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The soap opera is over. Tuesday, Stephon Marbury and the Knicks agreed to a buyout of his deal and New York has placed him on waivers. He's expected to sign with Boston. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about the final chapter ...

Straight Bangin': "In effect, the Knicks decided that all of the tomfoolery and insanity, all of the wasted time and resources, the chance for Stephon to redeem himself with a title after behaving like a child — it was all worth $2m now and $2m in luxury tax savings. $4m to the Knicks is like 50 cents to Tiger Woods. It's pathetic and disgusting. Maybe that's an overreaction, or a reaction encouraged by an irrational, visceral disdain for Steph. But as a Knicks fan who would like his favorite team to do one thing right for once, this feels like the latest betrayal. They couldn't even do this one thing. Unreal. And for what? FOR WHAT?"

Tommy Dee, The Knicks Blog: "In all honesty I hope that he goes to Boston and wins, because if he doesn’t, if the Celts somehow fall victim to Lebron or Kobe,the fans will all point at Steph as the reason they lost. He’s a born loser. He would be the common denominator. I hope not because I’d hate for the Celtics fans to see that getting mad at Steph just makes you even more mad inside. And that the anger that I, myself, felt for a hometown guy is so infuriating because you know he doesn’t care. He had no heart for all the fans who held him accountable.  He never played hard for those Knick fans, and he’ll never play hard for the fans of Boston. He wasn’t Starks, Oakley or Ewing, or Walt, Bradley or Reed."

Hardwood Paroxysm: "It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Marbury in the long-term, though. Supposing he latches on with the Celtics and does a respectable job, what kind of contract would he deserve this summer? The midlevel? Less? Every dollar that some EuroLeague owner has? It’s a situation that’s entirely dependent on random, chaotic circumstances, and I’m not putting my money down on any particular outcome. Matt called Rafer Alston a 'wild card' for the Magic, and to an extent he is, but is there a bigger question mark in this league than Stephon Marbury? He could potentially score 20 points off the bench for you in a big game, or he could mire your team in an unvanquishable funk with his bizarre sense of self-righteousness. Starbury’s been a one-man show in his own theater for a long time, but the intermission is over and it’s just getting to the good part."

NBA Noise: "If the Celtics sign Marbury, they must be sweating their chances of repeating as champions this season and feel a strong need to make an impact move. This is likely due to the continued success of the Lakers, Cavs, Magic and Spurs. This is not the dependable, no risk signing of P.J. Brown last season. This is a Russian roullette move to get a final competitive edge before the playoff push. It's (theoretically) possible that it could end up being the brilliant move by the Celtics brass that sets them apart from the competition. However, if you asked me if I wanted to bring in a head case who is not a proven winner and is on his decline to my favorite team, the answer would clearly be 'no.'"

Posting & Toasting: "When Stephon Marbury joined the Knicks, it was all about basketball. I have very clear memories of joining a capacity Garden crowd on January 31, 2004 to watch Marbury light up his old Suns team just weeks into his Knick tenure. Steph sparked New York in the middle two quarters with individual runs of 11 and 9 points. He was pulling up from absolutely anywhere he pleased, testing the deepest waters of three-point range and stoking the frenzied crowd all the while. Marbury finished with 35 points that night, and responded to questions of revenge bluntly: 'I wanted to win the game. I don't have any vendettas against them. I understand the decision they made. I have no hard feelings toward them.' He then led a team that prominently featured Shandon Anderson and a 37 year-old Dikembe Mutombo to the playoffs, only to fall to the far superior New Jersey Nets in four games."

Celtics Hub: "If Marbury has lost a step on defense or isn’t ready to buy in, he shouldn’t be playing 15 minutes against Cleveland in a playoff game. Between now and then, of course, there are games against the Wizards where the Celtics can find out what they need to know, and I suppose it’s worth paying the pro-rated veteran’s minimum to do that research and prevent Marbury from signing with Cleveland or something. So maybe that’s the answer. Maybe this is a cheap fishing expedition the team would be dumb not to go on. And I’m fine with that as long as the team treats Marbury like any anonymous rookie gunning for a 10-day contract. He shouldn’t be playing June minutes just because of his name."

Sports On My Mind: "Forget Boston, Orlando is the right place for Marbury. With Superman in the post and Hedo and Rashard spreading the floor for him, it is the perfect destination for a classic penetrate-and-dish guard. Even a step-slower out-of-practice Marbury could step right in and replicate Jameer Nelson’s game. Rafer Alson? I think that Orlando dropped the ball here."

Darren Rovell, Sport Biz: "Marbury was scheduled to earn $20.8 million from the Knicks. So let’s play it conservative and say the final agreement is for $17.8 million. Using that number, we worked up some math that you will surely cringe over.

— Days since the start of the season: 119
— Salary per day: $149,579
— Salary per hour: $6,232
— Salary per minute: $104
— Salary per second: $1.73

Indeed, Marbury earned enough money to buy a pair of his Starbury shoes ($14.98 per pair) every nine seconds. Assuming an average per capita income of $39,000 here in the United States and a $17.8 million settlement, Marbury earned what an average American earns for the year in less than 6 1/2 hours."

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  1. alex m
    1. Posted by alex m Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    About a decade or so ago, I had two rookie cards. One was A-Rod, and the other was Marbury. Had I known they would turn out to be complete idiots, I would have sold high long ago. Now I would just give them away.
  2. CB
    2. Posted by CB Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm EDT

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    that breakdown is crazy.... and thats if he settled fro 17.8 milli.. it could be a lil more..
    i wish i was marbury this season... dude had the greatest job on earth.. 20 mill to chill and watch bball on the front row. you cant beat that at all
  3. tanida yungan
    3. Posted by tanida yungan Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    i bet Celtics will get him...since Celtics is Dealing now witht the Cavs and the Lakers. we'll just see and wait who's team will get and what he will do for that team....good luck
  4. chillyfromphilly
    4. Posted by chillyfromphilly Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:33 pm EDT

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    the rich get richer, the celtics or maybe even the cavs or some other contender will pick up marbury. i dont know what the knicks thought they were proving. marbury held all of the cards, he gets paid no matter what. if the knicks were really smart they would have played him the entire first half of the season and maybe... maybe got someone in a trade( maybe a 3 team deal involving amare stoudamire)
  5. grawlrus
    5. Posted by grawlrus Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    forgive me if this is petty, but during the 2004 season dikembe mutombo was fifty-three* years old.
  6. Boomhauer
    6. Posted by Boomhauer Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    Cavs would never sign Marbury. He and LeBron don't get along.
  7. E.B. White
    7. Posted by E.B. White Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:46 pm EDT

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    All I know is some team is going to be getting a lot of big, awkward hugs in the near future.
  8. KNICKS :(
    8. Posted by KNICKS :( Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Minn improved every year Marbury was there with KG. On all the other teams guys were young or bums. On PHX it was Stoudemire's rookie year and they were in the playoffs. They decided to blow up the team. The Nets sucked even before he came and Van Horn was over rated. You already know about the none ballers on the Knicks. The Celtics before last year under Doc were the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. I think Paul Pierce was on that team. People are saying Marbury is going to mess it up. On all those teams you had constant turnover of coaches and players. The Celtics have a coach that has complete authority and the players a GOOD. He doesn't have to make them better. LOL. What ever that means.
  9. KNICKS :(
    9. Posted by KNICKS :( Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    The Knicks are losers here. They would be way better with Marbury than Duhon. In this system Marbury would have averaged 11 assist.The personnel is much improved over what they had the last couple of years. The Knicks entire starting line up is different. Marbury did exactly what management asked him to do and they lied to him.
  10. Miller Time
    10. Posted by Miller Time Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

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    Starbury's got to go to Boston, thats the only place he has a chance of not destroying (bc of KG's locker room presence) . Cleveland would never work, what he's goin to take time from MO or DW no impossible. WoJo ripped him apart, I mean the guy is a cancer no doubt, but I think this time away had to have some impact. I cant imagine what it would do to guy who was one of the leagues "stars" to go to being told that the new coach of your team doesnt want you to be apart of the team, if thats not a wake up call for the guy I dont know what is. But that being said I dont blame the guy for holding out as long as he could with the Knicks, its there fault they signed him to such a mega deal and he should feel free to milk as much as he can.
    Starbury has a very unique opportunity, he can go to Boston and prove everyone wrong as he holds the Championship Trophy over the heads of everyone that bashed him to no end. I have to agree with WoJo though, he will probably do more damage than good for Boston, and when Boston falls short of repeating they wont look at the fact that their bench was so weak and their aging stars, they will put it all on him. Thats a big win / lose scenario.....
  11. TPOD
    11. Posted by TPOD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Knicks, are you really Marbury with a pseudonym. Because those are classic excuses for a player who was a wasted signing for every one of those teams. And the big reason was Marbury himself. It's not just that those teams didn't win championships, it's that he was a headcase, a whiner, and a complainer on them. Not just a me-first player, but a me-only player. He had talent, but his psych dysfunction and personality issues overrode that talent. And whatever lip service he gave to winning, he never had the attitude of one. Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, Bird, if any of them had Marbury's attitude, they wouldn't be or have been a shadow of the players they were or are. Heart is just as important a component as talent in being a champion.
  12. G-MAN
    12. Posted by G-MAN Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:35 pm EDT

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    Guess it's time to hold our breath......
  13. K NEL
    13. Posted by K NEL Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:55 pm EDT

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    Honestly, I could care less about Marbury. He's a me first type of player. I mean he can still get his points and get 7 to 9 assist a game but his attitude is the problem. Celtics just signed Mikki Moore so Steph is going there. Defnitely not going to the Cavs. I think Orlando could use him off the bench maybe even the Heat. Bottom line I hope he's not going to look to start b/c that's not going to happen with any team in the league
  14. HMC
    14. Posted by HMC Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Hey, Alex M, I'll take those rookie cards! 8^D
  15. chris w
    15. Posted by chris w Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:42 pm EDT

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    Unfortunately it had to come to this but i am more concerned about the circus like atmosphere that was created by Knicks management again on handling this and previous incidents. It just seemed again that the GM, coach and Owner were all on different pages.First the GM instructed him to come back in shape of which he did then the Coach had to be instructed by the GM to take him to camp, he went no issues arose then they expend relatively good minutes on him during preseason where he excelled.Then we move along to the season opener where ultimately the most talented player on the team was told after the game that the team is going in a different direction.We are all quite aware of Steph being a spoiled athlete but him being offered minutes and the refusals due to injuries, then the offer of a starting position at SG for the remainder of the season by a Coach who first denied cursing at the Garden fans is a little questionable and shortsighted by management.Ultimately Steph was not a team player and a head case with Dolan looking for an opportunity to even the score from the previous incident of the sexual harrassment suit.So with all these things combined management should have aggressively pursued all options to have rid themselves at all costs cause Cablevision can afford it rather than have this distraction continue all the way through to the midway point of the season.Last but not least now that we have rid ourselves of this distraction what additions have we made to compensate for this move and make us better .
  16. Lawrence
    16. Posted by Lawrence Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:57 pm EDT

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    I think all of you Maurbury haters will be proven wrong the knicks not only lied to him but they hurt themselves in the long run with free agents of 2010 who will trust this organization after what they did to Stephon you lie and tell all is forgiven and then wait till the first game of the year to tell him he's not part of your plans. Step is still the best player on the knicks this year
  17. RUTAX
    17. Posted by RUTAX Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:13 pm EDT

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    he just needs to play his role..which is back up to RONDO...be a sam cassel...why didnt BOSTON keep cassel in the first place...was he too old???no good??is marbury better???will he play for the TEAM???..i have no idea why that went down...i would of kept cassel and try and get a big man...waste of time keeping cassel in the first place then
  18. NBA Addict
    18. Posted by NBA Addict Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:29 pm EDT

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    Most of us can be like stephon: being a me-first person.
    most of us can be good if given the chance: even in a blip of time.
    stephon can lead the celtics second unit.
    the celtics can defend their nba title with stephon around.
  19. NBA Addict
    19. Posted by NBA Addict Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:29 pm EDT

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    Most of us can be like stephon: being a me-first person.
    most of us can be good if given the chance: even in a blip of time.
    stephon can lead the celtics second unit.
    the celtics can defend their nba title with stephon around.
  20. NBA Addict
    20. Posted by NBA Addict Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:29 pm EDT

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    Most of us can be like stephon: being a me-first person.
    most of us can be good if given the chance: even in a blip of time.
    stephon can lead the celtics second unit.
    the celtics can defend their nba title with stephon around.
  21. j king baby
    21. Posted by j king baby Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    Cassel didnt want to be there anymore because he couldn't handle it.
    Neither will Marbury.
  22. j king baby
    22. Posted by j king baby Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    nice job, triple post.
  23. MASTER_YODA
    23. Posted by MASTER_YODA Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:16 pm EDT

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    A guy with enormus talent and an ego that is 10 times bigger. he needs to put that aside to play with the celtics. they play as a team which is a concepts marbury does not understand. if his ego came down to the level of his talent "maybe" he will work out for boston.
  24. Phantom Power
    24. Posted by Phantom Power Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    Obviously the Celtics are in "Scare-Mode" for the playoffs and are trying to strengthen the team by inserting a needed guard. Good luck with Stephon Marbury! If LeBron doesn"t get along with him, do the Celtics think that he'll be thumbs-up with K.G.?!!! K.G. yells at team mates for not trying hard enough. How do you think it's gonna go when Marbury doesn't feel like making the effort? I feel sorry for the Boston fans because they are about ready see what it was like for New York and all the other fans accross this country who had Stephon Marbury on their team. Anyway, I'm sure the Lakers are more than happy that this is happening to the Celtis!. GOOD LUCK!
  25. Phantom Power
    25. Posted by Phantom Power Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    Obviously the Celtics are in "Scare-Mode" for the playoffs and are trying to strengthen the team by inserting a needed guard. Good luck with Stephon Marbury! If LeBron doesn"t get along with him, do the Celtics think that he'll be thumbs-up with K.G.?!!! K.G. yells at team mates for not trying hard enough. How do you think it's gonna go when Marbury doesn't feel like making the effort? I feel sorry for the Boston fans because they are about ready see what it was like for New York and all the other fans accross this country who had Stephon Marbury on their team. Anyway, I'm sure the Lakers are more than happy that this is happening to the Celtics!. GOOD LUCK!

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