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Scanning the blogs and beats following the Lakers' 93-91 road win over the Spurs in Game 4 of the Western Conference Finals...

48 Minutes Of Hell: "I'll be honest with you. I think this Lakers team has more talent than the Spurs. I think this Lakers team is better than the Spurs. I have said for sometime that if the Spurs were going to make it out of the Western Conference it was going to take a victory over a superior squad and the squad I was referring to was none other than the Los Angeles Lakers. But, I'm sorry, I give them no credit on this evening. If they take this series, I will be a gracious loser. I will commend them on their poise and their focus, and wish them luck in the NBA Finals. But on this evening they will receive no such commendations. They didn't deserve to lose tonight’s game, but they sure as hell didn't deserve to win it either."

Bill Plaschke, LA Times: "Two bad calls equals no bad calls. The difference in this game wasn't in Barry's 24-foot jumper or in the 24-second shot clock. The difference was in No. 24, period. Yeah, the guy who missed that quick jumper, the guy who missed a wild layup a few seconds earlier, the guy who was actually scolded by Phil Jackson for being too aggressive. Nobody is talking about it. Nobody was thinking about it. Even the man himself seemed surprised to be asked about it. But look closer and see that a night when he missed more than half his shots was yet another testament to the greatness of Kobe Bryant."

Pounding The Rock: "Complaining about free throws is just grasping at straws, like a vanquished foe begging for their life. It's unbecoming. The story of this game is the really the same as the story for the season: old and slow. The announcers repeatedly talked about how the Lakers were "quicker to the ball." Well, yeah. They're quicker to everything. They're quicker answering the door. They're quicker taking a dump. They're quicker. I mean, Robert Horry played 16 minutes. A guy that passed up a wide-open 4 footer played 16 minutes. A guy that has LITERALLY done NOTHING all year to earn a SINGLE minute of playing time plays 16 minutes in the biggest game of the year. Shouldn't this automatically disqualify the Spurs?"

Jeff McDonald, SA Express-News: "In his wildest dreams, the play would have gone off without a hitch. Brent Barry would have gotten his open look. He would have drained his sixth 3-pointer. Then, two comebacks — one for the Spurs in a pivotal Game 4 of the Western Conference finals, one for Barry in what has been somewhat of a lost season for him — would have been complete. That would have been the fairy tale. Funny thing about fairy tales. You don’t always get to write them at will."

Lakers Blog: "Yes, it was a foul, no, it didn't cost San Antonio the game. Had Barry shot as soon as Fish hit him with the contact, it would be a different story, but by putting the ball on the floor, Barry eliminated the opportunity to be put on the line. Had the refs called that a shooting foul, it would have been a far more egregious whistle than the non-call on Fish."

Buck Harvey, SA Express-News: "One lucky shot deserves another, Shaquille O'Neal once famously said. That was the last time the Lakers were in San Antonio for the playoffs. Then Tim Duncan threw in a leaning jumper for the lead — and Derek Fisher and 0.4 followed. This time — with Fisher again involved — one bad call deserved another. This time the refs didn't see that a Fisher jumper had grazed the rim, not resetting the shot clock. This time the refs chose to look the other way when Fisher leaped and landed on Brent Barry. This time the Lakers deserved what they got. They clearly outplayed the Spurs."

Forum Blue and Gold (live blog): "I’ll gladly admit that that was a foul and Barry should have been shooting three free throws. But everyone knows you can’t count on the refs to blow any kind of whistle at the end of the game. They act like WWE-type contact is permissible at the end of games. But let me be the first to point out that the refs missed calls all night and this wasn’t the only call they missed. They missed that Duncan travel most noticeably and a bunch of other stuff. It’s sad a game has to end like that. Fisher needs to not foul from 30 feet away from the bucket. He’s got to get his head in the game when for Game 5."

Steve Dillbeck, LA Daily News: "It should seem clear to most basketball observers by now, the Lakers are the overall superior team, at least when focused. But the thing about watching youth develop is having to go through all those growing pains. All those wobbly moments, all those what-were-you-thinking moments? The Lakers should have won this without any crazy last-second dramatics, or being on the fortunate end of a non-call at the final buzzer. "There are obviously still some things we have to learn as a young ballclub," said Lakers coach Phil Jackson."

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  1. PeteRock
    1. Posted by PeteRock Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 pm EDT

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    AYE SPUD FANS! PLEASE DONT START CRYING ABOUT THE NON-CALL!!!
    There were non-calls all night and in the last few minutes the refs weren't calling anything on both ends of the floor. Barry tried to put the ball on the floor instead of shooting through the contact, that's on him. Also who the hell is Brent Barry to take that shot where was 'Ginobli the Beak' The spuds lost and that is it for your title run, back to the drawing board. Don't come in here and whine about it please....
  2. Sharon M
    2. Posted by Sharon M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:02 pm EDT

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    Kobe is the best of the best period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  3. Tha
    3. Posted by Tha Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:36 pm EDT

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    there was a foul. not a shooting foul though. Barry was this dribbling. So 2 shots, they go to overtime.
    Lakers would have still won in overtime.
  4. Lee
    4. Posted by Lee Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:55 pm EDT

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    WOW! First of all, maybe it was a foul, but Brent Barry was not foul in the act of shooting - he put the ball back on the court first. He also didn't sell the foul - he leaned backward, he should of leaned toward Fisher. If the foul was called, it wouldn't be for three shots. Also, did we not see Derek Fisher's shot that hit the rim? If the refs called that, then the game would have been over. Kobe could have either ran out the clock or taken a foul. The refs called the shot an airball in which Kobe had only 2-seconds to take the shot - now that was a bad call, too. With two bad non-calls, I believe that the Lakers won the game outright. Who hustled more? Who outplayed who? GO LAKERS!!!
  5. Trennis
    5. Posted by Trennis Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 pm EDT

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    L.A. out played them and kobe did'nt get to go to the freethrow line.Do'nt cry over spilled milk.
    L.A. Champs!
  6. Robert
    6. Posted by Robert Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    Go Lakers, finish 'em off in five.
  7. toontownclown
    7. Posted by toontownclown Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Laker's game face is on,so they are ready for whoever comes out of the East. We are going to have to teach in a hurry ,Pau Gasol's ability to be stronger around the basket and it's "OK" to dunk the fricking ball.
  8. Robert
    8. Posted by Robert Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    Go Lakers, finish 'em off in five.
  9. toontownclown
    9. Posted by toontownclown Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Laker's game face is on,so they are ready for whoever comes out of the East. We are going to have to teach in a hurry ,Pau Gasol's ability to be stronger around the basket and it's "OK" to dunk the fricking ball. Odom & mandovich to stay focused fo the whole game,that being said,we will have a be a better matchup against the bullies from the East.
  10. JON W
    10. Posted by JON W Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Why is no one talking about the goaltending call that they gave Odem, putting the Spurs w/in 2 pts. He clearly hit the ball before it hit the backboard. The refs also missed the Fisher shot that grazed the rim forcing the Kobster to take a wild fadeaway jumper. The shot clock should have been reset result of either of those calls going for the Lakers, Game Over! 3-1 Baby Yaaaaaaaaaaaah!
  11. mark i
    11. Posted by mark i Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 pm EDT

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    If "48 Minutes of Hell" was a dog, it would be a Chi-Wa-Wa. If there were a considerable "Lakers v. Celtics" conspiracy, Kobe Bryant would have taken more than ZERO free throws last night. The Spurs are a physical team and Kobe is their defensive focus who happens to go inside a lot. The absence of fouls is inconceivable. Kobe was legitimately fouled at least three times and he got about six of those borderline bumps that usually send him to the line. But no whistles at all.
    But hey, forget the no-calls on Kobe, Duncan's travels, Fisher's un-noticed rim contact, the fact that the predictably ultra-dull matchups of Spurs/Nets, Spurs/Pistons, and Spurs/Cavs have all happened in between the "corrupt and fixed" Lakers threepeat (Lord, you haters are too much...) and the fact that Boston and Detroit are tied 2-2 with Detroit seeming to have momentum...it's all a CONSPIRACY!!! It's going to be a 7-game Lakers/Celtics ratings bonanza and all the games will go to double OT because the NBA has a deal with George Bush and the six old men living in a cave who run the world.
    PLEASE. The refs who did cheat only did it for their own gambling purposes, not for some wacko agenda of Stern's. Fixing the outcome of a game is clumsy and difficult. Give the conspiracy theories a rest, Agent Mulder. Stern can't even get the Sonics out of Seattle smoothly when no one outside that city is paying attention, you think he can put one over during the most-watched games of the year?
  12. Rob
    12. Posted by Rob Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    Let's not count our chickens before they hatch Lakers fans. Remember, we had a 3-1 lead over the Suns a couple of years ago only to lose in 7. Let get this last one! GO LAKERS!!!
  13. Older_than_Moses_Shaq
    13. Posted by Older_than_Moses_Shaq Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    The Spurs got so many calls before the non-call, it may have just been a make-up call not to call it. The game shouldn't have been that close and wouldn't have been had they called it the same for both teams.
  14. Rob
    14. Posted by Rob Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    The officiating was a bit suspect througout the entire game; the Duncan travel(4 steps), Bowen hacking Kobe all game long, Duncan setting illegal picks, Odom fouling Parker on that fast break, Fishers shot that actually hit the rim and the Berry/Fisher contact. The thing iss the first 47 min 58 sec of the game were called for the SPURS and the last 2 secs went the Lakers way. Which one do you SPURS fans b!tch about??? The last 2 secs!!! Weak, just like your team. The NBA tried to give this game to the Spurs but the refs can't make shots for them too!
  15. rudy s
    15. Posted by rudy s Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:53 pm EDT

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    Barry forgot to flop!!!!!!
  16. E Slick
    16. Posted by E Slick Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:02 pm EDT

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    Sure it was a foul...however, regardless of the ill advised shot by Kobe...regardless of the two missed ree throws by Gasol...the Spurs should never have gotten the ball back if the Refs had not missed the call on the other end when D Fish's shot grazed the rim...the Refs gave the Spurs plenty of opportunities to win the game with all the calls that went there way throughout the game...and here is a question, when in the history of the NBA has a player like Kobe not gone to the foul line in a game of this magnitude...Kobe, Odom and Gasol were fouled on numerous plays throughout the game that were not called...but the younger quicker more athletic and talented team won as should have been...even Pop said he would not have blew the whistle on the last play because he knows the Spurs were the recipients of favorable calls all night long and it would have been obvious to all fans...also Duncan holds and pushes off for most rebounds...no calls by the refs...Duncan is on the down side and he walked terribly on that dunk...so Spurs pass the baton your time has passed...GO LAKERS!!!
  17. primate13
    17. Posted by primate13 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 pm EDT

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    It's amazing to me how many of these blog knobs are calling that last play a foul.
    Actually, it was a foul - a traveling foul that should have gone against Barry, that clearly came before the contact with Fisher.
  18. the jackal
    18. Posted by the jackal Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    Go Lakers!!!!!!! From The OC yeah baby
  19. LA PV!
    19. Posted by LA PV! Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:55 pm EDT

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    Lets all take a deeeeep breath and exhale...........
    Lakers in 5 nuff said......
  20. Busboys4me
    20. Posted by Busboys4me Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    There were numerous factors that resulted in the final score last night; missed calls, bad plays (by the Lakers), and age catching up with the Spurs. The Spurs have been an opportunistic, generic replication of the 1980's Celtics. They were professional, borderline illegal, pragmatic robots who won games and championships. Larry Legend talked and walked the walk but the Chief and Mchale went about their games the same way Duncan does his. But as with everything else in sports, age catches up to everyone, even legends.
    The Spurs were an old team that the Suns should have beaten last year, but they (the Suns) got rattled and couldn't steady themselves. They had no pressence. The Lakers have been rattled this post season. Three times by Utah (the last being the comeback that almost was), and two times so far by San Antonio. They just haven't faltered the same way that the Suns did. Give Kobe his props he won't let his team surrender. Walton claims he didn't need Kobe to yell at him, but I'll be darned if he didn't make his shots after Kobe verbally bitc*-slapped him. Kobe also gets his rasberries for his last decision sequence - racing down the court instead of burning clock, traveling, and then the ill-advised shot attempt all in one play). Magic, Bird, nor MJ would ever make those mistakes at that juncture.
    The Spurs have been ready to fall but New Orleans was too NEW (inexperience cost them game 7) and the Suns blew their chance by first letting Kurt Thomas go and losing their size and toughness. They made it 100 times worse by getting the Big Cactus and not being true to the Matrix. They finally had the parts for the formula to work and gave up on it!! They had the best record in the West prior to the Gasol trade, why tinker? Now the Lakers have the chance to show the new generation what a dynasty looks like. Welcome home boys, we've been expecting you.
    Signed,
    The Laker Nation
  21. Busboys4me
    21. Posted by Busboys4me Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    There were numerous factors that resulted in the final score last night; missed calls, bad plays (by the Lakers), and age catching up with the Spurs. The Spurs have been an opportunistic, generic replication of the 1980's Celtics. They were professional, borderline illegal, pragmatic robots who won games and championships. Larry Legend talked and walked the walk but the Chief and Mchale went about their games the same way Duncan does his. But as with everything else in sports, age catches up to everyone, even legends.
    The Spurs were an old team that the Suns should have beaten last year, but they (the Suns) got rattled and couldn't steady themselves. They had no pressence. The Lakers have been rattled this post season. Three times by Utah (the last being the comeback that almost was), and two times so far by San Antonio. They just haven't faltered the same way that the Suns did. Give Kobe his props he won't let his team surrender. Walton claims he didn't need Kobe to yell at him, but I'll be darned if he didn't make his shots after Kobe verbally bitc*-slapped him. Kobe also gets his rasberries for his last decision sequence - racing down the court instead of burning clock, traveling, and then the ill-advised shot attempt all in one play). Magic, Bird, nor MJ would ever make those mistakes at that juncture.
    The Spurs have been ready to fall but New Orleans was too NEW (inexperience cost them game 7) and the Suns blew their chance by first letting Kurt Thomas go and losing their size and toughness. They made it 100 times worse by getting the Big Cactus and not being true to the Matrix. They finally had the parts for the formula to work and gave up on it!! They had the best record in the West prior to the Gasol trade, why tinker? Now the Lakers have the chance to show the new generation what a dynasty looks like. Welcome home boys, we've been expecting you.
    Signed,
    The Laker Nation
  22. SPURS GO HOME!!!
    22. Posted by SPURS GO HOME!!! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    Hey, where's partypooper??? Got a question to ask. How was that coffee? LOL!
  23. jakk_vr
    23. Posted by jakk_vr Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    Its clear Lakers won that game 4 Spurs try to snatch but it wont happen as saying goes righteous is always wins
  24. jakk_vr
    24. Posted by jakk_vr Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    Lakers was the best team in the West as they are the best record in the elimation no doubt they gonna take the west cahmpionship and probably Celtics has no match to Lakers

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