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Order is restored in international ball! (Sort of.) Here's a little more of what they're saying out in the ether about the United States 118-107 win over Spain in the gold-medal game on Sunday ...

Dan Shanoff, The Sporting Blog: "Was USA Hoops really redeemed? Well, they lose the derisive nickname "USA Oops," and that’s a start. They vanquished the best in the world and reclaimed gold — but not without a bit of tension in the final game. Too much tension, really. As predicted four years ago when the "Redeem Team" concept was born in the failure of Athens, the presence of Kobe was the winning difference. And yet despite the well-publicized 3-year commitments, the team was still based on stars, not an international-friendly system. Sure, this team, so talented at the top, was able to overcome its shortcomings in strategy and personnel — but what happens in 4 years? Almost assuredly, there will be no Kobe. There will be no LeBron or Wade. Give up another 3 summers? Ha."

Sports On My Mind: "I am really happy the US won ... but before we get overconfident, let’s remember we played Australia without Bogut, Argentina without Ginobili, and Spain without Calderon for much of all three games. The world has caught up — it’s no longer up for debate."

Hardwood Paroxysm: "I never thought I'd care about an Olympic basketball team. The Dream Team wasn't compelling to me. You can't completely dominate to that degree before it gets boring. In basketball at least. But I got to love this team. Maybe because everyone dogged them for not beating everyone by 40 and for not shooting 60% from the arc. But I really got to love them, and somewhere in there I really started to identify with them as representing my country. It was in the interviews. It was different from the usual halftime interviews on TNT on a Thursday. There was a genuine pride and love you could see in their eyes. When Sager interviewed Kobe and Wade after the game, and after the interview they hugged and yelled at each other, it was genuine. The best in the world, celebrating a common goal achieved. And I was proud of them. For this moment, this one, brief moment in time, they're not monstrously paid superstars, they're not marketing tools, they're not images. They're real people, playing for the pride of their country. And tonight, they redeemed us in the eyes of the world."

Trail Blazers Center Court: "Personally, I've very proud of the way Nate McMillan represented the United States and the Portland Trail Blazers. I couldn't be happier for Coach. But Rudy Fernandez was the story. Just ridiculous. His performance throughout the Olympics, capped off by last night's stellar game against Team USA, is going to make the wait for his arrival all the more difficult. The dead-eye shooting from long range. The visionary alley-oops and assists. Dunking on Dwight Howard's dome. The constant motion on offense. The straight fearlessness against Kobe Bryant. His play was nearly flawless, save fouling out while giving up a four-point play to the Mamba."

Lang Whitaker, SLAM Online: "Much has been made of Jerry Colangelo requiring the current Team USA to commit to a three-year hitch in order to play on the team. It’s been trumpeted so much that it’s almost become overlooked, and I think it was key to this team’s success. Not only did it give Coach K a chance to install his systems, but it gave the players time to understand what the hell was going on. Also, it gave Coach K a chance to build some relationships with the players. Kobe told me that Coach K stayed in touch with the guys throughout the period, sending emails and leaving voicemails. I don’t like Duke and I don’t enjoy Coach K’s two million endorsements and commercials, but I love that Coach K was so dedicated to the gig. I also love that he didn’t put himself above the team — he figured out how to get the most of his players and coached to their strengths, instead of trying to force them into roles they didn’t understand or embrace. And that’s how Team USA won tonight. Nobody was asked to do anything they couldn’t do."

Lakers Blog: "It was a particularly fun day for patriotic Lakers fans, who saw the gold secured in large part due to a fourth quarter absolutely owned by Kobe. His 13 points/2 dime final frame highlights included a skying block of Juan Carlos Navarro's layup, being directly involved in six American points via setup or shot during a 69 second stretch (helping bump a four point lead back to nine), and a pair of triples, the latter a four point play after some contact by Rudy Fernandez, whose strong play and dunk on Dwight Howard likely had Blazers fans all giddy. That sequence also allowed Kobe a moment of entertaining showmanship; a finger pressed to his lips, reminding the rowdy Spaniard crowd that a duller roar might be in order. It was also cool to see the excitement plastered all over Kobe's face, having accomplished a goal that clearly meant tons to him and his mates."

Fourth Place Medal: "How much did Nike give Craig Sager to show off LeBron James' shoe before the gold medal game? That's the only thing I kept thinking as I watched Sager's "report" before the U.S.-Spain contest. In case you missed it, just before tip-off, NBC announcers Mike Breen and Doug Collins kicked it over to Sager for a sideline update. Instead of telling viewers about something worthwhile, Sager held up James' shoe explaining that it was it was a new Nike model and that LeBron was wearing it for the first time because it gave him some extra support. Out of all the things he could have told fans about before the Olympic Championship game, he decided to discuss King James' shoe selection. What?"

Tom Ziller, The Sporting Blog: "Team USA hasn't changed one bit from the 2004 disaster. The players are just better. The starting lineup in 2004: angry Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury. The starting lineup in 2008: Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Jason Kidd. I mean, Duncan aside — Timmy hated FIBA rules/refs — that's a terrible lineup compared to today's team. The style didn't change: Team USA still gambled for steals instead of playing cogent, consistent team defense, isolation offense ruled the day. But this set of players was so good it couldn't be beat. If the Athens players were better, the 2004 team would have won."

Brew Hoop: "If Dwyane Wade was the perfect sixth man (and he most certainly was) then Tayshaun Prince was also the ideal tenth man, something missing from previous versions of Team USA. You just felt at ease whenever Prince was on the court throughout the tournament. And his 3-3 effort in eight minutes against Spain sure didn't hurt in the 11-point win, right? Let's just say I wouldn't mind seeing him, at 32, in London in 2012."

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  1. AndJustice4All
    1. Posted by AndJustice4All Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    Nope they simply won with a helping hand from the incompetent referees!!!
    Referees played the whole tournament with nba rules for the USA team and with fiba rules in addition for the others teams in the competition.
    If you cannot play with fiba rules then you are nor worthy winners!!!
    Spain almost brush the USA team aside if it was not because of the dodgy umprofessional referees!!!
    Go go go Spain!!!
  2. hassandora
    2. Posted by hassandora Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    oh cry me a river jessy there was no way spain could have beaten the u.s in any rules period!! they received two beatings what else do you want USA GOLD!!
  3. Andrew I
    3. Posted by Andrew I Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    Wade was the man in the game against Spain, not Kobe. It was embarrassing the way Doug Collins was fawning over Bryant the whole second half. Take a look at the tape. It was Bryant taking stupid shots outside the team concept, and it was ESPECIALLY Bryant getting beat time and time again on the defensive end by Juan Carlos Navarro.
    Give credit where credit is clearly due. Wade carried this team to victory. Bryant about got them a loss with his slack defense and poor shot selection. He redeemed himself down the stretch making some big shots, but overall he was in no way shape or form the driver of the victory.
  4. C
    4. Posted by C Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    Well look at it like this, Manu said that for any team to beat USA they would have to play the game of their lives, well Spain did and lost. Several guys had career games and still it was not enough. The game was always in danger of turning into a 30-point beat down but the shots would not stay down at the wrong moments. The Spanish team got away with some hacking that would have gotten you 5 to 10 for assault stateside but that is neither here nor there, we won.
  5. The Rip City Commander
    5. Posted by The Rip City Commander Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:25 pm EDT

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    It's safe to day that Spain actually surprised the hell out of me during that game. I hadn't planned on watching it at all with the thought that it was going to be another lopsided US victory. But, as I was flipping over to "Sanford and Son" on Nick at Nite, I caught a glimpse of the score... and the remote was thrown out the window.
    To me it wasn't really surprising that Kobe was making mistake after mistake, (see 2007 NBA playoffs for more examples). Or that Lebron and D-Wade were high flying monsters in the paint. What really got me excited was the play of a couple Spaniards: Juan Carlos Navarro and Rudy Fernandez.
    Navarro was driving the lane like a madman, scoring almost at will. No one could defend him. I felt almost embarrassed for Kobe, (not really though, I have to hate Kobe and the Lakers by law). As far as Rudy, well, being a Trailblazer Maniac, I think I may have had a stroke when he posterized Howard in the fourth quarter. Fernandez has some of the sickest hops I've ever seen for a tiny guard and I gotta tell you, after seeing his performance AND with the beginning of the Oden era, Rudy coming to town and Aldridge and Roy growing as leaders it feels good to be a Blazer fan again.
    Now, I may kick myself in the head for this, but I ALMOST agree with USA Today's power rankings putting Portland 5th in the league. Now, I said almost, so save the death threats.
    Anyway, USA still got gold... and Rudy put up a show, so this Blazer fan got his money's worth out of the Olympics... even though I missed "Sanford and Son"
  6. The Rip City Commander
    6. Posted by The Rip City Commander Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:25 pm EDT

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    Ooops... I meant 2008 NBA playoffs when referencing Kobe's mistakes... Yes, I make mistakes too. But I don't get paid millions of dollars to do so.
  7. yungguna
    7. Posted by yungguna Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:58 pm EDT

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    Jessy M, you're joking, right?
    As someone has stated already, Spain played the game of their lives. Team USA played lackluster, and still managed a victory. It was an exciting game to watch, and I am glad that USA came out on top.
  8. pepefantasy
    8. Posted by pepefantasy Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    Spain didn't played the game of their lives. No way.
  9. Flip
    9. Posted by Flip Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    Team USA play lackluster?, please, they had to shoot over 60% to win it, Kobe had to take over at the end, at one point in the first half the US had been 8/11 from downtown and it was still a virtually tied game.
    Team USA threw EVERYTHING they had at Spain, and Spain matched it through the entire game, eve without their starting PG. That's what's remarkable about it: Kobe, Lebron, Howard, Wade... that's probably the 2nd best basketball team ever put together, and it almost was not good enough.
    What's gonna happen when the next world championships take place?, or on the next Olympics?... as far as Kobe and Lebron goes, they're done....
  10. KingKoopa
    10. Posted by KingKoopa Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:45 pm EDT

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    Kobe single handedly won it for Team USA.
    The guy is simply the best.
  11. ferdie Cajanding
    11. Posted by ferdie Cajanding Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    I want to congratulate the men's basketball team for getting the gold.
    congrats to each especially to my number one IDOL Jason Kidd!
  12. timmytwoballs
    12. Posted by timmytwoballs Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:10 pm EDT

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    i want rudy fernandez in me.
  13. Mad Game
    13. Posted by Mad Game Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    Lets not talk about Calderon not playing ,or Ginobili not playing.That means that the USA can talk about K.G ,Duncan,Ray Allen and a lot of others who could've been on the team.PLEASE STOP HATING.Lets see,team USA won it's games by an average of 28 points.They beat Spain by 37 and 11 points.So,the USA defeated the next best team by an average of 24 points.Glad the rest of the world has narrowed the gap.Does anybody doubt that if it were best 4 of 7 this would have been a sweep ?I spoke to Dwight Howard and D Wade,and told them that the Spanish players and media said they tanked the first meeting,claiming they didn't want to show thier hand to the USA.Both Wade and D-12 said that's garbage.They called it stupid strategy by Spain.Who know's maybe Spain and the rest of the Euro based HATERS are waiting to show thier hand in 2010 in Turkey.They'll be holding Silver again.Mad Love to Colangelo.USA Rules the Hoop World.
  14. Andrew I
    14. Posted by Andrew I Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    Hey KingKoopa,
    Did you watch the game???!!! Kobe won it by himself? He got beat so many times on defense it wasn't even funny. THAT is why the game was as close as it was. Kobe getting beat off the dribble defending the opposing point, and then taking very bad shots at the other end. Again, he made a few big shots to stave off the upset, but he was the reason it was close.
    Watch the game again, on the 2nd half defensive possessions especially, and THEN come back here and say "Kobe won it by himself."
    Laughable nonsense. Most popular does not equal best player. Wade had no peer in these Olympics. None.
  15. Yano R
    15. Posted by Yano R Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    i will send you tape or dvd copy of the Finals Game and tell me who saves US team...
    it is your so called ^has been^ D.Wade
    his offense and defense bare them out
    and for Spaniards blogger here, hey you guys have a great team and future so dont cry foul on the refs, I still believe you can steal either the World Fiba or Olympics, your R. Rubio must have a range at the 3pt arc and he will be better than Ginobili, and adopt his heart too. For the Argentinians, well I hope they can find a replacement for Manu in the future.
  16. Rick
    16. Posted by Rick Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:54 pm EDT

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    wade hit a big shot near the end but the work was done by kobe's drive and assist. sorry, but you're wrong. USA won the GOLD for sure, but they were on the shoulders of Kobe when it mattered, and that's why we're talking about Gold and not Silver.
  17. Andrew I
    17. Posted by Andrew I Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    on the shoulders of Kobe when it mattered
    Complete nonsense, backed up with a complete vacuum as far as evidence. One shot near the end doesn't tell the story at all.
    The US team was the best because of defense, not offense. Kobe was a complete sieve on defense against Navarro. It's baffling that people are so love struck with Bryant that they can't see the logs in their eyes.
    Bryant took a few shots down the stretch. Big deal. If you think the other guys on that team couldn't have scored, think again. Anyone could have scored; but it was the pathetic defensive lapses that made it necessary to hit those shots down the stretch. That 3 pointer late was NOT a high percentage shot. It went in, but it's inexcusable that the game was close enough that hitting a 3 like that was necessary to seal the win.
  18. Kobe mvp no.1
    18. Posted by Kobe mvp no.1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:38 pm EDT

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    Andrew l, ur so stupid,kobe hit 4/7 fgs,3/3 fts,2 3pters in the crucial 4th quarter in the usa vs spain game,1 block in the 4th quarter by kobe including 2 assists on derons 3 and howards dunk during that crucial time,if kobe didnt play theyl lose.
    2004,olympics leBRONZE,carmeLOSER,waDEFEATED collected their bronze medal.
    2006 world basketball another leBRONZE,carmeLOSER,waDEFEATED bronze medal performance.
    kobe is the BEST and the MVP of any team.
  19. Kobe mvp no.1
    19. Posted by Kobe mvp no.1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:38 pm EDT

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    Andrew l, ur so stupid,kobe hit 4/7 fgs,3/3 fts,2 3pters in the crucial 4th quarter in the usa vs spain game,1 block in the 4th quarter by kobe including 2 assists on derons 3 and howards dunk during that crucial time,if kobe didnt play theyl lose.
    2004,olympics leBRONZE,carmeLOSER,waDEFEATED collected their bronze medal.
    2006 world basketball another leBRONZE,carmeLOSER,waDEFEATED bronze medal performance.
    kobe is the BEST and the MVP of any team.
  20. Kobe mvp no.1
    20. Posted by Kobe mvp no.1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:38 pm EDT

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    your just jealous Andrew l,your favorite player got the bronze,but kobe is undefeated in olympics. can you dig that?! SUCKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
  21. Yano R
    21. Posted by Yano R Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    yes with the help of Wade he got gold.
    it was offense and defense for Wade
    Navarro almost eat Kobe, about 90 percent of the game
    and Navarro almost won it for Spain.
    take away your so called waDEfeated and Team USA could have lost frankly. I watched it all over again, the whole game, in tape
  22. Head
    22. Posted by Head Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm EDT

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    Let's get back to REAL hoops with the NBA and NCAA please..... This fiba version is like a mutation of wrestling and basketball. Goal tending is a good rule- thank god it's alive and well in the US!
    Who's this yano fool saying the spanish 'almost' won it?? The US beat them by double digits. The US shouldn't have let up against the spanish, it only allows for foreigners without a clue of the sport like yano that don't understand the game to post drivel like that. But what are you gonna do, show no respect for the competition? We not only invented the game but we're clearly the only ones that respect all aspects of it.
    shut up yano and go back to your game of kicking a ball in a dirt field, you're a cretin regarding your basketball knowledge.
  23. Andrew I
    23. Posted by Andrew I Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    Let's see, you are the one who can't put together a coherent sentence, and focus only on the offensive aspects of the game, but I am the one that is stupid. Gotcha. Glad you pointed that out.
    Watch the game. Kobe getting beat on defense on every possession is what made the game close. He controlled the ball on offense, so naturally he did some good there, but claiming he won this game by himself is ridiculous. Basketball is both ends of the floor, and a team effort. Pulling him for Williams or Kidd could easily have widened the margin of victory, because the DEFENSE would have been that much better. There were plenty of other options on offense.
  24. veron r
    24. Posted by veron r Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:45 pm EDT

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    add calderon in that game and the end results might of been different, also spain coached coach a bad game he held out rudy to long on the bench men imagine Calderon, Juan Carlos, Rudy and the gasol brothers on the floor together in that game can you say gold

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