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OK, we know the first decade of the 21st century doesn't really end until 2011. We think. But we also know there have been 10 full NBA seasons played since the phrase "Y2K" was on all of our lips (1999-2000), and here at Ball Don't Lie we've decided to use this as an offseason excuse to rank some of the best and not-so-brightest of the 10 campaigns in question. The result? Why, top 10 lists! 

Drafting is an inexact science, save for the part where you're supposed to select the best player possible with the draft pick your team was assigned.

With that in mind, and with 10 2009-era drafts under our belt (and we considered the 2009 draft ... we swear!), here's our list of the 10 best players to come out of the second round over the last decade.


10. Luke Walton(notes)

Walton's all-around game, frontcourt versatility, and ability to pick up the triangle offense were a huge boon to the Lakers when they selected him 32nd overall in 2003. Career averages of 5.2 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.5 assists in 19 minutes a game aren't much, but the Lakers are quite happy with his output.


9. Marc Gasol(notes)

Some say it might be a bit much to offer up a big man with just one season under his belt on this list over a litany of well-meaning and solidly contributing NBA veterans who were taken beyond the first round. I say, "Did someone order a 7-footer with skills?" No? No? Of course you did.

Gasol eschewed the college ranks after going to high school in Memphis, only to see his stock drop a bit overseas before being taken 48th overall by the Lakers in 2007. When the Grizzlies traded his brother Pau to Los Angeles a year later, the city of Memphis regained his rights, and he debuted with the Grizzlies in 2008-09, averaging 12 points, 7.4 rebounds and a block in 31 minutes per game.


8. Anderson Varejao(notes)

People might be sick of his flop-happy ways by now, but Varejao is a minutes sponge in the frontcourt, and that's always a good thing to have. No real offensive moves, not a dominant rebounder, and his off-ball defense (taking those supposed "charges" and little else) isn't much, but he can ably play center and power forward for long stretches without hurting his team. This might seem like slim praise, but the 30th pick in the 2004 draft has carved out a solid, if annoying, niche in this league.


7. Trevor Ariza(notes)

Houston GM Daryl Morey seems to regard Ariza as an all-world defender, something I'm just not getting at this stage. He looks like an athletic, damn-good defender who can lock down when the focus is on him, but a Battier/Artest-type?

Either way, Ariza is in Houston's plans, which is something to carp about after being wasted by the Knicks (traded for Steve Francis(notes) in 2006), the Magic (dealt for Brian Cook(notes), woof) and tossed aside by the Lakers (essentially switched out for Ron Artest(notes) this summer). The 43rd overall pick in the 2004 draft is only 24, as well.

6. Monta Ellis(notes)

After the Warriors selected him 40th overall in the 2005 draft, Ellis had to bide his time in his rookie year before bursting on the scene late in the season. The last of the great high school-to-pros products, Ellis is a hybrid guard with a scoring knack who has put up 16 points per game on 49 percent shooting in just 32 minutes a contest over his career with Golden State. He's also a great fan of the movie Quadrophenia, apparently.

5. Paul Millsap(notes)

I don't care what caliber of player he's banging bodies with, how 46 other potential draft'ers (including the Jazz) could pass on a 6-8, 250-pound forward who led the NCAA in rebounding for three consecutive seasons back in 2006 boggles the mind. We all should have known better, and Millsap set us straight with averages of 9.4 points and 6.4 rebounds in under 23 minutes a game over his first three seasons.

4. Mehmet Okur(notes)

We might get on Okur from time to time for the things he can't or won't do, such as consistently defending or scoring huge numbers from the low post, but when you factor in what Okur can do, you have an absolute steal with the 38th pick in the 2001 draft.

Factor in that touch from all over the court, his ability to spread the floor, his ability to put up near-All-Star level production at the league's toughest position (center) to find All-Star level production at and an underrated rebounding streak, and you've got a 6-11 big who is well worth your time.

3. Carlos Boozer(notes)

The Duke pedigree, the uneasy way he left Cleveland, the injuries that followed, the free-agent talk, picking up his player option and putting the Jazz over the luxury tax, the trade talk ... Boozer doesn't exactly have the NBA's largest fan base. The guy can play, though, and his status as the 34th overall pick in 2002 seems pretty laughable by now once you factor in his career averages of 17 points and 10 rebounds in only 32 minutes per game.


2. Michael Redd(notes)

The 43rd overall pick in the 2001 draft doesn't really do anything else outside of scoring - Redd's career averages of 4.1 rebounds and 2.3 assists are pretty slim - but this shooter can truly fill it up. His scoring average of 20.5 points per game might not seem like an all-world number until you also consider the 34 minutes-per-game mark on Redd's career, a result of not receiving (if not "earning") starter's minutes until his fourth season.


1. Gilbert Arenas(notes)

Almost right away, during a rookie year on an awful Golden State Warriors team, it was obvious that Arenas was a much, much better player than his status as the 31st overall pick in the 2001 draft suggested.

A man supposedly without a position on draft night is more or less in the same situation now, but that hasn't halted GA from averaging 22.8 points, 5.5 assists, 4.2 rebounds, and 1.8 steals over 37 minutes per game in a career looking to rebound after nearly two full seasons spent on the bench, recovering from knee ailments.

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  1. illmatic88
    1. Posted by illmatic88 Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:24 am EDT

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    LOL @ Luke F*^%## Walton over Mo Williams
  2. Amit
    2. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:25 am EDT

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    Ginnobilli?
  3. illmatic88
    3. Posted by illmatic88 Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:28 am EDT

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    Manu just missed it I believe...they're taking the 2000 Draft onwards...he was in '99
  4. Amit
    4. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:29 am EDT

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    luis Scola?
  5. Ben
    5. Posted by Ben Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:29 am EDT

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    What, no love for Marcin Gortat?
  6. Ben
    6. Posted by Ben Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:30 am EDT

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    What, no love for Marcin Gortat?
  7. Amit
    7. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:30 am EDT

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    ya i agree the walton pick is terrible. I'm on nbadraft.net right now going through the picks and their are much better options then walton.
  8. Amit
    8. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:32 am EDT

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    Gortat while skilled is still only a backup at this point. Much too early to put him on this list I think.
  9. Lang
    9. Posted by Lang Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:42 am EDT

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    The "Duke Pedigree" involves having the best Alumni in the game statistically. Look it up, Duke pros earn more and produce more than any other school. Only Uconn & UNC challenge.
  10. Amit
    10. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:48 am EDT

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    Id argue the opposite that Duke players work welol in the college system but they dont always translate to NBA success. I think thats a large reason why BOOzer was taken in the 2nd round. Gm's weren't convinced that Boozer's Duke numbers would translate to NBA greatness. Too many Duke prospects that went bust (Laetnerr, Hurley, and Reddick). Duke is a great NCAA program for winning college games and at times they can produce NBA talent.
  11. Amit
    11. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    Id argue the opposite that Duke players work well in the college system but they dont always translate to NBA success. I think thats a large reason why BOOzer was taken in the 2nd round. Gm's weren't convinced that Boozer's Duke numbers would translate to NBA greatness. Too many Duke prospects that went bust (Laetnerr, Hurley, and Reddick). Duke is a great NCAA program for winning college games and at times they can produce NBA talent.
  12. marko
    12. Posted by marko Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    Jody Meeks is making the list in a couple of years. And of course DeJuan Blair.
  13. Amit
    13. Posted by Amit Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:50 am EDT

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    oh yeah that Jwill pick as well probably soured GM's opinion of Duke players.
  14. J3FF
    14. Posted by J3FF Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:18 am EDT

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    MoW and Scola!
  15. Travis
    15. Posted by Travis Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:18 am EDT

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    Walton, really? Is the second round that useless to NBA teams? I know he's a decent role guy off the bench (way down there on that bench, if I'm Phil), but wow. I'd put Mo Williams over him.
  16. Travis
    16. Posted by Travis Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:32 am EDT

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    Bobby Simmons, Earl Watson, Roger Mason Jr., Flip Murray, Matt Barnes, Luis Scola, Steve Blake, Kyle Korver, Mo Williams, Chris Duhon, Brandon Bass, CJ Miles, Ronny Turiaf, Louis Williams, Ryan Gomes, Andray Blatche, Amir Johnson, Marcin Gortat (05 was a great year for second rounders), Craig Smith, Daniel Gibson, Carl Landry, Glen Davis, Ramon Sessions, Mario Chalmers, and probably Dante Cunningham.
    All of these guys probably deserve to be on the list ahead of Luke Walton, and many ahead of Gasol and Varejao (we're talking value and production, not contract size, right?).
    Appreciate the list, KD. Really wish I could make it to the live chat about this one! Keep the lists comin'!
  17. Travis
    17. Posted by Travis Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:35 am EDT

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    Okay, maybe not Amir Johnson.
  18. Ben
    18. Posted by Ben Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:46 am EDT

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    no rashard lewis?
  19. Ben
    19. Posted by Ben Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:47 am EDT

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    my bad...not this era...
  20. Brandon
    20. Posted by Brandon Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:21 pm EDT

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    Ok where the heck is Ginobili and R. Lewis?????????
  21. Brandon
    21. Posted by Brandon Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:21 pm EDT

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    Ok where is Ginobili and R. Lewis?
  22. Ramon Ortiz-Luis
    22. Posted by Ramon Ortiz-Luis Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:27 pm EDT

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    how about rajon!
  23. Imago Fan
    23. Posted by Imago Fan Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:32 pm EDT

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    ginobli was in the 99 draft
  24. snakedynasty
    24. Posted by snakedynasty Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:34 pm EDT

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    Where's Scola, Williams, and Landry?
  25. CarolineM
    25. Posted by CarolineM Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:35 pm EDT

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    Big baby davis?

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