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OK, we know the first decade of the 21st century doesn't really end until 2011. We think. But we also know there have been 10 full NBA seasons played since the phrase "Y2K" was on all of our lips (1999-2000), and here at Ball Don't Lie we've decided to use this as an offseason excuse to rank some of the best and not-so-brightest of the 10 campaigns in question. The result? Why, top 10 lists!

No, Scottie Pippen wasn't the best small forward of all time. Far from it.

But he helped define the position. And that position? You're in a position where you're expected to do just about everything well. Score, board, pass, dribble, defend, shoot, play, hard, play.

We think the following players have held up quite well to Pippen's on-court challenge. After the jump, you'll find the top 10 small forwards of the last decade.

10. Jamal Mashburn

He may not have changed the game much, but Mash was an all-around forward who basically made life hellish for any coach who underestimated his "nah, he's no game-changer"-abilities.

Scores in the post, scored off of hard dribbles, scored on the perimeter, and got to the line. Also made the right pass, played a bit of point forward, and rebounded well enough. His career was more or less over by the mid-point of the decade, but Mash could play. Remember that.

9. Andre Iguodala(notes)

In a pinch, his shot selection can be a bit crap. His handles aren't there, his perimeter touch isn't much to write home about, and he can gamble defensively.

Everything else? He's just fine. Scores, passes, uses his athleticism, contributes. Sure, he isn't what we'd hope for, considering the athletic package presented, but that hardly matters in the face of what he's given the 76ers since 2004. He may frustrate, but the ends help argue away the means.

8. Rashard Lewis(notes)

The Magic list him at power forward, which is quaint, but the man is a small forward. He stays on the perimeter, he worked the position in Seattle, he's a small forward.

Lewis' game hasn't exactly been the sort of stuff chilling docudramas have been made of, but he can shoot, he scores in double figures, and he can shoot. Shoots well, also.

7. Richard Jefferson(notes)

Because of his appearance on several nationally televised games per season, Jefferson tends to come off as a superduperstar. He isn't. But he's been pretty good, solid in all areas, since the 2001-02 season.

6. Joe Johnson(notes)

Johnson isn't the franchise player the Atlanta Hawks pegged him as, but as a do-it-all wing, he's damn good.

If Joe's legs are there, few are better at breaking down defenses and making a solid decision with the ball. He's a passable defender, a very good passer, a fine finisher in the paint, and someone worth defending behind the three-point line.

5. Peja Stojakovic(notes)

Peja's more or less finished, but he was a knockout scorer for years with the Sacramento Kings, on very good teams.

Though Predrag was drafted in 1996, Stojakovic didn't come over to the States until 1999, working as a backup wing during the lockout year. And his blend of quick and accurate shooting alongside post scoring made him a consistent All-Star during the decade.

4. Carmelo Anthony(notes)

As it is with just about every small forward on this list, 'Melo's game has holes. Doesn't defend well enough, could stand to pass better, take better, shots, and rebound better.

But he's adequate in most areas, and fantastic at putting the ball in the hole. And after a 2008-09 season that was a bit of a letdown individually, we see Anthony bouncing back.

3. Tracy McGrady(notes)

McGrady's been grimacing and in pain for most of the decade, but he's also been a standout wing. At his best, and at his healthiest, he has no limitations. No holes, nothing to work on, nothing to worry about.

Pity that he's had so, so much to worry about.

2. Paul Pierce(notes)

One year, 2003-04, didn't work out all that well. Pierce slept through the entire season.

Actually, 2006-07 was kind of a drag, Pierce was hurt and the Celtics stunk it up, but other than that? He's been all you can ask for as a small forward. Kind of annoying, pretty potent, sound in all areas.

1. LeBron James(notes)

Nobody on this list has come close to be considered the best player in the game. McGrady may have been there for a spell, but it was fleeting. Peja was thought of as an MVP candidate one year, but that was nuts. Anthony had promise, and while he hasn't let anyone down, he still isn't thought of as an MVP-type.

James? He's been at the top of the heap for a while. One of a few players who fighting for the top spot in the NBA in 2005-06, took a step back in 2006-07, and the game's best ever since. Fully worth the hype, the attention, while nearly making the idea of a position useless.

Small forward? Feh. Classifying things with LeBron, by position? It makes no sense.

Questions? Comments? Furious and righteous anger at a world, not to mention top 10 list, gone wrong? Swing by later today at about 3 p.m. Eastern for a BDL mini-chat regarding this very list.

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  1. Big2HD
    1. Posted by Big2HD Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:27 pm EDT

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    When did Joe Johnson become a SF? And Mash should be up there a little more, maybe around 7..
    Other than that nice list
  2. Jayjay
    2. Posted by Jayjay Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:28 pm EDT

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    No Ndudi Ebi? lol
  3. Jayjay
    3. Posted by Jayjay Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:29 pm EDT

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    seriously where is shawn marion?
  4. Mad Bladder
    4. Posted by Mad Bladder Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:32 pm EDT

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    yeah, JJ is a shooting guard. blatantly.
  5. MichaelL
    5. Posted by MichaelL Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:32 pm EDT

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    Pippen and Hill was still the best!
  6. edholden21
    6. Posted by edholden21 Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:34 pm EDT

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    AK47! And I disgree with calling Melo a SF and Joe Johnson too! I think there could be an outside shot for Tayshaun Prince.
  7. truthaboutit.net
    7. Posted by truthaboutit.net Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:36 pm EDT

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    I'm not sure about Igoudala being ahead of Caron Butler
  8. edholden21
    8. Posted by edholden21 Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:37 pm EDT

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    AK47! And I disgree with calling Melo a SF and Joe Johnson too! I think there could be an outside shot for Tayshaun Prince.
  9. danny c
    9. Posted by danny c Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:42 pm EDT

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    shawn marion man where is he, he's better then jefferson and stojakovic
  10. Da Hurricane
    10. Posted by Da Hurricane Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:43 pm EDT

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    My list:
    1 Lebron
    2 Pierce
    3 Melo
    4 TMac
    5 Marion
    6 Johnson
    7 Lamar Odom
    8 Kevin Durant
    9 Caron Butler
    10 Rashard Lewis
    I completely forgot about Jefferson and had Iggy Hop at SG.
  11. CB
    11. Posted by CB Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:45 pm EDT

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    How is Melo not a SF?? its scary when lebron avg 27 pts 6 reb 6 assist and it was considered "taking a step back"
  12. Alex B
    12. Posted by Alex B Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    Marion and AK47 need to be on this list. Mashburn...seriously?
  13. chaoz_golem
    13. Posted by chaoz_golem Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:50 pm EDT

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    This list is very accurate, and it's one of the reasons in this decade our All-Star teams have been dominated with PF's and sometimes even C's in our forward positions. It just hasn't been a great decade for wings in general compared to the PF, C's and PG's we've had
  14. Phil M
    14. Posted by Phil M Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:51 pm EDT

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    Where is Marion? Where is Caron? Where is Tony Dumas?
  15. Chris P
    15. Posted by Chris P Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:51 pm EDT

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    What about vince carter?
  16. the REAL Headless Chicken
    16. Posted by the REAL Headless Chicken Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:51 pm EDT

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    Marion is a PF and AK47 as well. No joke.
  17. Jeremy W
    17. Posted by Jeremy W Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:54 pm EDT

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    Caron Butler?
  18. Nathan S
    18. Posted by Nathan S Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:57 pm EDT

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    Shawn Marion?
  19. PHEEZY
    19. Posted by PHEEZY Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:02 pm EDT

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    LOL @ #2
    ndudi ebi lol
  20. Travis
    20. Posted by Travis Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:10 pm EDT

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    Marion is a complete oversight. Has to be.
  21. IRekkon
    21. Posted by IRekkon Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:10 pm EDT

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    T-Mac #3 really??? Maybe there were better ballers in late 80's early 90's. T-Mac is really not that good. He got hurt just as much as Hill did
  22. Travis
    22. Posted by Travis Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:12 pm EDT

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    Pierce should be around #5, in my opinion. Overrated.
  23. No Se Va
    23. Posted by No Se Va Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:14 pm EDT

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    The only guy not on here, who should be, maybe around 8 or 9, is Tayshaun Prince. I'd have him on my team as a Scottie Pippen lite anywhere.
  24. adamcawa
    24. Posted by adamcawa Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:14 pm EDT

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    Where are Shawn Marion and Andrei Kirlenko? And, as we all let you know before, Joe Johnson is a SHOOTING GAURD. Joe Johnson hasn't played the SF position regularly ever. He started at SG in Phoenix and he starts at SG in Atlanta.
    Seriously, Kelly Dwyer, you should just stop. Now. You clearly know nothing about the game of basketball. Why don't you go blog about bocce ball or something?
  25. Stevarino
    25. Posted by Stevarino Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:16 pm EDT

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    Someone seriously threw out AK47 to be on the list? You should be ashamed of yourself.

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