders. And he doesn't like taking shots at other NFL teams.

When appearing on Sirius NFL Radio yesterday, though, host Alex Marvez asked Pierce if the Raiders were as bad as they seemed. Pierce just couldn't stop the truth from pouring out. It's not pretty, if you're a Raiders fan. Pierce said that playing the Raiders felt like a light scrimmage.

"I do not like knocking teams. But right now, they're struggling. We're playing that game the other day and, honestly, it felt like a scrimmage, like a practice. It felt like we were going against our offense (in a controlled setting) as far as the tempo.

"There was no vibe of trying or effort from the Raiders at all from a defensive standpoint against their offense. We're getting three-and-outs. You don't hear nobody (saying), 'Hey, let's go!' trying to pick the guys up, rallying them, getting guys fired up. There was nothing. It was quiet. A guy gets sacked or somebody gets beat, they just get up. It's not like there's yelling or no kind of (emotion) about the way they were playing.

"It was shocking to be out there in that game and get that kind of feeling."

Oh, dear. I can't say the comments are shocking, because that's what it felt like to watch the game, too. It was like Captain Lou Albano's (rest peacefully, Captain Lou) British Bulldogs against Reno Riggins and Iron Mike Sharp.

And it was only back in Week 1 that the Raiders seemed so ... borderline competent. Almost prideful. Non-embarrassing to the National Football League. From there, it took only a month for them to fall back to the depths of the sad, pathetic and unlovable.

The saddest part of it is that this could probably be fixed by one little move: benching JaMarcus Russell(notes). It's not uncommon for a team to play more inspired football for one quarterback than they would for another, and while we can't know for sure until we see another quarterback play, the Raiders seem to be a likely candidate for such a syndrome.

Put yourself in a Raider's shoes. Why go out there and spend your blood, sweat and tears when it's an absolute certainty that the quarterback will do something to submarine everyone else's efforts?

I'm not saying that's good, or that it's the right attitude for a teammate to have, but there is a certain logic to it. It happens. It's happening right now, in fact.

Gracias, Pro Football Talk.

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  1. jcompton
    1. Posted by jcompton Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:46 pm EDT

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    You didn't just badmouth Iron Mike Sharpe, did you?
  2. Micah
    2. Posted by Micah Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:48 pm EDT

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    AP tells it like it is
  3. Mike
    3. Posted by Mike Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:51 pm EDT

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    hahahahah raiders suck big time loooooool
  4. Will
    4. Posted by Will Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:56 pm EDT

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    In week one, both the Raiders and the Bills seemed like they could be surprisingly good teams. It is disappointing.
  5. Anrkist
    5. Posted by Anrkist Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:56 pm EDT

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    Captain Lou died?!?! Also, who would take Russell's place? Not like they have a lot of options at QB.
  6. nyyankeefan1903
    6. Posted by nyyankeefan1903 Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:00 pm EDT

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    try proud, not prideful dude. i know prideful's in the dictionary, but it's only there because it's become such a common error.
  7. Don t Hate Bitches
    7. Posted by Don't Hate Bitches Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:00 pm EDT

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    As a lifetime Raider fan, this year's team is the worst team we have had...and in the past few years we had plenty. Russell needs to be bench and taught correctly behind a veteran QB. He is too immature to lead a team, let alone one in turmoil like my Raiders. Let Gradkowski start and see if the rest of the team at least get's behind him. If not, then we know the problem lies further that him.
    R8DR4LIFE!!!!
  8. SB 13
    8. Posted by SB 13 Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:00 pm EDT

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    The NFL is a better league when the raiders are playing good football... as a raiders fan, Al Davis has done great things for the league (years ago) but he needs to go... The league should get together and flush his old a$$ out! It's gonna be a long 2 seasons....
  9. Don t Hate Bitches
    9. Posted by Don't Hate Bitches Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:01 pm EDT

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    Fukallr8drh8rs!!!!!!!!
  10. HawkeyeGirl
    10. Posted by HawkeyeGirl Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:01 pm EDT

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    The Raiders and their current situation is really just sad. Here's a team with a famously dedicated fan base and a history of excellence that has become just a mockery of professional football. Last year's Detroit Lions team was awful, but you never once got the sense of apathy-the players hated that they were losing and often seemed frustrated and embarrassed.
    This Raiders team does not care if they lose, because they know that there is nothing that they can do to make things better. Jamarcus Russell is overweight and out of shape and hasn't bothered to learn the offense, but he has been guaranteed the starting spot so he has no motivation to get better. So he doesn't, and the other players feel no passion to perform for him. They look at their coach who nearly killed another coach and is being criminally investigated for it. They certainly aren't motivated to play for him. Then they see the owner who is completely out of touch with the world and wastes high draft picks on subpar players, signs and releases quality players on a whim, an fires anyone who doesn't agree with everything he does. Why would you play hard for that guy?
    I've never been a Raiders fan, but as a fan of football it's still makes me uncomfortable to see a once proud franchise become such a joke.
  11. Robert C
    11. Posted by Robert C Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:04 pm EDT

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    I don't see how a QB change could make that team much better. They suck across the board.
    It is pretty sad to continue to watch. At first it was kind of amusing watching them suck for a few years and make bad moves, etc. Now it is just sad and pathetic.
  12. richard j
    12. Posted by richard j Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:05 pm EDT

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    they should go get garcia... he's a way better option right now.
  13. Bob B.
    13. Posted by Bob B. Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:14 pm EDT

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    I hate it when I have to agree with MJD. But watching this past Sunday was the first time in over 30yrs I ever turned a Raiders game off.
    Wish I could start being a fan for a different team that wants to win, but as all the real Raiders fans know; Once a fan always a fan.
    Is Al trying to get attendance to drop so he can move the team again?
  14. loraineburtch@...
    14. Posted by loraineburtch@... Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:14 pm EDT

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    Garcia left the Raiders because he couldn't stand seeing the team go downhill! I'm a life long Raider fan, and I have given up. I won't watch them again until and unless huge changes are made: get rid of Russell, Get rid of Cabel, buy a decent quarterback, tape Al Davis' mouth shut!!!!! I had season tickets to the Super Bowl Champion Raiders and the coaching, playing, etc. is like night and day. So sad to see their demise.
  15. Hunter Hunt Huntley
    15. Posted by Hunter Hunt Huntley Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:25 pm EDT

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    you know what else is in the dictionary because it's become a common error? commentator. it's actually commentor. nobody commentates, they comment. funny, huh?
  16. NITRO
    16. Posted by NITRO Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:27 pm EDT

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    Get a new team raiders fans. what a sorry franchise. a first round pick every year, over paying guys every year to win 2 games a year for the past 8 yrs. how can you be proud to be a gayders. gayders fans=losers................................. gayders=losers
  17. vanessa
    17. Posted by vanessa Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:33 pm EDT

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    Raiders suck por vida!
  18. B C
    18. Posted by B C Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:35 pm EDT

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    Please Al, just Die already.....As a loyal Raider fan, I want to see a Superbowl in my lifetime....
  19. Rich W
    19. Posted by Rich W Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:37 pm EDT

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    I'm a Raiders fan and I agree there is nothing there. Bench Russell give us fans something to look forward to. Gradkowski looked good week 1, at least he plays with emotion.
  20. Johnny Y
    20. Posted by Johnny Y Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:40 pm EDT

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    Oakland is where hope goes to die. Despite their one win, does anyone think the raiders would beat the rams? or kc in a rematch? They are getting progressively worse, while at least teams like KC and the rams being winless are showing some improvement/heart.
    after 1 week, seymour became a total non-factor and has disappeared. RIP
  21. SPORTS WITH STEVE
    21. Posted by SPORTS WITH STEVE Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    Wow! thats what im hering in oaktown and former players that there just collecting paychecks and there not playing. theres no heart and the o feels that jr has to go. javon walker is lazy and many others. cable has the problem but the players are not dumb. there not going to play if the coach is in trouble and just play for the paycheck. the raiders need john gruden back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  22. OKRAIDERFAN
    22. Posted by OKRAIDERFAN Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    #13 I also agree. I too hate to agree with anything writen by MJD but this time he's correct.
    I've been a Raider fan since the old AFL days and have always defended my team through out the years good or bad. However, this team, this year has just crushed my desire to watch football all together and I love football. Seems I just can't get behind any other team in the NFL and my team is beyond god awful after only 5 weeks.
    Once a fan, always a fan who bleeds silver and black each Sunday!!!
  23. K NEL
    23. Posted by K NEL Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    This is beyond Jamarcus Russell. Al Davis needs to go and so does Cable and the whole staff. Jamarcus nees a real QB coach b/c the only thing wrong with him is his accuracy. Guy has a huge arm but does no good if you overthrow, throw behind, and throw it to the ground. Dude is not accurate at all. Hell Tim Couch wasn't that bad. Al Davis hires coach after coach without giving the good candidates a chance. No coach is going to turn this team into a winner in 2-3 years. Should've kept Lane Kiffin, Art Shell, or go back to the super bowl team with Gruden as coach. Something needs to happen b/c this crap is rubbing off on my Chiefs..
  24. shorty
    24. Posted by shorty Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    The defense is not that bad you gotta trade russell and get some wide receivers noboby on the raiders can catch it's the only chance they have even the loins did'nt look this bad last year and did'nt win a game
  25. J B
    25. Posted by J B Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:50 pm EDT

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    Now that they've got their one win, don't expect the Raiders to win another if AP is right. They won't be compared to last years Lions, although they should be. Maybe next year they can go for a perfect 0-16 unless Al Davis dies before then. What does Al see in Jacrapus Russell anyway?

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