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As you'd expect, Shawn Marion(notes) was the hardest piece to place in this offseason's confusing and sometimes wearying puzzle.

It befits Marion. He's an odd player. In NBA terms, he's an odd person.

We have no doubt that, like every free agent out there, he wanted to go where the money is best. But the money was great in Phoenix, and Marion had issues not being the center of attention. I'm not going to tell you that he preferred life with two lottery teams in Miami and Toronto following his trade from Phoenix, but you never heard rumors of him griping, despite the losing, despite constant trade rumors that dogged him in both cities.

The Mavericks landed Marion with a five-year, $40 million contract by working a complicated sign-and-trade that, among other things, sent Devean George(notes) and Antoine Wright(notes) to Toronto, Jerry Stackhouse(notes) to Memphis and Kris Humphries(notes) to Dallas.

Toronto's summer ... it's been questionable. Signing Hedo Turkoglu(notes) to a giant deal that will pay him until he's in his mid-30s seems a poor choice in light of all the players who are in their early-to-mid 20s on Toronto's roster. Those players will be in their prime when Turkoglu is at the end of the bench, barely playing, making eight figures.

I question Dallas, too. This team obviously fancies itself a tinker or two away from rejoining the elite of their conference, two years removed from posting the NBA's best record. With all this money tossed around, will it make a difference?

It should. Bringing in Marcin Gortat(notes), an above-average player who will only get better, is a sweet deal for an average salary. Retaining Jason Kidd(notes) is fine, though he'll be slightly overpaid in the last two years of his three-year, $25 million dollar deal. And Marion can really help this squad.

But is that enough to challenge the Lakers, Nuggets or Spurs?

I think so. Dallas is positioning itself to be in the "they're right there" category. It worked for Orlando last season, who parlayed a Kevin Garnett(notes) injury and a matchup advantage with Cleveland into a Finals trip. Who knows, had Jameer Nelson(notes) been at full strength, the Magic (who beat the Lakers twice in the regular season, with Nelson dominating each contest) may have won a title.

Hell, it worked with Dallas in 2006. Just get to the playoffs, and see what happens.

The problem with the Magic comparison is that Orlando also won heaps of games during the regular season. They established themselves as an elite team by the time Nelson went down with a shoulder injury last February. Would Dallas' core be enough to nearly match the Lakers and Spurs in wins from November on out?

Everything would have to go right. And sometimes, everything goes right.

And the quibble with that is the idea that everything seemed to go right last year, in parts.

Dirk Nowitzki(notes) had a giant year at age 30. Kidd shot the basketball like he's never shot it before, even pulling off a 45 percent mark from long range during the playoffs. Rick Carlisle turned in a fantastic coaching job. Jason Terry(notes) was the Sixth Man of the Year.

Yes, Josh Howard(notes) missed 30 games, but that was about it. If they tell you they missed Stackhouse, too, they're lying. Nobody should have expected Stack to be much of anything with his injury woes.

Expecting a trio of players who are past their primes to have two consecutive turn-back-the-clock seasons? That's tough. That really doesn't happen. And it would have to happen for the team to vault closer to 60 wins.

Dallas' biggest hole? It tossed out the sorriest batch of shooting guards among the 50-win teams. This summer, they've signed Quinton Ross(notes). Starting Marion and shoving Josh Howard down to the backcourt (he has played slim minutes there, effectively; especially defensively) would seem to help, but would Howard (a year older, like the rest) be able to chase anyone around on those gimpy ankles?

You'd think Dallas is aware of this. I can't help but trust the Mavs, even if they still think Kidd is an all-world guy, even if they're essentially replacing Brandon Bass(notes) (who, per-minute, might be just as effective as Marion at this point scoring and rebounding) with a bigger name in Marion.

Because of the team's trade bait. Erick Dampier(notes) has a massive unguaranteed contract for 2010-11. What's to stop the cash-starved Milwaukee Bucks from trading Michael Redd(notes) to Dallas next February for Damp's deal? Redd already flirted with signing with the Mavericks in 2002, why not ask him to take over the off-guard slot? The same idea could also work with Howard, who has a team option for 2010-11.

Until then, even for such a thin team, the depth is there. Dirk might be best in the pivot now, Marion might be best at power forward. You can switch these guys around, up and down, and really spread the floor. If Kidd can come close to last season's shooting exploits, he'll be fine, and Terry has been pulling off this shooting touch for years. I'd be surprised if he falls off.

Big name, big contract, added to a team that is high on star power but low on depth, well short of the Lakers. I should hate it, but I dig the move for Dallas.

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  1. QuAzY
    1. Posted by QuAzY Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:02 pm EDT

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    1st!!! Nothing ...Lakers will win it all next year !!!
  2. QuAzY
    2. Posted by QuAzY Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:02 pm EDT

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    1st!!! Nothing ...Lakers will win it all next year !!!
  3. Cocktor W
    3. Posted by Cocktor W Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:13 pm EDT

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    Lakers fans really are the most arrogant people out there. anyway, i hope that this trade goes through. i really believe this would make dallas a contender again.
  4. Aki
    4. Posted by Aki Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:18 pm EDT

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    yup! you can say that again. all those lakers fans are spamming blogs/news even though the lakers are not involved in any way. i guess that just shows that lakers fans really have no class. which is why a lot of people become lakers haters/kobe haters. lol.
  5. Coach Isiah Thompson
    5. Posted by Coach Isiah Thompson Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:18 pm EDT

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    Reggie Miller's looking good. Shawn Marion passes to the man, Rodney shoots the 3 and "BOOM" goes the dynamite! Why wasn't Rodney drafted? Travesty? Collusion? Discuss!
  6. sam
    6. Posted by sam Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:29 pm EDT

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    Marion needs to sign with the Cavs.
  7. ashton s
    7. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:33 pm EDT

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    #4 aki people hate because of a little thing called jealousy which i think you are begining to possess. Shawn marion can do the hands stand shaq can cartwheel and Rasheed wallace can do jumping jacks none of them will beat the Lakers end of story hater
  8. ashton s
    8. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:34 pm EDT

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    Dallas can contend dees n*ts
  9. Anton
    9. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:38 pm EDT

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    please, Cuban. Get'em if we can. Go Dallas!!!! I hope Odom gets stolen before the Lakers resign'em!
  10. Travis
    10. Posted by Travis Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:46 pm EDT

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    Thing is, I don't know what to expect from Marion anymore, and I'm not sure how he fits in with the Mavs. What the hell is the Mavs team's identity? What kind of offense do they run? We know they don't really play defense. What's Josh Howard's role? SG now? Mark Cuban is Daniel Snyder.
  11. The Devil
    11. Posted by The Devil Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:58 pm EDT

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    This would be another confusing move for the Mavericks. First there was the Devin Harris/Jason Kidd trade, which kinda made sense at the time but nonetheless didn't work out. They let Marquis Daniels go to save money and then turned around and sent a big contract to Desagana Diop. Then they traded Diop for Ryan Hollins. Then there's Devean George. And don't forget the Shawne Williams trade. They already have a pretty good poor man's Marion in James Singleton. What they should do is re-sign Bass and give him some minutes for once. Then try to add an athletic small forward like Matt Barnes, Linas Kleiza, or even bring back Marquis Daniels. They could also use a backup point guard. Barea is good but isn't a passer and has defensive liabilities. Beaubois sound like he could be good as well, but he's more Jason Terry than Jason Kidd. Anthony Carter is out there and would be good for a season or two. Wouldn't it make more sense to get 3 talented bench players for about the same as it would cost to get a former All-Star who's struggled the last 3 years?
  12. ashton s
    12. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:02 pm EDT

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    Cuban cant save you dont cry to him lakers are takin it again you know this
  13. DICK SMOTHERS
    13. Posted by DICK SMOTHERS Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:10 pm EDT

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    Kobe, gasol, d-fish, bynum, & artest........ i smell another championship!!
  14. Anton
    14. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:18 pm EDT

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    ashton s - you can talk all you want, but the truth will come soon enough and you will not even be here if the Lakers lose again. You got Boston, Spurs, Portland, Denver, Cleveland and a handful of others that can beat the Lakers, ESPECIALLY if Kobe overwork himself like he did this year (when he has a star in Pau). And having Artest do not mean anything if Kobe cannot lead him. And you know Kobe has leadership problems.
  15. Anton
    15. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:22 pm EDT

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    The Devil - good point. I do not think Marion will ever be as good as he was with the Suns but Dallas need to make SOME move unless they are just settling until next year.
  16. clarence t
    16. Posted by clarence t Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:24 pm EDT

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    He should sign with the Suns.. Where he can flourish under the Suns' system and Nash.
  17. ashton s
    17. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:25 pm EDT

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    The sounds of haters whining is music to my ears
  18. ashton s
    18. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:28 pm EDT

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    Dallas is a weak team to begin with they're still trying to get to the conference finals let alone win a championship and all those other teams you mentioned emperor s aren't as primed as the lakers are young core good chemistry talented all the eay from 1-12 wake up and smell the defeat hater
  19. Dribbles
    19. Posted by Dribbles Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:41 pm EDT

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    I'm not a big fan of the Hedo to Raps move either, but for the life of me I don't understand what you're talking about here KD. First of all, Hedo is 30. He doesn't rely on his athleticism, so why shouldn't he be a productive player at 34 or 35? Didn't Dallas just give Kidd an extension? How old is Kidd? How old is Kobe? How old is Nash?
    If Hedo sucks going into his 5th year, he's an expiring contract. And so what if he's playing with younger guys? Calderon is in his prime, Bosh is entering his prime, Bargnani is going into his 4th season, and then you have some younger players and players TBD. Who cares? Why wouldn't the Raps want a veteran on the team?
    I don't like the move because the Raps have been a soft, unathletic, poor rebounding team and I don't see how Hedo fits into the solution there. Hopefully BC has some tricks left up his sleeve.
  20. Anton
    20. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:45 pm EDT

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    Aston a - I am not a hater. I think the Lakers are a good team and are the team to beat, but I do think you should know the difference between a hater and a person who is rooting for a team other than the Lakers as you seem to generalize anyone who does not root for them as "haters." You seem more like a suck-up than an actual fan, since you are the only Lakers fan here to rub their scrotum in the faces of others. Just by the fact that you are on a blog that has nothing to do with the Lakers shows how much you are not a fan of them, but just a guy holding up their nuts and showing them to everyone on every damn blog.
  21. Anton
    21. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:47 pm EDT

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    ashton a I meant. sorry.
  22. Anton
    22. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:48 pm EDT

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    ashton s - Damn. lol.
  23. Juan S
    23. Posted by Juan S Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:03 pm EDT

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    They'll definantly be a contender again if they get marion, especially if he has a resurgance and starts playing like he did in phoenix
  24. QuAzY
    24. Posted by QuAzY Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:10 pm EDT

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    This is a good fit for the Cavs its like Matrix having another Nash in the team, you'll see more high flying dunking.
    I like S. Marion during my NBA fantasy days ... the bad thing is he "shoots like a girl" and can't create his own shot.
    Goodluck MAVS you'll need it 10000x
  25. ashton s
    25. Posted by ashton s Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    I've been a laker fan for 30 yrs and im just stating the facts as we all can see them and yes you are hater

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