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Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:00 pm EDT

What's next for the Lakers


Might as well come out and say it.

Say what?

The Lakers have the look of a three-time champion.

Great. Slurp away.

They do, actually. I know that LeBron James(notes) is coming into his own and that the Nuggets are in their prime and that the East has all sorts of fitful contenders ready to step up (no Nets or 76er-like foils this time around for Los Angeles), but the Los Angeles' mix of potential on offense and defense has me thinking they can do this again in 2010, and 2011.

I'd go further, honestly, but I wouldn't mind keeping some credibility.

Here's the deal, though. Kobe Bryant(notes) can't give in to his all-on-me instincts, Phil Jackson has to remain the coach, Andrew Bynum(notes) and Jordan Farmar(notes) have to keep improving at the rate the 2007-08 season suggested, and the team needs to pay the luxury tax.

Pay it again. Pay it for Lamar Odom(notes), and Trevor Ariza(notes). This isn't an either/or proposition. You have to bring them both back.

Though we've spent a while on the Lakers' look, it will be much simpler than Orlando's turn. It comes down to retaining both Odom and Ariza, two players who are appropriately valued by the media, and by other teams. The Lakers paid the tax last year, they have a few expiring contracts (Adam Morrison(notes), Derek Fisher(notes); as if they'd trade the latter) for 2009-10 that could be packaged for an upgrade at point guard, but by and large any chance at sustaining the championship run will have to take its cue from internal development.

Odom might have to play the martyr here. Though his skill set leaves us drooling, even your parents know that he'll turn 30 in November, and that he's best suited for a team like the Lakers. His leverage isn't great.

That said, the Lakers need him, badly. Odom made Derek Fisher's awful defense in the Western Conference playoffs passable when, with Shannon Brown(notes) on the court for defense and defense only, he ran an offense that Brown hasn't been able to grasp yet. He'll, he runs it with Fisher out there.

Yes, Luke Walton(notes) can do a lot of the same things. Run the offense off the bench. Rebound and start the break. Make the pass that leads to the pass that gets credited as the assist. Occasionally post up or hit three-pointers. Luke can do it all, and cheaper. Love Luke. Love Lamar, more. He's just better.

And all Ariza does is play lockdown defense, create turnovers, and hit three-pointers at an ever-improving rate. He's not much for driving, or the in-between game, as the Magic exposed during the Finals. But while you might not recall him missing a series of pull-up jumpers during the championship round, you surely recall Ariza hitting three-pointer after three-pointer after three-pointer.

And you have to bring him back. Have to. He may only play D and hit threes, but you need that. On both ends. Up to seven, maybe eight million. Beat the offer, bring him back.

You know why, Buss family? Because you're going to be playing into June. Deep into June, every year. And you're going to make that money back. And this team, as presently constructed, is special. Three-peat, special. Maybe more.

I'm not giddy. I'm not a Laker fan. I didn't get too much (or, any) sun while in Los Angeles last week. I just know greatness when I see it. And even with Kobe and Lamar in their 30s, lots of tread on Kobe's rubber, and the ever-present potential for falloff, selfish play, lackadaisical play, ennui, earthquake, whatever ... this is a special, special team.

And you keep special teams together. At any price. And especially when players like Ariza and Odom want to stay in town, and like the arrangement Phil Jackson has created. They're both lanky forwards, they're completely different, and they both work. On both ends. The Lakers could be top three in offensive and defensive efficiency next year. That would mean 70 wins, or so.

To get there, you have to bring them both back, and pay the luxury tax again.

And then you have to sit back, and wait for June to roll around again. I don't toss this stuff out there, lightly. It's not my money, but June is pretty special to me, and to us all. And I want to see Ariza and Odom there, every June, trading fours.

Make it happen, Dr. Buss.

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  1. khandor
    1. Posted by khandor Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:20 pm EDT

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    A supposed lack of credibility never hurts those like YOU & ME, KD.
    Your observations here are right on the money!
  2. khandor
    2. Posted by khandor Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:24 pm EDT

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    KD,
    re: "I just know greatness when I see it."
    I've been counting on THAT for a while now ... but, so far, you've let me down. :-)
    Still ... there ain't no quit in this here Top Dog.
  3. Wiley E
    3. Posted by Wiley E Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:26 pm EDT

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    you are right on with keeping the laker bunch together, one missing poece, point guard.
  4. khandor
    4. Posted by khandor Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:29 pm EDT

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    ... and, then, once you bring them all back ... and they win again ... what you'll have to do THEN is wait patiently for Andrew Bynum to develop into one of the very best Centers in the NBA, between 27-35 years of age ... as Kobe slips into his easy-boy reclining chair and the LakeShow continues to run as it once did around a young man named Kareem.
    If the Lakers follow YOUR [and MY] advice, it is going to be a long and fruitful run for the Boyz From Tinseltown.
    Keep On Truck'n :-)
  5. gottagotowork3
    5. Posted by gottagotowork3 Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:30 pm EDT

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    If the Lakers could keep'em all, folks we have a "DYNASTY".
  6. SCSF- LA where repeats and 3-peats happen!
    6. Posted by SCSF- LA where repeats and 3-peats happen! Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:39 pm EDT

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    Kobe changing his number to 35 KB35 3xMVP 5xChamp
  7. Gassy Garry
    7. Posted by Gassy Garry Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:45 pm EDT

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    KD,Icouldn't agree with you more. Last season the Lakers were in the finals & the lack of experience was their demise. This year was the Western Conference Playoffs were, in my opinion more difficult & they were able to prevail. I also think that they should be able to repeat as Champs as long as everyone stays healthy as well as Bynum & Gasol getting to play a complete season together.
  8. Suzan
    8. Posted by Suzan Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:21 pm EDT

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    I totally think that the lakers are a special bunch of guys and I knew it all along that this year was their year if they stick together hell ya they can win more
  9. Anton
    9. Posted by Anton Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:27 pm EDT

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    Anything is possible. As long they keep Ariza and Odom. Drop Sasha to sign both. Doesn't mean it is a sure thing though. I expect the Lakers to be in the finals the next two years as the Spurs are rebuilding, Dallas is dead in the water, Nuggets' coaching is bad, Jazz...road victory anyone?, Houston...more injuries please. Boston can be the biggest challenge for one more year or so until Lebron moves wherever unless they get Shaq! lol.
  10. give_and_go
    10. Posted by give_and_go Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:30 pm EDT

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    Smoking crack.
    I'm a Lakers fan, and I love Kobe's game, but even I know that Kobe has 1 or 2 very good years ahead of him at most. He isn't as explosive as he used to be, and can't jump nearly as high as he did even 2 years ago. All of those long seasons of having to carry an untalented Lakers squad, and getting beaten and double/triple teamed, and having to play through injuries, has taken a toll on him. Yes, this year he was still the best player in the NBA. But it was because of his hunger and high basketball IQ. His age and wear and tear are taking a toll. Two guards who play in this style don't last much more than what Kobe has given. His body is beat. Look at this:
    Player - Years in NBA - Career Games - Career Minutes - PPG 1st 13 seasons - PPG after 13th season
    Dr. J (including ABA) - 16 seasons - 1243 games- 45,227 minutes- 25.3 PPG - 18.4 PPG
    Michael Jordan - 15 seasons - 1072 games - 41,010 minutes - 28.4 PPG - 21.2 PPG
    Clyde Drexler - 15 seasons - 1086 games - 37,537 minutes - 23.1 PPG - 18.1 PPG
    Kobe Bryant - 13 seasons - 948 games - 34,531 minutes - 25.1 PPG - ???
    Lakers have a window of opportunity of 1 or 2 years MAX. And I'm being generous. Once Kobe is no longer Kobe, these complimentary players just won't get it done.
  11. r t
    11. Posted by r t Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    you lost your credibility a long time ago, but as far as this article goes, you lost it in the headline.
    The NBA is too much of a crapshoot to win 3 in a row unless the team is great, and the lakers are not great (or they would have won it last year too). they were better than everyone else this year, but they are far from a great team.
    if you would take the time to get off your knees from in front of kobe, you'd see that the lakers had to pull out everything in order to get through the playoffs this year (fisher's body check, kobe's repeated elbows that are somehow never called, etc), and that was against some pretty weak competition. The nuggets were okay b/c of chauncy, but that team is going to be a financial disaster and the rockets were an injury mess. The lakers beat the teams they played, so props for that, but each of their series could have, maybe should have, gone the other way.
    When the lakers will need to get through a gauntlet of good teams just to get to the finals: rockets, spurs, mavs, hornets, jazz, and even the clippers might be good (if they get rid of z-bo). probably the most dangerous team would be the Blazers (typical omission from the writers/posters, afraid to acknowledge that the blazers are going to be the top competition in the NBA for the next 5 years). it is pretty clear to any non-laker homer that actually knows anything about basketball and the NBA, that the Lakers won't be able to 3-peat, and i would doubt they can repeat. with the rapid changes in today's NBA, anyone can be awful one year and really good the next (ie boston). I hate the blatant pandering to Laker fans, and i can only continue to hope that yahoo will get some better, more knowledgeable writers involved.
  12. gaborik10m
    12. Posted by gaborik10m Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    Honestly? The look like a 3 time champ? Weren't the Magic within mere points/FT makes of going up 3-1? And the Magic weren't even the best team out of the east! Didn't Denver sort of choke it's way out of winning the west, too?
  13. Mike K
    13. Posted by Mike K Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    "Luke can do it all" - you just lost your cred. sorry.
  14. esco
    14. Posted by esco Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    HATERS...LMFAO ya sure blazers I know I hear about them all the time...... First of all KOBE played in the Olympics as well do not forget plus all star games. He has not received a chance to rest. Just because your teams and your players have had more rest time do to early departure....then that’s why there rested. This isn’t about what could have happened or what if.....well what if the Lakers were truly rested? What if Kobe got his surgery? What if Bynum didn’t get hurt? What if some of the Laker players besides Kobe played consistent? LAKERS won and they'll get some much needed rest with a trophy and come back stronger next year.
    ......
    If there were articles on the other NBA teams it would be a what if article.
  15. Anton
    15. Posted by Anton Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:56 pm EDT

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    Esco - that did not make sense at all. LOL. post #12 and others meant that OVERALL the game takes a lot out of you as the years go on especially at the rate that Kobe is going and has to play. There are not enough consistency with the Lakers for Kobe to rely on them and Kobe at times STILL LACKS trust in teammates. Being well-rested was not even the point as that makes no sense at all. Kobe played a LOT of minutes in these playoffs despite the supposed talent he has in his team.
    And why are you going on about "what if"? Everybody talking about the future. And whether or not it is possible for the Lakers to repeat 3 or 4 times. Anything is possible.
  16. mee
    16. Posted by mee Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:38 pm EDT

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    champion with an asterick*
    whatever team you root for homeboyy obviously doesnt even compare to this Laker team.
    enough with the excuses everyone
    U GUYS KNOW THE LAKERS ROCK and it kills you inside
    and let me say this, THEY WILL BE SCARY GOOD NEXT YEAR. ILL BE SAYING I TOLD YOU SO.
  17. Brendan
    17. Posted by Brendan Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    Man, I'll defend Kobe's level any day of the week but there's no way he'll average 24 ppg until he's 37, man. Maybe, just maybe, he could average something like 26 up until 34 but Kareem's scoring record is pretty untouchable. That's a "big men only" record there. SGs can't go for record like that.
  18. intelligent poster
    18. Posted by intelligent poster Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:49 pm EDT

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    there's a different spin here that i'd like to suggest. it's called "revsionist history". how would kobe's game have evolved if the lakers had kept eddie jones and not traded him for glen rice? would he have just been kobe and not KOBE or BLACK MAMBA or KB-24 or whatever?
    probably not. he needed eddie to be gone, kinda like we needed the asteroid to hit the earth 65 million yrs ago so that we could scurry out from under the shadows of the dinosaurs.
    we've given all this money to andrew...he needs to evolve into the role with lamar's "extinction"
  19. matt
    19. Posted by matt Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    I wiped my ass with a laker flag yesterday , and i burned a kobe bryant jersey in my back yard , i feel better now.
  20. M J
    20. Posted by M J Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    I say you put FARMAR, THE MACHINE, and WALTON on the trading block to get a better than decent player. Resign Odom and Ariza. Possibly use the money if it's still good under the luxury tax to get a caliber player like CHRIS BOSH. with all that done, the team could make use of players such as MORRISON and YUE!! imagine their skills with KOBE MVP!
    next year's starting line up!
    PG BROWN
    SG YUE
    SF BRYANT
    PF GASOL
    C BYNUM
    Bench:
    FISHER
    MORRISON
    ODOM
    ARIZA
    BENGA
    Player to be named from the WALTON, FARMAR, VUJACIC trade
    CHRIS BOSH?
    Repeat! Here we come!!
  21. Blake Y
    21. Posted by Blake Y Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    MJ got most of his rings post 30, how can Kobe be too old?
    While scoring averages have gone down for those players you listed, I don't think age is the only contibuting factor to that decline. Perhaps a maturing bastketball IQ has taught Kobe to play more efficiently through his teammates to grind out an entire season saving some wear and tear for the playoffs.
  22. mack s
    22. Posted by mack s Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:05 pm EDT

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    Im tired of doubting kobe .you cant teach desire and passion Best player all around since MJ#23.A lot of people say his is trying to be like Mike well whats wrong with being like the best player you ever saw magic,doc,bird,mj nice players to embulate.Congrads Kobe
  23. James S
    23. Posted by James S Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:08 pm EDT

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    Beat the Celtics with a healthy squad, then lets ChAT.
  24. Robert S
    24. Posted by Robert S Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:09 pm EDT

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    Walter E... stop smokin crack. Kobe won't break the record and he won't have as many rings as MJ. He will never be as good as MJ. He isn't even top ten. You seem to be forgetting MJ, Russell, Wilt, Kareem, West, Robertson, Bird, Magic, Olajuwon, Havlicek and a few others who Kobe doesn't stack up to.
  25. James S
    25. Posted by James S Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:10 pm EDT

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    I would add a point guard and put fish on thebench, add a slashing foward that goes to the rim..

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