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Less than 24 hours after Portland warned NBA teams not to touch Darius Miles or risk possible legal action, the Grizzlies called their bluff and signed DM to a 10-day contract. If he plays in two games, the remaining $18 million of his previous contract with Portland goes back on the Blazers' salary cap. Eek. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about it all ...

The Sporting Blog: "Apparently I grossly underestimated just how grudging respect for KP had been, how much he was seen as equal parts brilliant and smug. This Miles stuff was the last straw, the culmination of several seasons worth of ambivalence toward Pritchard. For any other general manager, it would have been awkward. In this case, it was not only embarrassing — it was just the misstep others had been waiting for."

Blazer's Edge: "It is very, very, very unlikely the Blazers will end up suing the Grizzlies or any one else over Darius. This was a unanimous conclusion among everyone I talked to (10+ people). That was my understanding going into the arena tonight based on conversations I've had and nothing tonight led me to believe that there was a good chance things will change. Of course, anything is possible; but if you want to simply call that email an epic fail and move on with your life, I think you should feel very confident in doing so. Unless the Blazers have access to a "smoking gun" (some evidence that the Grizzlies' sole intention in playing Miles is to screw with the Blazers) this legal chapter is done. And it should be: the team is better off focusing on presenting their appeal to the league. Given the circumstances, it seems like an appeal might have a reasonable chance of succeeding."

Sports On My Mind: "[Team President] Larry Miller has learned that the NBA is not the NFL, where, win or lose big, owners still can garner enormous profits through means other than winning and filling their stadiums. In the NBA with its guaranteed player contracts, putting an exciting product on the floor, winning games, and filling the arena is a must. And though league commissioner David Stern has turned more conservative, backing off his 'player’s first' stance of the halcyon days of the NBA, the paradigm shift in league-wide attitude and philosophy toward players in image based and not inextricably tied to the flow of money through the sport."

Beyond The Beat: "As someone who covers the league, I couldn’t but help think about Portland’s position in all of this the past few days — well, at least since Friday. How hard will it be now for Blazers GM Kevin Pritchard to work the phones — knowing what has transpired regarding Darius Miles (that’s the last time you will hear Miles’ name mentioned, I swear) — and not feel that will play a factor into how other front offices respond? He won’t be communicating via e-mail. This much we know."

The Rip City Project (comments): "... a priceless comment on ESPN regarding the so-called Darius situation: 'To follow the Taco Bell allegory, it would be like ordering a taco and the guy sayin its a $1.29. So you pay for it and eat it, then the manager comes up and says, "Oops, my employee was wrong, its $3.29," and expecting you to pay it, and if you can't, he makes you work in the kitchen until you can give him $5.29 for trying to circumvent Taco Bell's pay before you eat policy. Maybe that allegory works, I'm pretty drunk.'"

The FanHouse: "The biggest impact (other than the potential for Portland's summer cap space to be halved) might be renewed national excitement for the Grizzlies. Bloggers, fans and non-Blazer partisans have almost universally cheered the Memphis move, with Hardwood Paroxysm's headline bringing the best summation. The Grizz are 11-26, but someone needs to get Friday's home game against Utah on national TV. Kevin Pritchard will be able to hear the cheers when Miles comes in all the way in Oregon."

SLAM Online: "It’s kinda funny: People used to dislike the Blazers because they had a bunch of players who got in trouble all the time. Now people dislike the Blazers not because of their actual players, but because of the people in the front office who went out and got the nice players. Go figure."

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  1. Chip
    1. Posted by Chip Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    If you are interested in Memphis' side of the arguement then read this blog: http://www.3shadesofblue.com/20090110226/memphis-grizzlies/january-2009/portland-we-call-your-bluff.html
  2. Jay
    2. Posted by Jay Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:47 pm EDT

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    I think its pretty funny how Portland's front office is being pretty unprofessional about this. Who knows if Memphis is signing Miles because he actually can help the team or they just want to say fu to Portland, but its interesting either way! Hopefully Miles plays and plays well!
  3. ticktock6
    3. Posted by ticktock6 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm EDT

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    And, if you have the fortitude for it, a contract law perspective:
    http://hornetshype.com/wp/2009/01/10/the-long-miles-to-redemption-and-stupid-lawyers/
  4. gaborik10m
    4. Posted by gaborik10m Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm EDT

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    As a Blazer fan, in Portland, I hated hearing what Larry Miller did. As far as anyone can tell, who knows if KP had anything to do with this. He's still a genius, and I have a feeling when Darius plays his 10th game, KP will start working on a deal involving Raef LaFrentz' huge expiring contract.
    It's rather obvious Miles will not be a useful part of any team this season, and whether or not they picked him to intentionally ruin a team won't ever be proven but when you play him for 2 games (probably after learning that the 6 preseason games actually counted towards the total) since apparently NOBODY knew they did until a week ago, then release him to avoid having to pay him for a season, yet you DO still want him for another 10 day contract? Ooooooooookay? Why? You're not making any noise in the NBA this year...Is Miles on a 10 day going to turn your team around? Since you aren't going to play him until you're losing by 20 for 2 minutes so he can jog up and down the court, I'm sure thats a reasonable reason to sign a player.
    Really? There's nobody out there who can ACTUALLY crack this line-up?
    Just like last years bogus Gasol for Gasol deal, Memphis is out again to F with the league
  5. alex m
    5. Posted by alex m Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    need I say OCD?
  6. steve
    6. Posted by steve Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    "It's rather obvious Miles will not be a useful part of any team this season, and whether or not they picked him to intentionally ruin a team won't ever be proven but when you play him for 2 games (probably after learning that the 6 preseason games actually counted towards the total) since apparently NOBODY knew they did until a week ago, then release him to avoid having to pay him for a season, yet you DO still want him for another 10 day contract? Ooooooooookay? Why?"
    This is actually rather simple. The Grizzlies released him because they would have had to guarantee his contract for the rest of the season had they not waived him. By releasing him, they left themselves the option of signing Miles to consecutive ten-day contracts to give themselves more time to determine if they will need to sign another big man if Darko Milicic does not return soon. The Clippers did the same with Fred Jones. This is a pretty common occurrence prior to contracts becoming guaranteed.
    "Just like last years bogus Gasol for Gasol deal, Memphis is out again to F with the league"
    Can someone tell me which better deal was out there for Gasol last year? Kirilenko? Marion and Marcus Banks? So many followers of sports think that trades are only about talent for talent at the moment of the trade. The Lakers offered exactly what the Grizzlies wanted, cap space, draft picks, and young talent. Marc Gasol is averaging 11.4 and 6.9 as a rookie. Darrell Arthur is averaging 5.3 and 4.3 as a rookie. They turned Crittendon into a draft pick. They got 10 million dollars in expiring contracts.
    If you think Miles is such a bum, try taking your anger out on the Blazers for signing him to that deal to begin with. Directing your rage at the Grizzlies for having a bench player whose best days are behind him makes about as much sense as rambling about the Sixers having Donyell Marshall.
  7. j-smoove
    7. Posted by j-smoove Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    To #5, the reason is completely obvious: because it costs less for them to sign him to 10-day contracts.
    Perhaps you think it's a good idea to willingly overpay for a product you can easily get for less money. No wonder you're siding with the Blazers.
  8. erwin
    8. Posted by erwin Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:56 pm EDT

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    #2 you are absolutely right. My question is why Mr.Darius Miles got an 18 million contract from his previous team.As far as I know his been stink since his day one in NBA, it remind me Adonal Foyle of Okland warriors.
  9. David P
    9. Posted by David P Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    When someone signs him to even a one year deal, then I'll believe that teams have faith in his knee and it wasn't done just to mess with the Blazers.
    The doctors from the NBA, the NBA PA and the Blazers said he should not play, not that he could not. 60 minutes in six preseason games, and 12 minutes of garbage time in two regular season games, do not necessarily prove that he is fully rehabilitated. I've heard Danny Ainge and Chris Wallace say he was fine. I'm waiting to hear that from a doctor.
    I wonder: if all the doctors were right and Darius ends up turning himself into a cripple, are people going to be riding Wallace, Ainge, Dan Gilbert and everyone else for putting Darius on the floor? Just asking, Skeets. I'll be waiting
  10. James J
    10. Posted by James J Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    This is getting blown way out of proportion.....sure, the Blazers don't want the contract on their cap, but they were primarily trying to guard against Denver, Utah, Lakers and other 'younger', solid teams in the West who know they will have to contend with the Blazers for years to come from trying to hinder the Blazer's ability to put good teams on the floor in the future. The Blazers are not doing to sue Memphis and everyone should just let it go.
  11. LakerFan
    11. Posted by LakerFan Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    Who Cares!!!!???!!! You all are making a big deal out of nothing....So we loose some cap space and have to pay luxury tax?!!!!!
    I have been a BLAZER Season ticket holder since 1975 and we have the luxury of having the richest sports owner on the planet own our team and yes he has learned from days of the "Trader Bob" era....and I do believe that we HAVE been paying a luxury tax since its inception....So cool your jets.....and get it right......Good Luck to you Darius...........So as it goes we have a solid lineup and all we need is some more experience and a tweek here and there and we will celebrating NBA CHAMPIONSHIP(S)in PDX soon enough enough said......All of you other teams are just jealous of what we have!!!!
    SO DROP IT ALREADY!!!
    Peace and Love
    BLAZERSBECOOL1975
  12. sean m
    12. Posted by sean m Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:11 pm EDT

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    its called karma, the blazers are the ones who wanted darius miles to play for them, he went to portland and did his job, then they throw him out because he was medically unfit to play. ok that was their choice as an organization, now miles wants to play in the nba again. thats his choice!! it doesn't matter if they stand to loose 18 million. they made a bad business decision....live w/ it. don't cry like lil woosies and try to stop miles from playin'.....
  13. idizzle
    13. Posted by idizzle Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm EDT

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    I think it's hilarious how everybody pretends like Miles medical retirement was a joke. It was an independent doctor, approved and appointed by the League. Just because Miles can still run up and down the court, albeit a little slower, doesn't mean his knee isn't jacked. Of course he can still play a little, but who really thinks he can withstand the rigors of an NBA season? Most likely, if he tries, he's going to risk much worse injury to the knee and eventually require a knee replacement. He'll basically suffer the rest of his life.
    The analogy is a football who's suffered a number of concussions and is told that if he gets another one or two, he'll be a vegetable. If said player tried to give it a go, of course he'd look like he could still play, but that's a dangerous game.
    I'm a Portland fan, and while I don't really care for the way the Blazers are going about this, I do think people are being rather quick to judge, thinking that KP is out to ruin Darius Miles.
  14. Sarge
    14. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    Darius is a SLACKER. He always has been. He's good for a couple highlight dunks, a block or two, a couple of rebounds and the rest of the time he is just taking floor space that would be better occupied by a 5th TEAMMATE!!! He'll ruin most teams chemistry, unless it's the original JAILBLAZERS, he added quit a bit to that debacle. He stated that he knew all along that he would be able to play again but didn't want to play for Portland, it sounds like he was sandbagging to get the Blazers to release him. I'm not too concerned about what all this will do to the Blazers, it sounds like they'll be able to appeal the case as there is no president for a case like this. If he is still on the Blazer's payroll shouldn't he have to play for the Blazers? Darius and an independent doctor said he couldn't play anymore why would you penalize the Blazers for that?
  15. Charles C
    15. Posted by Charles C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    Darius=Cancer
  16. Sarge
    16. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    I think the standard of what is considered a come-back would be grounds enough for the Blazers to win an appeal. He has to jog up and down the court for a couple of minutes in garbage time, in pre-season or regular season games? Yeah, I'm convinced he's back in $16 million a year health. I hope the Blazers get another chance to put him in their roster. LOL.
  17. reyg_418
    17. Posted by reyg_418 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:37 pm EDT

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    For me, its all Portland frontoffice to be blamed. Whyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coz they signed him to a huge contract and yet they couldnt finish the contract years with the player. That is the best way to finish him off, mind you Portland geniuses!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
  18. Envigado
    18. Posted by Envigado Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    I would love to see Miles and/or the union sue Portland big time.
    But this does kinda rule from the perspective of now we can hate on Portland. They were pretty much airtight before this.
    Unfortunately this blows from the perspective of my wardrobe... my Tim Hardaway jersey? In the closet (he he). Baron Davis Warriors throwback? Around here someplace, not on a hanger. And now my Arvydas jersey... think I'll have to bite the bullet and still rock that one.
  19. zZz
    19. Posted by zZz Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:02 pm EDT

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    portland gave miles a long contract because he's knees weren't as jacked as they happened to be in the last 2 years. plus KP didn't give that contract it was someone else who formed the jailblazers. i agree with the guys here that there should be a rather more valuable standard in ruling a comeback. 10 games(2 mins. per) is not a good standard, hell,even an injured guy can do that. i say, sign him for the rest of the season and let him play an ample amount of playing time every night. NBA, PA have assigned their doctor and declared it career ending, why assign a doctor if you won't believe him in the first place? the point here is if he could play and make a comeback(not just show up wearing a jersey run up and down the floor), memphis obviously uses him for marketing purposes(don't tell me that Chris Wallace tells us he believes in DM's defense and length, hell, even the undrafted/unsigned ones gets those kind of comments) it's as if he's the new grizzlies mascot.
  20. Sarge
    20. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    quote "its called karma, the blazers are the ones who wanted darius miles to play for them, he went to portland and did his job, then they throw him out because he was medically unfit to play. ok that was their choice as an organization, now miles wants to play in the nba again. thats his choice!! it doesn't matter if they stand to loose 18 million. they made a bad business decision....live w/ it. don't cry like lil woosies and try to stop miles from playin'....."
    You don't know what you're talking about. DM came to P-Town, kicked some azz, smoked some dope, harrassed some strippers, got a BIG contract and felt he was done, started under performing, got hurt, made a half azzed attempt to return, cried, whined, and faked his way into getting an INDEPENDENT doctor to say he had a career ending injury. How is that "HIS JOB"?
    BTW The Blazer only said if they find out that a team signed DM for the purpose of screwing the Blazers they would seek legal retribution.
  21. Sarge
    21. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    quote"For me, its all Portland frontoffice to be blamed. Whyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coz they signed him to a huge contract and yet they couldnt finish the contract years with the player. That is the best way to finish him off, mind you Portland geniuses!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"
    They couldn't finish the contract years? What are you talking about? you're a bigger d-a than the last guy. Who's the first person you ask if you think somebody can't play, multiple choice: 1) The player 2)The organization 3)The league 4) An independent doctor 5)Your mama. The obvious answer is (1). If the player says he can't play you can't make him. It's a well know fact that DM didn't want to play in Portland anymore, he said so much in multiple interviews. I just wish "THE CURSE" (DM) were picked up by a good team like Utah or Denver to better the Blazers chances of winning the division. Good luck with that Memphis.
  22. Sarge
    22. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    post 1; Maybe the Blazers had the last laugh on Memphis. The blazer don't have to make roaster spot for this P.O.S.. The Griz do!
  23. Sarge
    23. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    Post 2. DM Can't/Won't help any team(in 10 days?), therefore his signing will only hurt the Blazer=malicious act.
  24. Sarge
    24. Posted by Sarge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    I can't wait to see Darius help the Grizzlies "put it to" the Cavaliers. You know, the first team to see him as an INFECTION!!!
  25. Jono Bacon
    25. Posted by Jono Bacon Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:36 pm EDT

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    How taste my peepeepee?
    Is it just me or does Miles have more of a case against the Blazers for threathening teams that might be interested in the lazy bum's services than Portland has against Memphis or whatever team would have signed him?
    This has nothing to do with Miles whose career, immaturity and flaws are well chronicled.
    I wouldnt want that poison around my team even if it costs 1$ to sign him.
    This has everything to do about how Portlands screwed up.
    I read two things in a Memphis paper which I found funny: Griz brass was particularly impressed with how Miles used his length and basketball IQ when defending Minnesota’s Al Jefferson.
    Basketball IQ? Darius Miles? Really?
    Well, its IS the Grizzlies after all so we shouldnt be too surprised. " We were hearing a lot of rumblings and rumors that there were teams out there planning to sign Darius Miles specifically and maliciously to hurt our organization."
    Since Portland team president Larry Miller seems to read a lot of online gossip and comments on blogs before he decides which move he will make, maybe we could start a rumour about Larry's brain being as small as his penis. After this idiotic stunt, people wouldnt be surprised that both are true.
    Besides, cant wait for him to issue a memo or email loudly proclaiming that these online rumors are utterly false, the water was cold and there was lots of shrinkage.
    Big up to Steve #7 for his explanation of the Gasol/Gasol trade.
    The ignorant comment he countered is unfortunately the kind of stuff you hear way too much of online.

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