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Understand heading into this post that I'm not passing judgment. I'm not calling either of these two rather nasty displays passable, acceptable and anything less that disturbing. I just feel it necessary to share something that surprised the hell out of me upon discovering it the other day, and I'd like to hear your thoughts.

While ambling through some alternately cogent and infuriating comments in this Sports Media Watch post from last week, I read about a brawl between the NHL's Boston Bruins and New York Rangers from years ago (1979, it turns out) that ended with the bulk of the Bruin roster taking to the Madison Square Garden stands. After an initial Google search gave me nothing, I headed over to YouTube and found this:

Yikes.

The brawl itself is pretty scary. What somehow registered more, as someone who had nothing better to do than be stuck in a room with the hundreds of hours of cable TV coverage of 2004's Pistons-Pacers brawl, was the fact that I had never seen a clip nor mention of this mess in all the hysteria that resulted following this disgusting turn of events:

The messed-up reality was that I'd never even heard about this hockey fight. Now, I understand that hockey has taken a hit over the last few years, but this was a melee in the world's most famous arena between the two most popular and historic stateside hockey clubs the NHL boasts.

And while I don't want to try and grade either this brawl or the Auburn Hills brawl on a sliding scale, doesn't it seem a bit odd that SportsCenter (at least) didn't fire up a clip of this in some sort of trashy top 10 countdown (like they do every time Bobby Knight acts like an ass)? And this can't be sloughed off as another, "ESPN hates the NHL" story, because the NHL was on ESPN and ABC in 2003-04, and was embroiled in a labor dispute in 2004-05.

So what do you think? Obviously, anything of any import or interest is bound to be trumped up beyond belief by the internets and 24-hour news cycle. The Auburn Hills melee was an example of that, but does this mean we dismiss or overlook any bit of similar history that took place prior to the Clinton administration?

Isn't it up to those who were around back then, and know that this sort of thing isn't unprecedented, to inform us about what's gone on in years past?

I have no doubt that a good portion of whoever was stuck on the respective panels of Pardon the Interruption and Around the Horn had at least a passing knowledge of the Madison Square Garden melee. So why weren't we - the fans who weren't yet born when the Bruins took to the seats - told about it?

Be tactful, be sensible, and let us know what you think.

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  1. Roger Mason Jr. = Hero
    1. Posted by Roger Mason Jr. = Hero Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    Kelly - fantastic piece. There's a couple of ways to cut it. First of all, fighting in hockey was (emphasis on was) more accepted as part of the game. Players are "allowed" to fight - making it much easier not only for something like this to spill over into the crowd, but also for people to rationalize its occurrence. In today's basketball, uh-uh, no way players don't get penalized heavily for engaging in a fight. Bill Simmons would also tell you that race is an important issue in this debate. Large black men beating up on smaller white men is much more sensational than two relatively equally sized white men hitting each other (albeit with a shoe at one point).
  2. Roger Mason Jr. = Hero
    2. Posted by Roger Mason Jr. = Hero Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    However, I'm not sure I agree with race card being played. I mean, it's just too easy to blame this on that. So, in short, I think it's a function of the first point I made.
  3. hans k
    3. Posted by hans k Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    Think the fighting is stupid! Hockey is about two teams and a puck, not about fighting. If they allow fights on a regular basis, they'll never be a serious sport!
  4. C J
    4. Posted by C J Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    It's amazing how there's "selective" amnesia about these things. I know if I ever see another fan beatdown, my mind will go back to Artest wading into the seats and hitting the wrong guy. How else do you explain it except that if they made the PacersPistons brawl out to not be the first time this had happened, it would lose some of it's sensationalism (new word? I can't tell.)
    Besides, if you look closely, those hockey players are like embracing and pawing the fans. Which pales when compared to the super punch O'Neal laid on the fatty courtside.
  5. Gils_Keloids
    5. Posted by Gils_Keloids Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 pm EDT

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    It may have to do with politics, in the sense that the sports networks with their affiliations and relationships with the NHL, while reporting on the NBA brawl, didn't want to bring up the NHL brawl and drag it back into the limelight.
    In the same way, the next time there is a large NHL brawl, they may not show the NBA brawl out of deference to the NBA.
    Just a thought.
  6. Paul
    6. Posted by Paul Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    Being from Boston, this fight was the first thing I thought of when the Pistons brawl happened. I'd mention it to people when they talked about the "problems in the NBA" regarding the fight and they usually responded with "well that was different". How? It's hard NOT to infer that race isn't an issue here.
  7. Basement Dwellers
    7. Posted by Basement Dwellers Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    A few years ago some drunk kid grabbed a hat from a Dodgers player at Wrigley field and the players went into the stands and punched the kid. Can't find the video on youtube, but those players pretty much got free passes. The Artest thing though was more violent than the hockey that was posted and that baseball fight.
  8. Will
    8. Posted by Will Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    wait, boston is one of the most popular us hockey teams? in what decade? the blackhawks have been relevant more recently than the bruins!
    i suspect espn's lack of coverage is more based on their institutional neglect of anything that occured prior to the mid-1980s, or anything that occured before espn started covering sports news.
  9. KD
    9. Posted by KD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    I'm from Chicago and I'd take the Bruins as being more popular.
    On one hand, John Deacon wore a Blackhawks jacket in this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR1pUIG_IaA
    On the other hand: Bill Wirtz was a tool.
  10. Rose h
    10. Posted by Rose h Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:51 pm EDT

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    As a fat girl on pluscupid*com, I love sports and live a healthier life. Not only do I have a fantasy for watching sports matches, but I do keep exercises every day. I am good at badminton.
  11. xsikal2
    11. Posted by xsikal2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:53 pm EDT

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    For what it's worth, when reporting on the bb brawl, espn did recap some of the other worst fights in team sports, and showed a clip of the hockey fight, (including the guy being beat with his own shoe).
    Maybe you all just did not see it?
  12. khandor
    12. Posted by khandor Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    KD,
    Immense respect for your intellect ... and thoroughly enjoy your writing 'style'; but, sometimes your youth does show through.
    Q1. Did a Bruin attack a fan, first, or did a fan attack a Bruin?
    Q2. Did a fan attack a Pacer, first, or did a Pacer attack a fan?
    A. The devil is in the details.
    (FWIW ... that exact video clip was, indeed, shown on different news/sports channels ... at least, in Canada :-) ... in the immediate aftermath of the 'Brawl at Auburn Hills' ... perhaps, you just missed it.)
    http://khondorssportsblog.wordpress.com/

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