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The Clippers added some White Chocolate to their diet and backcourt yesterday by signing veteran guard Jason Williams to a one-year contract. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about the deal ...

Clips Nation: "We know that Jason Williams can play. He'll be a good enough backup who is a great ballhandler and he can hit shots. His spectacular days are behind him, and he's now an experienced, journeyman PG who can hit some shots and move the ball around, a full cut above Brevin Knight and Dan Dickau. With Davis, Camby, Kaman and Mobley all liable to get banged up here and there or worse, the Clips have made a concerted effort to fill out the roster with guys who have been starters and scorers and have shown that they can fill in if one of the rotation players goes down. Maybe Dunleavy is just challenging Hollinger to come up with new reasons for criticizing the Clippers bench and overall roster."

ClipperBlog.com: "Not sure what this means, other than the Clippers have determined after years of Brunson, Parker, et al, that you can never have too many point guards. Williams hasn't been effective for a few seasons now. Last year with Miami, he shot below 40% from the field, and hasn't averaged more than two FTA/G since his second year in the league. He's an awful defender, and one of the worst rebounders in the game. But as sentient beings go, he's a better option than Smush Parker — his turover and assist rates confirm that."

Hardwood Paroxysm: "... the move is a solid one by the Clips. Williams doesn't have what it takes to be a starting point guard anymore in my book, but he tends to get a lot of unwarranted hate. All in all, he's really not that bad of a player, and picking him up as a backup PG for the veteran's minimum (not confirmed, but come on) is a sound move. The Clips are slowly amassing a short-term veteran army: Baron, Camby, Kaman, Mobley, Ricky Davis, Williams, Brian Skinner, Tim Thomas. And by the time 2010 rolls around? Baron and Kaman. Elgin may have done some dumb things in the past, but the Clippers are doing their best to hit a home run and stay competitive in the meantime."

Ira Winderman, South Florida Sun-Sentinel: "And then there were two. The Heat's dramatic overhaul from its 2006 NBA championship team continued Thursday, with point guard Jason Williams signing with the Clippers as a free agent. The move leaves only guard Dwyane Wade and forward Udonis Haslem under contract from the team that delivered the franchise's lone title."

Ziller, FanHouse: "White Chocolate will turn 33 before Thanksgiving, and I assume he's signed up for the veteran's minimum (less than $1.5 million, with the league pitching in half the amount). It's not a bad get — swear to blog, J-Wil's still better than [Jason] Hart. Not a ringing endorsement. Not a breathing endorsement, actually. (I'm sorry, Jason H. Big love. Kind-of.) J-Wil's problem is his loss of quickness — he's turned into a pull-up/spot-up three-ball shooter, because he can't convert more than 45% of his twos. The fellow who got to the rim at will died a long time ago."

Dime: "Back in 2000, if you had put Baron Davis and Jason Williams on the same NBA squad, it would have been like one of those Jason Kidd/Steve Nash or Mark Price/Kevin Johnson deals: Both guys would be too good to share the PG duties, so one would eventually have to be traded. Eight years later, it’s not that kind of party. Baron is clearly the superstar and White Chocolate is clearly the backup. Plus both are players who you hope to get maybe 65 games out of before the injuries start coming …"

Lonnie White, LA Times: "By signing Williams, the Clippers basically eliminated themselves from re-signing point guard Shaun Livingston, who still has not been cleared for basketball as he recovers from a knee injury suffered in February 2007. Livingston, who did not receive a qualifying offer from the Clippers after the season, recently turned down a reported one-year guaranteed deal from the team. 'At this point and time, we had to move on,' Baylor said about re-signing Livingston. 'Shaun is not ready to make a commitment.'"

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  1. The Wiz
    1. Posted by The Wiz Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    J Wills definitely has some sweet moves and can make some great passes...definitely a good pick up for clipper nation.
  2. hans k
    2. Posted by hans k Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    The Clippers are doing a nice job of rebuilding. Not sure they get the right players (Williams, Davis) to knit a team.. But at least they're doing something..
  3. mark i
    3. Posted by mark i Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 pm EDT

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    A good signing. Williams is good enough to get starts but not good enough to be a starter. When Baron INEVITABLY misses 10-25 games (INEVITABLY) El Choco Blanco can just slide right in without dropping down to a backup who's good for about 7-2-5 a night.
  4. mark i
    4. Posted by mark i Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 pm EDT

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    Did I spell "inevitably" right? Probably not. Doesn't look right.
  5. Nookiez
    5. Posted by Nookiez Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    Hope to see J-Will's explosiveness back.
  6. Devine
    6. Posted by Devine Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Moore's point about the possibility of setting up a ton of cleared salary in the summer of '10 is interesting, if only because more teams following that train of thought means more teams in danger of losing the musical chairs game when the top four or five free agents going elsewhere ... the fight to sign the A talents (or, more to the point, to avoid having to sign the C talents) could wind up being like the NBA's "Death Race."
    By the way, "a full cut above Brevin Knight and Dan Dickau" sounds like it has epitaph potential.
  7. mcwelk
    7. Posted by mcwelk Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    My Hart breaks.
  8. da7a
    8. Posted by da7a Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    Yess.. my favorite PG is playing in my City!!!
    Go Clippers.
  9. Mr. J
    9. Posted by Mr. J Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 pm EDT

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    I love my Clippers and their lossing a$$es!! But this is like finding a penny on the floor.
  10. Adrian Bermudez
    10. Posted by Adrian Bermudez Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    jwill! even at the downhill of his career i think he still has some left in the tank..baron and jwill plus mobley, 3guard lineup with kaman and camby..we'll still be watchin our beloved clips come may '09.
  11. Myles
    11. Posted by Myles Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:31 pm EDT

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    Clips did a grade A job of rebuilding after their two blows. They're definitely in the mix for the playoffs, but are going to have some chemistry problems over minutes..definitely.
  12. The California Kid
    12. Posted by The California Kid Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:03 pm EDT

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    Good move. J Will will be a capable backup PG who will look to score, something they lacked in the backcourt on the second unit last year. Plus they need his energy off the bench. But sorry they couldn't come to terms with Shaun. That may come back to haunt them. I liked that they have cleaned house. Time for a fresh start. Who is this Novak guy? Any potential from him?
  13. jazzbooksfood
    13. Posted by jazzbooksfood Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:54 pm EDT

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    When will people stop this idiotic "J-Will" & "T-Mac" crap?
  14. Hube aka Short
    14. Posted by Hube aka Short Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    J- Will still being a good player under Riley rules he become less flashy but if Dunleavy give him da freedom 2 run da Clips, he gonna back to be da same Jwill of Memphis, I like da Idea to move Baron to da SG spot, like Iverson did in Philly with Snow at PG in this case Jwill...do your thing Jason !!!!
  15. eddie
    15. Posted by eddie Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    J-Will is the truth. Likely one of the best point guards of the mid-90's to 2007+. He's so good. Consistent, what a great turnover ration this kid has. Great pick up for the Clips for sure. I love it. J-Will is older now because he has a questionable off-season work ethic, but he can still run a team like Napoleon ran France.
  16. eddie
    16. Posted by eddie Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    ratio
  17. rocketman312
    17. Posted by rocketman312 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:47 pm EDT

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    With J Will on the team the Clippers are now worth watching. J Will makes the game exciting. Go Jason!!!
  18. thatkindofday
    18. Posted by thatkindofday Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 pm EDT

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    #14 touched on this, but Riley's coaching style doesn't really fit Jason Williams' game anyway. His most successful years came when he was driving in the lane and dishing out for the three. He may have lost a couple of steps, but there are enough defensively lacking point gaurds in the west to help him get more lanes. He may fit into Dunleavy's faster pace better as well.
  19. Mike
    19. Posted by Mike Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    Us Heat fans wish JW well.....but don't think he has anything left other than a back up role.
    He was a big part of me getting my ring!
  20. The Devil
    20. Posted by The Devil Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Clippers Roster:
    C - Kaman, Camby, D. Jordan
    PF - Skinner
    SF - Thornton, Thomas, Novak
    SG - Mobley, R. Davis, E. Gordon
    PG - B. Davis, J. Williams, Hart, M. Taylor
    Notice anything missing? Like a decent power forward? Considering they had 2 guys they could have signed for the minimum (Fazekas and Paul Davis) and one guy they already had pretty cheap (Josh Powell), it doesn't make any sense to me why they would throw more money at another short guard who can't rebound. Especially when you look at the fact that Kaman and Camby are both injury-prone and Jordan is a rookie who's expected to be a project. They now have 6 guards at 6'3" or under, and Ricky Davis is only 6'5". Baron and J-Will are also injury-prone. Maybe they're going to pull a San Antonio. Put everyone on the injured list and tank the season so they can have the #1 pick next year. But Ricky Rubio is expected to be #1, and they already have 4 PG's, so that doesn't make sense. Oh wait, I forgot I was talking about the Clippers.
  21. drizzle
    21. Posted by drizzle Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:25 pm EDT

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    ^^^^^#20, I think Camby and Kaman were projected to start together with one being center and the other being power forward. At least that's what I thought and so did camby, when he said so in his press conference. He said he wanted to play center but Kaman could be center when they play phoenix (against shaq).
  22. nyc point forward
    22. Posted by nyc point forward Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    Williams is an over rated over hyped bum. Always has been and always will be. He is the only player that I have seen go 1 for 11 from the field and still end up on sportscenter. I wonder why...hmmmmm. Anyone who thinks that a guy that never averaged more than 14 a game and shot less than 37% from the 3 pt line and 41% from the field (except for 1 season) has ever been a viable player does not know anything about basketball. He is lucky that they never kept stats for how many times the person that he was guarding burned him or scored 25+ pts per game. This signing shouldn't have even made the news -- and it shouldn't be a surprise, coming from a third rate franchise like the Clippers.
  23. Brian P
    23. Posted by Brian P Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 pm EDT

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    ricky davis is 6'7 smarts
  24. The Devil
    24. Posted by The Devil Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:04 pm EDT

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    I've seen Ricky Davis in person and he's definitely not 6'7". Standing next to D-Wade last year they looked almost the same height. He's LISTED at 6'7". Yahoo has him at 226 lbs, and NBA.Com has him at 205. So much for consistency. By the way, what a great contribution you made to this blog #23. Calling out someone for being two inches off on Ricky Davis's height. At least the other guy had something intelligent to say. I agree with him. The Camby/Kaman experiment is too risky with both guys being so injury prone. That still leaves them with only Jordan and Skinner to back up the 4&5. On top of that, neither player is very well suited for the forward position. Kaman had turnover problems against centers last year, now you're playing him against forwards. Camby can block shots alright, but do you want his slow feet stepping out on jump shooters? No, you don't. Not like he would anyway. Jason Williams isn't a bad backup player to have, but now you wonder why they signed Taylor and traded for Hart.
  25. The Devil
    25. Posted by The Devil Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:04 pm EDT

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    By the way, Ziller's full of it if he thinks J-Will is better than Jason Hart. Hart defends, takes care of the ball, and more importantly, he can still get GOOD shots. Last time he was with the Clippers he put up some nice complimentary numbers.

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