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On the same day Chris Webber announced his retirement, his 1999 hit CD '2 Much Drama' also went out of stock. (At least, I think it did. I hadn't checked that website in over eight years.) Here's what they're saying out in the blogosphere about C-Webb's sad news ... 

Stet Sports Blog: "Webber was supposed to be power forward 2.0, until controversy, injury and Kevin Garnett all came along and derailed that notion. He'll be remembered more for dating Tyra Banks than his five all-star appearances, and more for being a budding hip-hop producer than a career 20 ppg-9 rpg-4 apg player. There's so much that Chris Webber could've been to himself and to the league, but it all works out in the end. He's freed himself of filling an expectation he began building way back in high school, and can finally walk into maturity his way."

The Big Lead: "Sure, Webber never won an NCAA or NBA title -- some might even argue he is precisely the reason Michigan and Sacramento didn’t win it all -- but this does not mean he’s one of the eight best power forwards in NBA history. We’ve got him ahead of guys like Dirk, Rasheed Wallace and Amare (if only because they’re young) and we actually think that C-Webb is much closer to Kevin McHale than ESPN [did]."

SLAMonline: "NBA Live 95. The Warriors had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin, and Webber (and Billy Owens. He wasn't allowed to touch the ball). Unstoppable. In real life they had injuries, but I prefer to remember the virtual best team ever. I can't even tell you how many times we did impression of the barbershop commercial where he dunks on Barkley and invents the Sir Charles quote 'I don't believe in role models, but you mine.'"

Commenter Mityt, Sactown Royalty: (Should Webber's number be retired?) "I say no. I loved Webb and you can't deny his numbers, but he was within inches of leaving Sac [...] The ONLY reason he stayed was because of the $$$ and who can blame him. Retiring jersey numbers should be for special franchise players. I don't think #4 qualifies, as witnessed by his knee injury and the team's subsequent success. How much was Webb a product of a beautiful system and excellent complimentary players, how can you truly judge?"

SimonOnSports: "Chris Webber's career is a career of almosts and not quites. He almost won two NCAA Titles. He almost knocked off the Lakers, which would have surely given him his first NBA Title. He almost had a career to get him into the Hall of Fame but the injuries and lack of playoff success will surely keep him out. But with all these not quites there is one thing for certain, Chris Webber was, is and will always be my favorite athlete. And today I am saddened that I will never watch him play again and that the biggest sports link to my childhood is calling it a career."

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  1. Sparkle-Hoops
    1. Posted by Sparkle-Hoops Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 pm EDT

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    Finally, a guy who knew when to hang it up. Job well done Chris! The ladies will miss that sexy crooked smile of yours :)
  2. Odenized
    2. Posted by Odenized Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    My very first hoops video game, NBA Live '95. What fond memories. My favorite player was Mark Price. I don't even remember using CWebb because the team was so bad. Then again, so were the Cavs.
  3. jtakeo11
    3. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    man, i love chris webber. that silky smooth jumper he developed, hands that could handle any pass from white choclate. i cant believe his career is over. he'll be missed
  4. junebugversushurricane
    4. Posted by junebugversushurricane Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Webber had some maturity issues but the guy had tremendous heart as a player. I remember when the Kings won their division in 2002 and there was no celebrating, only a shot of Webber with an intense look on his face that said he wasn't going to accept this, that it was only a stepping stone to the championship. I still think the Lakers were handed that Western Conference Finals series by the refs. There was a moment late in game 6 when C-Webb was trying to inbound to Bibby and Kobe bear-hugged Bibby, pinning his arms to his sides, right in front of a ref who was looking at him and made no call. Just one of several head-scratchers by the refs. Anyway, I feel bad for Webber that he never got his chance at that title. He sure did provide some entertaining moments throughout the years.
  5. Casey H
    5. Posted by Casey H Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    Webber was nice, but no way he's even Top 10 NBA power forward. That's no knock on C-Webb, there have just been a lot of great pf's in the history of the NBA.
  6. adiii
    6. Posted by adiii Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm EDT

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    Chris Webber, my favorite player. So athletically talented, injuries definetely halted his career. That Kings teams SHOULD have won at least once, so many chances, each time they came close, someone got hurt...sigh...I'll miss you CWebb, I always wanted you to win a ring. Much love.
    I totally agree with Post 6, well said.
  7. Mo Hal
    7. Posted by Mo Hal Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    Chris Webber, a great ball player, who played his best games in Sacremento. The Kings with ball players such Bibby, Peja,Chrisite,Divac and those 3 point Jackson. I enjoyed watching C-Webb and the Kings take on Shaq and the Lakers in the Championship game. One of the most watched game during 2002 and the Kings were about to win, until Robert Horry hit the game winning three pointer. Great game C-Webb and remember that you can always return with that gracious talent. Much, much respect to a man with two starting benches in Sacramento.
  8. Ezekiel K
    8. Posted by Ezekiel K Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    CWebb #4 was, is, and will always be my favorite NBA player - from his Michigan days, to GS, WAS, SAC, PHI, DET. He will always be remembered as one of the Top PF's in the game. Had injuries not gotten in the way of his career, undoubtedly he will be in the Top 5 or Top 10 PFs Of All-Time. And one thing I really like about Webb, his off-court persona - dude is a fan-favorite, his amiable smile, his big heart for helping the community has trully endeared him to a lot of NBA fans. I'm deeply saddened to see Webber walk off the court. Chris, you will be trully missed.
  9. decrepit0
    9. Posted by decrepit0 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:04 pm EDT

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    Lakers dominated the Kings and Chris Crybaby Webber...
  10. khandor
    10. Posted by khandor Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    Character is what shapes Destiny.
    C-Webb was never a 'Power' Forward.
  11. Paul C
    11. Posted by Paul C Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:05 pm EDT

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    I wish you well CWebb. I guess I would like to share my memories. I remember you in High School and you certainly had all the goods. I remember Country Day playing Detroit Southwestern. It was a good game a CWebbs undermanned team (class B Champs) gave Southwestern a good game. (J Rose, Voshan Leanard). I don't need to discuss Michigan. Mistakes are made. However, Nobody can take away from the fact that CWebb was a very talented player. He averaged 20 points a game and very close to 10 rebounds a game for a career. He certainly had hops in his day and was a very good passer. He made some mistakes in his career. He played on some teams that were not talented. He played outstanding basketball in Sacramento and nearly made it. I realize many don't like Webber. Regardless, he was a very talented basketball player and every other individual with those types of numbers is in the hall of fame. So I will always have fond memories and without a doubt CWebb is a potential Hall of Famer. Although I have to say other great players have not made it. Somebody needs to get Adrian Dantley in the Hall of fame.
  12. james donato
    12. Posted by james donato Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    God Bless! Chris, thanks for the memory.
  13. big ten alum
    13. Posted by big ten alum Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    chris is an arrogant jerk. also like a previous poster noted, he had maturity problems. he never won b/c he was never a clutch player. .
  14. Chris H
    14. Posted by Chris H Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    SimonOnSports said it better than i ever could have. My jersey number throughout my playing days was always #4. Even after I took some time off from the sport, C-Webb was the reason I started paying attention to pro ball again. Watching him run the Princeton offense from the high post was a nothing short of perfection. Even though he never quite made it to the top, I think the league will be a little less interesting without #4. God bless.
  15. chrysty
    15. Posted by chrysty Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:25 pm EDT

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    Sometimes luck doesn't go your way. Chris hands down was one of the best power forwards ever. Being from Sacramento I know he cherished his time here. I witnessed one of the most exciting offenses ever when it was J Will, Peja, Vlade, and Webber. I'll never forget the Sports Illustrated cover with them on it saying "Greatest Show on Earth". And I love all the haters who bring up the infamous time-out and him not winning an NBA championsip. Who cares? Should we start naming the greats who excelled without winning a ring? Then people like to bring up the controversy he had. Should we count the number of greats who had their forgettable moments? Chris had the entire package...his hands, his post game, his outside shot, his unreal passing, and unreal athleticism. Just imagine if his knee didn't go out. He'd still be balling. No doubt a Hall of Famer. Congrats on a sweet career Chris. The bad luck won't hide the good for the real basketball fans. Peace
  16. bojie
    16. Posted by bojie Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:50 pm EDT

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    injuries halted c-webb to be the greatest power forward of all time.pass and dribbles like magic.he gave pf spot a new excitement just what magic did in pg.tnx for the memories c-webb.good luck #4.
  17. Ross P
    17. Posted by Ross P Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    I think it's safe to blame one of the overrated Pf's of the game Dirk for his downfall. After the ACL injury c webb just wasnt the same. all the opportunities webber would have had after that year were stopped and he was forced to mediocre play for the remainder of his career. You will be missed
  18. bong777rock
    18. Posted by bong777rock Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    You have a career that was surrounded by ups & downs.An almost championship ring,but you are an emotional athlete.A gifted one,thanks for the memories!God bless!
  19. sunset
    19. Posted by sunset Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:48 pm EDT

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    Its unfortunate he didn't try to sign with the Utah Jazz this season. He would have fit perfectly in their scheme and is a great bigman passer, something Memhet Okur sucks at, and they could have used the depth. He wouldn't have even needed to play defense, okur never does that either. He would have been a pick n roll god at least for about 15 min a game.
    Golden state was never the right place. But give him credit for retiring when he felt he was done.
  20. Bobby
    20. Posted by Bobby Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    Much love C-Webb, you will be sorely missed! As the above poster stated, the "real basketball fans" have appreciated your talent and ability throughout your career. You are definitely a Hall of Famer and anyone who says otherwise is sadly mistaken. Even after two injury plagued years, he still averages close to 21 and 10?!? Lets not also forget the 4 assists also! Come on, thats insane to say these are not Hall of Fame numbers. Chris, hold your head kid, you did amazing things for each team you played for bc you made them all much better! Be blessed C-Webb and everyone else...even you haters. You know who you are!!!!!
  21. tupark82
    21. Posted by tupark82 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    After MJ left, i stopped following basketball. Then came C-Webb, Adelman, and the new look Kings that brought my interest back in the NBA and I've followed ever since then. Critisize all you want but Webber turned the franchise around and made them the most fun team to watch for many years despite heartbreaking losses in the playoffs largely to a Lakers team that won 3 championships. Respect the man for being one of the most versatile power forwards in the game. Webber will be missed, one of my all time favorite players before the knee injury.
  22. Marcus Aurelius
    22. Posted by Marcus Aurelius Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Media loves dragging this guy through the mud, but even the most tabloid of journalists knows in his heart of hearts this guy was one of the most talented to ever step on the court. You can't control the rest of the team roster or the zebras but Webber put his sweat equity in every night and the numbers show it.
    People who blame a guy for not winning a championship after a career-altering injury... really ought to be smacked upside the head. Like I'm sure he asked for the injury. Maybe if Chris had gone to Duke he would have been treated a little more like Grant Hill.
    Please, spare us all the hypocrisy. And when these writers get a career-ending stroke that leaves them with a permanent speech impediment I wonder if the athletes should take it easy on them when they're working the beat in the locker room.
    What comes around goes around.
    Chris played a good game and left what he had on the floor, and is leaving honorably as one of the game's best. See you on TV, dude.
  23. WiLL
    23. Posted by WiLL Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:52 pm EDT

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    Those Kings teams were truly something special. Man, I would give ANYTHING to go back and do that Lakers series all over again. I am still heartbroken that they didn't finish the job. I will always be a kings fan, but i doubt that I will ever have the same feelings as I did for those teams. You helped put Sacramento on the map. Thanks for the memories C-Webb, my all time favorite NBA player
  24. aleadholm76
    24. Posted by aleadholm76 Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:49 pm EDT

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    Those of us from Sacramento owe you a heartfelt thank you for being a part of the transformation of our franchise. I know many of us were hoping the Maloofs would sign you for a one day contract in order for you to retire a KING. You will never be forgotten in this town and we all hope that (along with Detroit) you still consider Sactown your home. Much love. And here's to raising the #4 up into the ARCO rafters!
  25. SPIDEY!
    25. Posted by SPIDEY! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    CHRIS WEBBER!!......u were the reason i watched NBA, u were the best, u gave urself to the kings, u brought kings everything. THank u !!!we'll miss you, you're one of the best all round players!!u're be remembered!!

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