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Lots of interesting topics and debates in the boxing mailbag this week, so let's get right to it. And again, a request, please give your full name and hometown to get the most consideration.
Mosley over the hill
Finally, Floyd has awaken from his deep slumber by accepting Mosley in a match on May 1. My question is this: Will Floyd ask Mosley to submit himself to Olympic-style drug testing in this fight? Is this testing included in their agreement? Another thing I would like to know is why Floyd has signed to fight Mosley given that Mosley is already over the hill at this point?
Mayweather and Mosley will each be subject to random blood and urine testing administered by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, without restriction. It is in their contract. Your second point is one that will be raised if Mayweather wins, but is highly unfair. Mosley is coming off a one-sided demolition of Margarito and is ranked No. 3 by Yahoo! Sports and Ring Magazine and No. 4 by ESPN.com. If he's over the hill, he doesn't deserve to be ranked so highly. Boxing media vote in both the Yahoo! Sports and Ring Magazine polls (ESPN's rankings are solely the opinion of its boxing writer, Dan Rafael) and in each case, Mosley was ranked third. Mosley's age will be used to discredit Mayweather in the event he wins by Pacquiao fans and other detractors, but it is no issue given his recent performance and his rating.
Did you read The Ring article on Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. the all-time great welterweight fighters? I was rather stunned to see Mayweather even being compared with some of them, let alone read that he would beat the majority, even giving Sugar Ray Robinson a close fight. How much do you agree with the article?
Fort Walton Beach, Fla.
I did see the story and I commented on it before. Much of it is speculation and opinion, given they'll never box. I was disparaged by Felix Trinidad fans in 2005 when I predicted Winky Wright might win every round in their fight. It turned out I was right on the money. But then I was filleted by Ricky Hatton fans (albeit AFTER the fight) for predicting that Kostya Tszyu would rout Hatton. It turned out to be a rout, but in Hatton's favor. The point is, everyone has an opinion and as long as those opinions are based upon fact and reality, I'm not going to begrudge anyone theirs. I think Mayweather is an all-time talent, but I don't feel he'd have given either Robinson or Henry Armstrong much of a fight. That's not to demean him; there are only a handful of guys in history who could have given them a go. I agree with your opinion that pressure is the way to beat Mayweather, but he's so aware defensively, even that's a tough chore.
Maybe I'm just missing something here. So, we've come to the conclusion that the mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao is in limbo, but haven't we all learned what happens when you don't cash in your chips at the right time? We just assume Pacquiao is going to steamroll through a more than formidable opponent in Clottey and Mayweather is somehow going to just manhandle the once pound-for-pound king and future Hall of Famer, Shane Mosley. If one or both of these fighters lose in their upcoming fights, something tells me there will be more than bruised chins to contend with. I have a feeling there will be an abundance of bruised egos to go around, ranging from the warring pound-for-pound champions to their mud-slinging promoters. Pacquiao and Mayweather are each fighting opponents who might feel slighted about not being taken seriously. History shows, especially boxing history, what can happen when a fighter has nothing to lose. Doesn't Buster Douglas ring a bell?
Wayne, it was clear the sides could not come to a deal for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, so at some point, they had to move on. The entire sport was in a stranglehold while they tried to finalize their deal. Mayweather agreed to fight the next best available opponent. Pacquiao agreed to fight a tough guy (though far less formidable than the man Mayweather will face). I may be in the minority, but I don't think we'll ever see Mayweather-Pacquiao. It's very disappointing, but we have to live with it.
Most beaten 'unbeaten' fighter
Could Miguel Cotto possibly be the most beaten undefeated fighter ever? It is clear Antonio Margarito had used the illegal wraps when he fought Cotto and now we have reason to believe Pacquiao might have cheated in their Nov. 14 fight. Where does that leave Cotto?
It leaves him nowhere differently than he is now. He's likely to face Yuri Foreman for the World Boxing Association super welterweight title on June 12 in New York. While my very strong sense is that Margarito had the illegal wraps when he fought Cotto, there is zero proof, and there were television cameras in there when he was being wrapped. And just because Floyd Mayweather Sr. made unsupported allegations should in no way lead one to conclude Pacquiao is or ever has used performance enhancing drugs.
I know you said that you didn't think Mayweather and Pacquiao purposely squandered this initial fight negotiation. But, the way things are turning out, with the two buildup fights, it looks like someone planned this perfectly. I think they will fight and next time it will make that much more money because of the anticipation, assuming both fighters win their next bouts.
Fighters fight, Charles, so when they couldn't hook up with each other, they turned toward other opponents. In the Mayweather-Mosley fight, you have the Nos. 2 and 3 fighters in the current Yahoo! Sports rankings. I'm not sure how that's characterized as a buildup fight. You may be right; there certainly is enough money in the fight to motivate the promoters to make Mayweather-Pacquiao if each wins. But that was also the case after Pacquiao stopped Cotto in November and we know what happened.
Not buying PPV
I am dumbfounded anyone would even pay a single red cent to watch another Mayweather or Pacquiao bout ever again. What a disgusting display of pompous behavior by them both. Floyd Mayweather is a joke, and a bad one at that, and Manny isn't much better in my book for whining about having to submit to blood tests before the fight. Unless these two meet up again, I'll never spend another cent on PPV for either one of them.
St. Louis Park, Minn.
That's certainly your right, Rich, and it's the best way to express your displeasure.
Seeing your analysis of Margarito's record, I went to check Manny Pacquiao's career. Guess what I found? He was 23-1 with 14 knockouts when he fought his first world championship with Chatchai Sasakul at 112 pounds, a knockout ratio of 58.3 percent. Since, he has gone 27-2 with 24 knockouts, a far better 82.8 percentage against better and bigger competition. To me, this raises doubts that I never even thought about. I mean, I admire Manny, but the numbers are telling me Floyd might be on to something.
The numbers can be made to tell a story. Both were young when they turned pro. Pacquiao was 16 and Margarito 15. But Margarito appears to have been more physical. He turned pro as a lightweight and was a welterweight within a year. Pacquiao was growing and moved through numerous classes as he matured. What does that mean? Who knows? I'll leave it up to each person to decide. Boxing history, though, suggests a fighter's knockout ratio dips as his competition increases.
Your article on Margarito was spot on. It is in a humanitarian sense the finest article you have written.
Thanks, Bruce. I'm not thrilled to see him back, but I don't see how one adds punishment after the fact.
Kevin, You're on crack if you think even for a moment that Margarito deserves his license again. He should never box professionally again.
A lot of people feel the way you do, Jason (not that I'm on crack; that Margarito should never be licensed). But if he had been convicted of a robbery and was given a five-year sentence, should he have been given another two years after he'd served his five because we didn't like what he did?
Looking past Clottey
In football, there is what is called a "trap" game, wherein the favored team relaxes and doesn't focus on the next opponent and ends up losing to an inferior team. Do you think that Pacquiao's match with Clottey might end up a "trap" game for him? I am pretty sure this boxing match is several levels lower in terms of importance/significance compared to a match with Mayweather. What is your opinion?
I don't think Manny is the type to look past anyone, but if he does, he'll have problems with Clottey. Clottey is the biggest, strongest man he's faced. That said, Pacquiao is far superior in all respects and I expect him to win a decision.