Pistons Team Report

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GETTING INSIDE

Richard Hamilton(notes), Tayshaun Prince(notes) and Ben Gordon(notes) have returned to action after lengthy absences but that hasn’t solved all of the Pistons’ problems.

The Pistons carry a season-high eight-game losing streak into their home game against Chicago Thursday afternoon. Their top wing players are still rusty after missing a combined 63 games. They combined for 39 points on 14-for-43 shooting when they returned against Toronto Sunday and scored a collective 35 points on 12-for-34 shooting against New York Tuesday.

“It’s not something we expect to happen overnight, especially with me and Tayshaun being out as many games as we have, and (Gordon) being out as many games as he’s been out,” said Hamilton, who missed 13 of his first 14 attempts against the Knicks.

Their offense will eventually come around but the Pistons’ defensive slippage has been troubling. They have allowed opponents to shoot at least 49 percent in all but one of the losses during the current slide.

“We have a lot of basketball left but we have to take advantage of all these opportunities,” head coach John Kuester said. “(Just) getting people back does not put you in a position to win. What does is your effort, your energy and your understanding of the game plan.”

Kuester is disappointed that the rest of his team has not been rejuvenated by the addition of three key performers.

“They’re going to have moments where they have to feel their way through this,” Kuester said of Hamilton, Prince and Gordon. “That’s why everybody else has to pick it up. We can’t just rely on saying, ‘these three guys came back, so now we’re ready to make our run.’ We have to understand teams are going to come in hungry and we have to be more aggressive and more hungry than they are.”

Knicks 104, Pistons 87:   Rodney Stuckey(notes) scored the first basket of the game and the Pistons never had another lead while losing their eighth straight Tuesday. Knicks center David Lee(notes) scored a season-high 30 points while the Pistons were held to 41.8 percent shooting. They were also out-rebounded by the team ranked No. 28 in that category league-wide, 44-33.

NOTES, QUOTES

• Rookie Jonas Jerebko(notes) started 26 games at small forward with Tayshaun Prince sidelined by a back injury. Prince returned to the lineup this week but instead of putting Jerebko on the bench, head coach John Kuester made Jerebko his starting power forward.

“It’s an adjustment but not a really big one,” said Jerebko, a second-round pick who played in Italy last season. “I can try to stretch the defense and run the floor. There’s bigger guys playing defense on me, so I could probably take advantage of it.”

The 6-foot-10 Jerebko doesn’t get plays called for him but offensive rebounding and hustle plays have helped him reach double-digits in 11 of the last 16 games. He also showed defensive tenacity against the likes of Kobe Bryant(notes), LeBron James(notes) and Carmelo Anthony(notes) and now must show he can guard the post and rebound well enough to keep his starting spot. Jerebko had just four rebounds against New York.

“He can play both positions,” Kuester said. “I was so impressed how he defended the threes (small forwards) that he had to guard day in and day out. Now, he has to guard fours and I want to see what he does rebounding-wise. Jonas has risen to the occasion pretty much every time he’s stepped on the floor.”

• With the Pistons’ backcourt fortified by the return of Richard Hamilton and Ben Gordon, Will Bynum(notes) had the luxury of resting his sore ankles against New York. He has been bothered by sprains to both ankles for weeks but kept playing because the Pistons were already shorthanded.

The 6-foot Bynum is averaging 12.1 points and 4.3 assists.

“He’s been complaining for a while. Obviously, he feels he needs time to get this thing right,” Kuester said. “He wants to get that explosion back but more importantly for us, we need his ability to change the complexion of the game defensively. He’s able to get up and pressure people.”

Quote To Note:   “I’m not sure what we were thinking, because in the NBA, you have to be aggressive in all phases.”—Head coach John Kuester, after his team was blown out at home by New York Tuesday.

ROSTER REPORT

Rotation:   Starters—Point guard Rodney Stuckey, Shooting guard Richard Hamilton, Small forward Tayshaun Prince, Power forward Jonas Jerebko, Center Ben Wallace(notes). Bench—Guard Ben Gordon, Guard Chucky Atkins(notes), Forward Charlie Villanueva(notes), Center Chris Wilcox(notes).

Player Notes:  

• G Chucky Atkins did not play against Toronto Sunday but served as the backup point guard against New York Tuesday with Will Bynum sidelined. Atkins had seven points in 11 minutes. Atkins will fall out of the rotation once again when the Pistons are at full strength.

• F Charlie Villanueva was scoreless in 12 minutes Tuesday. He’s not only battling plantar fasciitis in his right foot, he is recovering from a viral infection. Villanueva is averaging just four points in the last five games.

• C Chris Wilcox has taken over the backup center role behind Ben Wallace. He’s averaging nearly 16 minutes in the last six appearances. Wilcox gives the Pistons a better offensive threat than Kwame Brown(notes), who had been Wallace’s main backup.

Medical Watch:  

• G Will Bynum (ankle sprains) is doubtful for Thursday’s game against Chicago.

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  1. JT
    167. Posted by JT Wed Dec 23 9:41pm EST

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    Kwame Brown should be starting and playing as much as he can. Big Ben is good for 20-25 minutes and can play along side Kwame at times. Pistons are just dumb.
  2. captain b
    166. Posted by captain b Wed Dec 23 3:20pm EST

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    Could someone please tell me why Jason Maxiel is playing? We have 6'11 Kwame Brown and 6'10 Chris Wilcox on the bench, and 6'6 Maxiel is guarding centers and power forwards. wtf?
  3. Zack
    165. Posted by Zack Tue Dec 22 1:05am EST

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    2words,lebron
  4. Paul
    164. Posted by Paul Sat Dec 19 12:46am EST

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    Has anyone heard anything as far as Ben Gordon's return?? I've read that he is day-to-day for about three weeks now. Has this guy started practicing or running or anything?? Inquiring fantasy minds need to know.
  5. Dad Zach
    163. Posted by Dad Zach Fri Dec 18 9:26pm EST

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    I am beginning to think there are some real wusses on this team. I have never seen people out so long for these type of injuries. They sure are not exhibiting any kind of toughness. Hamilton and Gordon particularly irk me. They seem to want to feel perfect before playing. They should learn the difference between injured and hurt. You can play hurt. Prince I will give a pass since he never got hurt before but damn it looks like they just want to be paid to sit on the bench in their street clothes.
  6. Paul
    162. Posted by Paul Fri Dec 18 1:33pm EST

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    Question: How do we find enough balls to play three shooting guards at once? Ben, Rip and Rodney are all #2s.....Seems like somebody has to go....

    Kaman would look nice in that Pistons jersey....

    We could be title contenders in 2012 with the right drafting and free agency work.....
  7. cap'n dick
    161. Posted by cap'n dick Thu Dec 17 11:46pm EST

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    hey 140, ummmm i hate to break this to you but bosh is one word.
  8. mak
    160. Posted by mak Fri Dec 11 8:12am EST

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    Whow

    Just watched short-handed Pistons beat Denver last night !
    Stuckey needs to stay at SG, and therefore we have three good SG, and one needs to be traded for a PG, if possible. Atkins/Bynum doing a good job, but for how long?
  9. Paul
    159. Posted by Paul Sun Dec 6 7:31pm EST

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    Let's be clear here: I am not trying to trade Stuckey for Amare--that was another guy. And I wouldn't if the offer were made, which it won't.

    Stuckey is going to be great--but not as a point. We ned more speed and athelticism there and that is one reason why Bynum, a career back-up and guy who has been around, stuck with Detroit.

    Rip is a good player, just below the level of great player....but it is time to move him, get younger and more athletic (there is that word again) and trim salary so that other moves can be made.

    So, that is my point. This team is not complete--lots of parts still to be tinkered and such.....
  10. Sfenton
    158. Posted by Sfenton Sat Dec 5 5:25pm EST

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    I dont agree with what you are saying paul. First of all no one would trade Amare for Stuckey bc there is not point for the suns to lose a big man in that run and gun. PLus Nash still has a few years left in him. Stuckey is not a true pg, but I think that overtime he is going to develop that leadership goal and is going to start showing signs of being the guy they traded Chuncey away for. Biggest mistake ever trading Billups, but Stuckey has upside. You can look at some of his recent game logs with these guys injured that hes started to pass the ball better as well. The only reason it seems that Stuckey is being sellfish is because you have all these guys on the team injured. When Detroit is fully healthy i think they will all mesh very well. Stuckeys scoring average will drop to around 15 to 14 points but should find ways to become a better point guard. We will see consistency from rip and tayshaun in the starting line up, and Villenueva's inside outside presence is nice to have. Its also kind of a blessing in some ways that these guys have been injured because its given the role players a chance to really play alot of minutes so they are prepared coming in off the bench.
  11. <i>travdust</i>
    157. Posted by travdust Fri Dec 4 12:42pm EST

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    I disagree with you paul. I think we need to keep Rip; he can help run this offense when healthy (has little trade value anyway because of health and age). I say let the Vets we have now: Wallace, Tay and Rip retire as Pistons....Unless a great trade comes--unlikely.

    But i do agree that stuckey is no point guard, that was one reason i wish they never signed Ben Gordon, could have had stuck backup Rip. However, since they do have Ben Gordon i think they should try to trade Stuckey for Amare Stoudemire--Along with Kwame and other contracts to make it work.

    Start Big ben, Amare, Tay, Rip, Bynum. Put Charlie on the bench- where he can provide instant offense with Gorden....And if The suns want Charlie V in the trade, i'd say give him to them. Much rather have Amare. But i would try and offer Stuckey, Brown, Maxiel and maybe Wilcox if that would make the contracts work, i don't know, but I'm sure it could be done.
  12. Paul
    156. Posted by Paul Mon Nov 30 7:11pm EST

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    OK, quick assessment:

    The rookies are better prepared to play than I anticipated. And, they are getting minutes due to injuries to Rip, Tay and Ben. This is a good thing. I like Jerebko a lot. Daye looks like with a few pounds and some time he could be a very valuable player.

    Wallace...biggest surprise on the team, so far. But can he keep it up? Without help, he cannot.

    Brown? What can you say? He will make three plays that say, "I have it figured out." and then two weeks of "where am I?"

    Time to play Maxey more and see what we have there. He was lost last year, sick to his stomach--allergic to Curry.

    This team will not play .500 and I do not see playoffs in the spring of 2010--but I figure that is OK. I'd rather play the kids and see what you have than press the oldsters just to get wiped in the first round in a sweep. Next year we should have a serious team, ready to get into the middle of the playoff race and maybe even a second round advance.

    My immediate concerns are these:

    1. Not enough sharing. Look at the assists...You cannot win if Ben Gordon leads the team in assists...

    2. What to do with Stuckey. He is not a point. And we have three twos.....

    3. Defence in the paint. Wallace needs help.

    4. Stuckey again....I am getting a whiff of selfishness in his shot selection....stamp that out immediately.

    5. The TRADE. Rip has to go. I love the guy, but he has been made redundant. So who do we get for him (plus the obligatory #1 pick)?

    The Atlanta game was the most fun to watch this season. I hope the team knows that.

    My couple of pennies of thought....
  13. Steve
    155. Posted by Steve Tue Nov 24 11:01pm EST

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    This team needs a big make over. Ben Gordon and Charlie are not the answer. Joe D. messed up big time signing both of them to major contracts. At best they would have been great coming off the the bench. Thats what Ben G. likes to do anyway, its always worked for him. We needed to save money this year and spend a lot of money during the summer during the hot hot free agency begining. I don't know if we can even sign any top player thats going to be available. Trades will have to come or the pistons are gonna be bad for a while. Rip and tay have to go when they get healthy, for this team to succeed for years to come. Joe D. do the right thing free up some cap space for this blockbuster summer approaching...
  14. Joyce
    154. Posted by Joyce Sat Nov 21 12:48am EST

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    The Pistons are a very good team that needs to get team chemistry with other to succeed. Too much one on one and not enough setups. Will Bynum can take anybody to the whole, but soon they will be collasping on him because he has dunk over them and made them look bad. Rodney Stuckey will be together by the end of the year. I believe that when Rip and Tay come back we have to wait and see what happens. I love them both. Tay has been worn out by guarding the best players, but now he has some help. Bynum needs to get paid and given an extension before he gets away and really that would be a bust for the pistons. Sign Rodney to get an extension also. They are the young bucks we need on the team. If we let Will get away joe D will be a fool, and it will cost him. Maybe his job. We need a real good center and back up at center that can catch the ball and rebound. Tay has been hurt that is why he wasn't playing 100%. But he hung in there and played anyway to try and help the team until he just couldn't go anymore. He will be ok once he gets healthy. Rip too. I know that Will Bynum could be a starter but he fits well here in Detroit as his role increases, but you have to pay the man or he will be gone. If any one is reading this in management you better pay attention to what's being said about Will the man. He is not erogant AND HE DOES pass the ball. We will improve soon with out leading scorer and our defensive player comes back. And by the way, don't give up on Auston Daye he's young like Amir and you gave him a chance. I think he will be good soon.
  15. captain b
    153. Posted by captain b Mon Nov 16 7:50am EST

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    It's becoming increasingly clear that either Rip or Tay must be traded when they're healthy. Cutting Bynum's minutes would be foolish and unfair to the team. Tay should be the one to go, as this team is now built upon speed and aggression, two things he sorely lacks. Rip would have to play mostly at the 3 spot with Jerebko and Daye helping out. Come on Joe, do the right thing.
  16. Mike M
    152. Posted by Mike M Fri Nov 6 1:51pm EST

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    OK, my take after five- Stuckey Team Leader? No. Let Gordon develop for a year and sign him up as TL. Jerebco? I bet his parents get a lot of sympathy calls that their son forsook hockey for BB! Wallace? I think he has a couple, maybe three years of juice left in the tank and he can teach Maxie, Jerebco, Charlie Vanilla, maybe even Kwame what it takes to be a center in the NBA. Laimbeer? If he does the job in Minny Ha Ha we might see him back with the Pistons one day. Hamilton? Seen better days but could carry some trade value. Prince? He is not done playing for now, and when he is, he is a future coach. The full package? If they can fast trak their internal team coordination they will surprise several people this year and likely make the playoffs. Joe D. has taken many gambles over his tenure. Some have worked well, others have not. If he could be right all the time then he would walk on water, right? Charlie Vanilla is a cool cat, I hope he smiles a litle more often, He needs an infection of confidence and to then become our new Sheed.
  17. <i>travdust</i>
    151. Posted by travdust Wed Nov 4 11:17am EST

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    Some not smart coaches? I see only one dumb coach, Curry. Flip, brown and carlisle were very smart coaches......HELLO! wake up young gun!
  18. ken
    150. Posted by ken Thu Oct 29 11:16am EDT

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    Joe, has hired some not smart coaches,but lets wait and see whether thi coach can develop the
    young players... and see who will come up big,if any body.. then we will know whether the pistons
    are going in the right direaction.fire Joe? not right now
  19. Daniel P
    149. Posted by Daniel P Thu Oct 29 7:04am EDT

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    I think the Pistons can COMPETE this year...not win it all, but with a little luck, compete. Ben Wallace is back, and if you saw him play the Grizz tonight, you know he looks healthy. He still doesn't score, but he is a presence in the middle, grabbed 9 boards and took 2 charges. As long as we run screens for Rip, he can sink shots. Ben Gordon coming off the bench is instant offense. Stucky is still learning, but he can create his own shot when he needs to. We have to play solid defense all year because we don't have the size or the athletes of most other teams. We WILL make the playoffs this year...even if it's the 7th or 8th seed, and you want to fire Joe D? Ummm...spoiled much? The Clippers haven't smelled the playoffs in YEARS. Joe D "should have drafted Carmelo instead of Darko" except you people forget that Carmelo had only 1 year of college experience while Darko had been a Pro in Europe for 2, not to mention the fact that Tayshaun had just gone off in the playoffs the year before...there was no way he was going back to the bench. Looking back is easy when you're sitting on your couch with a bag of chips, but AT THE TIME, the call made sense as Darko was projected to develop into a Dirk Nowitzki type of player. Joe D. has taken the Pistons to the finals TWICE and we haven't missed the playoffs IN YEARS! What more do you people want?...You ARE AWARE that NOBODY WINS FOREVER, right? (not counting the Bulls)...The Pistons are a damn successful team and the fact that some of you people don't seem to realize that is scary.
  20. AntonioL
    148. Posted by AntonioL Sat Oct 3 4:10pm EDT

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    cannot wait for season to start. Its all about do or die. Joe it is in your hands.Do not screw this up!
  21. Dad Zach
    147. Posted by Dad Zach Fri Sep 18 10:25am EDT

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    To the gentleman who said Hamilton can score at will. I guess he hasn't wanted to for the last several years. I can count on one hand how many big shots he has hit in the last several years. He is a decent spot up shooter when coming off screens. He thinks he can handle the ball but not really. He is not a good defender, reaches way too much then when gets caught, loses his composure. I think he is an above average shooting guard but nothing more.
  22. Chronzetti
    146. Posted by Chronzetti Mon Sep 14 2:56pm EDT

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    Pistons made good moves. I love Charlie Villanueva. He is a younger version of Rasheed Wallace, can shoot out to the 3 point line and is a decent rebounder. He is very underrated as a defender because no one saw him play for the Bucks. I love Ben Gordon. He is a better scoring, less passing version of Chauncey Billups, and he absolutely lit it up in the playoffs for the Bulls last season. I like the draft pick Austin Daye, a Tayshaun-like 3 who will learn from Prince. I like the Ben Wallace signing and Wilcox as well, guys who are real bangers and like to mix it up inside. Kwame Brown's hands are never going to be any larger than what they are now, so he will never be effective in the NBA. They need to bring in one more big to take his minutes, or maybe one of the young players like Maxiell or one of these second round rookies can step up and take the playing time. It's time for Maxiell to sh%t or get off the proverbial pot. As for Gordon, Rip, and Stuckey...well that is a potential lethal mix both for and against the Pistons. If all three can come to some sort of agreement on a pecking order, they could be as lethal a threesome as Isaiah, Joe , and Vinnie Johnson. If they start ball hogging and complaining (as Rip kinda did a little bit last year with Iverson) they will be a deadly poison that will destroy the team and torpedo first year head coach whatever the hell his name is (I just know it is not Bill Laimbeer) before he even gets started. If nothing else it will be an entertaining ride this season.
  23. Paul
    145. Posted by Paul Sat Sep 5 11:14pm EDT

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    Well, good things are coming in Detroit. I am concerned that the team is thin (physically and numerically) up front. If we get 10 to 15 good minutes per night from Ben Wallace, it will be good. But we have Brown looking to start at center. Not a recipe for success.

    I think one more deal might get done....only 14 signed at this point, so there is room to make a change or two.

    At the guard spots...well, we have issues trying to find enough balls and minutes for Hamilton, Gordon and Stuckey. And defense will suffer at those spots.

    Still no back-up at the 3. Prince cannot continue to log those heavy minutes.

    But all that said, they got younger, more athletic and have an upside. If Coach plays the rooks enough to bring them along, we may have a much more dangerous team at playoff time than we will in November.

    Go Pistons!
  24. DARLENE M
    144. Posted by DARLENE M Wed Aug 26 9:20am EDT

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    Totally correct the fate that we now experience rests in the lap of JD as painful as it may be to except its real with the tide turning way back in 03 with the 2nd selection things began to dissinegrate yet he remains to finish it off so lets see the masterplan unfold a piece here a piece there and who knows what could happen that guy who had lunch with him should have provided a devil's advocate with that whole Greg Oden thing he had a good defensive season at Ohio and because he is seven feet tall he's the next Bill Russell well the verdict is still out on that one and how cheap can he be to give up the last of your Veteran Championship core that I would roll over in my mind a few more times before committing. I know JD KiKi V. played you its ok it happens to the best of us now its the redemption game 6 1/2 years later better late than never your 2 years away. Play this year out and weigh your options and make good decisions the answer is out there and it isn't and wasn't AI good luck with what ever your desision is your future may very well depend on it.
  25. Aaron G
    143. Posted by Aaron G Wed Aug 26 12:59am EDT

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    Is Charlie V really gonna be playing alot of Center?
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