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Gary Washburn, Boston Globe: "Chris Paul is wily enough to understand when he's being prodded and provoked, and that happened twice in a 30-minute period last night at TD Garden. First, Paul walked over to shake hands and exchange congratulations with Paul Pierce(notes) following the Celtics' rugged 97-87 win over Paul's New Orleans Hornets. In the midst of that conversation, Paul was approached by Celtics guard Rajon Rondo(notes) who said some unkind words to his point guard counterpart. Paul shot back at Rondo and the two had to be separated. Rondo was ushered to the tunnel by Celtics director of security Phil Lynch, while Paul continued his testy conversation with Celtics assistant coach Tom Thibodeau, and the two were seen yelling at each other while Paul slowly walked to toward the Hornets' tunnel. It was the culmination of a passionate clash between two under-25 point guards who each have a point of contention with the other. While many NBA players knuckle-knock, hug, and share laughs after games, hardly fostering any rivalry, it appears Paul and Rondo have an actual disdain for each other. [...] The situation began when both were assessed technicals after tangling under the basket with 6:10 left in the second quarter."

Chris Tomasson, NBA FanHouse: "With Monday the deadline to sign a contract extension, Memphis forward Rudy Gay(notes) said it will take a deal of about $50 million over five years to get his signature. 'I think I should be in that range,' Gay told FanHouse before his team's 133-123 loss to Denver on Sunday night at the Pepsi Center. However, Gay said the Grizzlies have yet to offer a deal worth as much as $50 million over five years. 'Yeah, you're right,' he said. Gay said his agent, Jeff Austin, told him Friday it's '50-50' an extension will be reached by the deadline, and he planned to talk with him again late Sunday night. Gay said he's putting much of the responsibility upon Austin to come up with a suitable contract and had told Austin he only wanted to hear from him in recent days if a deal was close. 'If it's not 50, if it's more, I stand behind him,' said Gay, speaking of Austin being able to negotiate a contract in excess of $50 million over five years. 'I'm not going to turn it down.'"

RealGM/Orlando Sentinel: Raptors forward Hedo Turkoglu(notes) says that he wanted to stay with the Magic, but the team's offer was unsatisfactory. Turkoglu, who was a free agent, landed in Toronto via sign-and-trade this offseason after helping lead Orlando to the NBA Finals. 'I was knocking and knocking on the door, waiting for an answer,' he told the Orlando Sentinel. 'I couldn't stand in front of the door forever. It's business. I hated to go.' Turkoglu says he was upset after having an 'awkward' meeting with the Magic this summer that included a low-ball offer. He says the Magic offered him a four-year deal worth $34 million, with the team insisting on holding the option on a fourth season. 'They said I had a good year, it's a good market for you and we hope you get some money,' Turkoglu added. 'It was awkward. After that, my agent [Lon Babby] looked into other teams. Then they [the Magic] didn't return our calls. They made some kind of offer. ... It was frustrating.'"

Associated Press: "Lakers forward Pau Gasol(notes) is getting frustrated by the slow pace of his recovery from a strained right hamstring after missing his third straight game Sunday night. Gasol has been out of action for three weeks since injuring his leg early in the defending NBA champions' preseason schedule. He didn't suit up for Los Angeles' game against Atlanta, putting Lamar Odom(notes) in the starting lineup again. 'We've done all the right treatment and rehab, and now we've just got to be patient,' Gasol said. 'It's not going away, and it was hard for a few days. I didn't expect it to be this way, but we're doing what we have to do.' [...] The Lakers haven't decided when Gasol will return, but he plans to make their upcoming road trip to Oklahoma City and Houston. Coach Phil Jackson doesn't mind if Gasol sits out both games, but he expects his starting power forward to be back fairly soon."

Marcus Thompson II, Contra Costa Times: "An MRI revealed no damage in Warriors backup center Ronny Turiaf's(notes) left knee, but he is out with a sprain. Turiaf left Friday's game against Phoenix early in the fourth quarter and didn't return. He said he went for an offensive rebound and felt his leg give out a sharp pain. Listed as day-to-day, Turiaf said his knee feels better, and he didn't rule out playing Wednesday against visiting Memphis. 'This is an injury that I played with last year towards the end, so I am familiar with it,' Turiaf said, 'I just have to stay on top of it because that is something you have to be careful with. For the position that I play, I need to have power in my legs to play defense and be successful.'"

Mike Ganter, Toronto Sun: "The H1N1 virus hasn't had the impact in Orlando it is having in the GTA, but no one is taking chances these days with any kind of flu bug. Magic starting forward Mickael Pietrus(notes) came down with something between Saturday's practice and yesterday's game against the Raptors, and the Magic decided to put him on a plane and send him back home. 'I think in normal circumstances he could have stayed, maybe even played,' Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy said, 'but these aren't normal circumstances. We'll err on the side of caution.' Van Gundy said he didn't think Pietrus had contracted H1N1, but felt it was important for the team to be ultra vigilant in protecting its players. 'If something happens and he's feeling better tomorrow, we'll fly him to Detroit (Orlando's next stop).'"

Mike Bresnahan, L.A. Times: "Jordan Farmar now has extra motivation, should he need it. So does Adam Morrison(notes). The Lakers did not give contract extensions to either fourth-year player, making them both restricted free agents in July. The Lakers had until today to reach an agreement with each player. Farmar, 23, will make $1.9 million this season and Morrison, 26, will make $5.2 million. 'I think I have a lot to offer. I know I can do so much more than I'm doing right now,' said Farmar, who is averaging 4.7 points and 1.7 assists through three games this season. 'If they really, really want me, they probably would have signed me. It's tough. I feel that I've gone out there a lot and shown what I have, with the opportunity that I've got. It's my job to try to prove it to them.' The Lakers have the right to match any offer Farmar or Morrison signs next summer."

Jason Quick, The Oregonian: "Nobody is ready to declare Greg Oden(notes) a leader yet. Not after one game. But what transpired here Sunday could be the start of the season's most important development. It could be when Greg Oden came out of his shell. When he became a little nasty. Very much intimidating. And an immensely powerful force on this team. It was so startling, so different, that Roy and Travis Outlaw(notes) were taking turns imitating Oden's deep growls at teammates during the game. 'TRAV! KEEP PLAYING! COME ON!' Outlaw said, mustering all the baritone he could from his stomach. 'MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS; LET'S GO!' Roy said, his voice deep and gravelly. It started before the opening tip. Oden went separately to Steve Blake(notes) and Roy, reminding them of last year's 102-93 loss here in a game that was out of hand by halftime. Then as the team took the court for the opening tip, he extended his hand into the chest of LaMarcus Aldridge(notes) to stop the Blazers power forward. He spoke closely to Aldridge, demonstratively pointing his finger at the court, at one point saying 'We can't have it!'"

K.C. Johnson, Chicago Tribune: "OK, so the official recruitment period doesn't begin until July 1. And there's no guarantee Wade will leave Miami or the Bulls won't engineer an in-season trade — similar to February's acquisition of Miller and John Salmons(notes) — that will affect their salary-cap situation. It also should be noted no Bulls official has said Wade will be the team's No. 1 priority next summer if he becomes a free agent. Still, as it stands, the Bulls are poised to be one of approximately seven teams with significant salary-cap space to pursue free agents in an unprecedented class that could include Wade, LeBron James(notes), Chris Bosh(notes), Carlos Boozer(notes), Amare Stoudemire and Joe Johnson(notes). NBA officials are prohibited from discussing prospective free agents. But one Eastern Conference executive, speaking on the condition of anonymity, talked glowingly of a potential Rose-Wade pairing. 'I've heard some people say both need the ball in their hands too much to be effective," the executive said. "I don't see that as an issue at all. Wade doesn't get credit for how well he moves without the ball. And great players always find a way to make it work.'"

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  1. C
    1. Posted by C Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:00 am EST

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    Hedo is well worth that 4 year 34 million offer. low ball offer my behind. No need for Air France when you have JJ Redick lighting it up. I dont even need to mention Ryan Anderson. i expect to see a post dedicated to him this week
  2. TO
    2. Posted by TO Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:13 am EST

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    stephon marbury is a better basketball player than gayjon rondo.
  3. Ol' Leather Pumpkin
    3. Posted by Ol' Leather Pumpkin Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:13 am EST

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    "knuckle-knock?"
    i hope the paul/rondo storyline plays out over the year. that would be so awesome.
  4. curtis
    4. Posted by curtis Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:27 am EST

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    Rudy Gay ain't worth $10 million a year. For 17 points and 6 rebounds with little else, I'd pay $6.5 to $8 million.
  5. J.E. Skeets
    5. Posted by J.E. Skeets Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:45 am EST

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    rondo will be raped by paul anyday
  6. sammyzaba
    6. Posted by sammyzaba Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:12 am EST

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    ryan anderson FTW.
  7. Celtics Girl Toy
    7. Posted by Celtics Girl Toy Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:42 am EST

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    @TO
    Are u friggin serious??? Marbury cant even compete with Rondo at this point. Marbury is a Vaseline finger sucking, ode to Michael Jackcson, mirror-dancing, crackhead conversating Coney island idiot. he onli even exists because his 2 biggest fans are himself and u. His time has come and gone.
    Marbury over Rondo???? Child Please.
  8. the Voice of Reason
    8. Posted by the Voice of Reason Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:15 am EST

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    Celtics Girl Toy........you got it. Don't even try to reason with the fools though, they are hopeless. Do what I do and come here daily for the comedic value of the opinions of the morons. It's no different than going to Walmart to look at the wack-jobs!
  9. ROY4MVP
    9. Posted by ROY4MVP Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:25 am EST

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    Did anyone catch KG barking at Brown tonight? What a jerkoff! And who does Rondo think he is? Just because he's got all these vets around him he's acting like he's a Detroit Bad Boy in there? And I won't even go to Pierce who just pisses overconfidence. I'm starting to hate this Celtics team.
  10. Bizzle
    10. Posted by Bizzle Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:38 am EST

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    Rondo has some serious issues he needs to deal with.There is something seriously wrong with that guy.
  11. Bizzle
    11. Posted by Bizzle Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:40 am EST

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    #8 You go to Wal-Mart just to look at the wack-jobs? The Fuc% is wrong with you? Only crazy people go to wal-mart just to look at other crazy people. what a jackass.
  12. the Voice of Reason
    12. Posted by the Voice of Reason Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:48 am EST

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    A i never said i go to walmart JUST to look at the wackjobs, your assuming way too much. and B if and when your opinion ever has any value to me whatsoever I will ask for it. But don't hold your breath. and C thank you for your opinion anyway, as i said in my original post, the comedic value of the morons is PRICELESS!
  13. Jason
    13. Posted by Jason Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:30 pm EST

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    NO is not even on the same level as the C's. CP needs to just STFU and take his lossing A$$ back to the locker room and take a cold shower.
  14. ballers inc
    14. Posted by ballers inc Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:38 pm EST

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    Wade and Rose all Chicago backcourt pencil the BULLS in for the 2010 NBA finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  15. mikey
    15. Posted by mikey Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:47 pm EST

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    Good for Rondo, he will just get better too..
  16. masterload
    16. Posted by masterload Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:08 pm EST

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    Ur an Idiot for saying Marbury is better than Rondo!!
  17. Jesus R
    17. Posted by Jesus R Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:13 pm EST

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    I'd like to see what cp3 would do if he played for the current celtics and Rondo would do the same with the current hornets? Yeah, rondo runs his mouth because he has the big three behind him, who does cp3 have? D West and who else? Have you guys seen what T Chandler is up to, yeah, no more easy lob dunks for his ass. Rondo would have to rely on his feathery jump shot to keep the defense honest or else create for the team of nobodys that the hornets employ. Yeah, Rondo work on your jump shot, see video of cp3, and shut or lucky ass up.
  18. radhika
    18. Posted by radhika Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:14 pm EST

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    We all know Chris Paul is a class act basketball player and best point guard in league for years to come! ... So exactly what was Rondo thinking?
  19. Anthony
    19. Posted by Anthony Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:31 pm EST

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    Its called trash talk. That was what Rondo was doing. Anyone ever heard of trash talk?? Its part of the NBA game. Weak minded people fall victim to trash talk. And it effects their play. Go ahead keep hating on the Celtics. You'll be hating them even more when they win the championship.
  20. John J
    20. Posted by John J Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:49 pm EST

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    thats right, f#$% chris paul, #13 post is right , this sucker needs to suck up the losses and move on, he is a sorry fu@#$%g loser and clearly thinks he is a super hero, well you know what ?----f#$k chris paul.
  21. Wallyh J
    21. Posted by Wallyh J Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:09 pm EST

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    Would've, Could've, should've.. Paul can run his mouth all he wants! Rondo is the starting PG for the Boston Celtic,so stop crying like a lillte [profane] and play ball! If you don't like your team, then play out your contract and leave! Nobody is forcing you to play with your mediocre Hornets!
    Rondo could've easily been a bust, but he worked his ass up! I never thought he would hold this starting position with all these Hall of Famers and the pressure! But he did and not too many PGs in this league can do that! So I give him all the credit in the world for holding his own among the Elite!
    The fact is Paul has no Championship and plays on a mediocre team that he doesn't make any better! If he doesn't like this fact, he can jump off a bridge! WE COUDLN'T CARE LESS!!
  22. Anthony
    22. Posted by Anthony Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:23 pm EST

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    Way to put it Wallyh. No one is talking about how Chris Paul caused the skirmish when they picked up double techs. Paul just wouldn't let go of Rondo's arm. You can clearly see it on the replay. And you know why Paul did that? Because they were getting beat. This NO team is mediocre at best. David West was a non-factor. And it looks like your best scorer is coming off the bench (Peja). Have fun bottom feeding in the West New Orleans.
  23. Ceaser
    23. Posted by Ceaser Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:10 pm EST

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    Why the hell yall bashin my man CP3??? Im a Celts fan and I happen to think CP3 is Top PG in the league with Kidd/Nash. Rondo jus happen to be playing with guys who were 3 of the best players of the last decade so hes a lil more blessed. Rondo came to him talkin [profane] and CP3 didnt like it being the "Better" PG. Chris Paul reminds me of A.I. in so many ways. Doing alot more with less. But if this kid gets a star or even if they kept JR Smith he might have been in the Finals by now.
  24. Anthony
    24. Posted by Anthony Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:26 pm EST

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    I'm bashing on CP3 because he tried following the Celtics into their locker room. What kinda sh!t is that honestly? Thats taking a page straight outta Ron Artests book. Just stupid. If Paul can't take trash talk then get outta basketball. I lost a lot of respect for him last night. That said, yes Paul is the best PG in the NBA. But he has some close competition behind him.
  25. fulltiltfulltime54
    25. Posted by fulltiltfulltime54 Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:57 pm EST

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    BOO HOO poor CP3. CP3 couldn't play on the Celtics cuz the best part of his game is scoring and the C's don't need another scorer.
    Championships:
    Rondo 1
    Chris Paul 0

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