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Robert Dvorchak, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "Never one to shy away from giving his opinion on controversial subjects, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said steroids could be used to help athletes recover from injuries as long as they are prescribed by doctors and that it could be proved there would be no long-term damage. At a University of Pittsburgh forum yesterday, the Pittsburgh native responded to a question about the 10-game suspension of Orlando's Rashard Lewis(notes) during last season's NBA playoffs. 'I'll get killed for saying this,' Cuban replied, 'but I'm not so against steroids if they're administered under proper supervision and there is no long-term damage.' He said that steroids, which are banned by all the major sports and are also illegal to possess without a doctor's prescription, may benefit those recovering from surgery. Cuban said he hoped his comments would initiate a conversation on a topic that is considered radioactive. If the proper medical criteria are met, he added, 'why wouldn't we' use them for medical reasons."

Joe Freeman, The Oregonian: "These are curious times for the Trail Blazers. On the one hand, they possess a roster bursting with talent that is seemingly poised for a memorable postseason run. On the other hand, a ho-hum exhibition season has hardly reassured anyone that this potential will translate into success. [...] After an even-worse-than-it-sounds 108-97 loss to the Utah Jazz before 19,696 at the Rose Garden, a fuming McMillan criticized his team's effort, execution and will. 'Not good,' he said, summing up his team's lackluster performance. 'I think some of us think that we can flip a switch and that all of sudden, it's going to happen when the (season opener) comes. We got to get to work.' At the heart of the Blazers' struggles is on-court chemistry — there is none. The molding of new talent (namely free-agent pickups Andre Miller(notes) and Juwan Howard(notes) and the return of Martell Webster(notes)) with last season's key players has not gone smoothly."

Rick Bonnell, Charlotte Observer: "Minutes after the Charlotte Bobcats defeated the Milwaukee Bucks 94-87 Tuesday, coach Larry Brown announced starter Raja Bell(notes) has a torn ligament in his left wrist. If Bell chooses to have surgery, he'd miss up to four months in recovery. Bell plans to seek a second opinion from a Chicago hand specialist on whether surgery is warranted. In the alternative, Bell could try rest and rehabilitation. If that's successful, he'd be back on the court much sooner. 'It's a (decision) I won't take lightly. I've only had six or seven hours to digest' the latest diagnosis, Bell said. 'I know I've got a responsibility to the Bobcats.' He's also in a delicate situation contract-wise. Bell turned 33 last month and the Bobcats turned down his request last summer for an extension. What's worse? Sitting out most of the season or risk entering free agency as damaged goods?"

Eddie Sefko, Star-Telegram: "The Mavericks liked Nathan Jawai(notes), even while packing at least 280 pounds. But they didn't like him enough to pay nearly $1.5 million to keep him. The Australian, considered a nice project for the future, was traded to Minnesota on Tuesday for a future second-round draft pick. It's a distant future, too. In fact, it will be surprising if the Mavs ever see it. They'll probably use it as a sweetener for a trade in the future. What they accomplished with the trade was to get rid of a guaranteed contract. And while Mark Cuban had to write a check to Minnesota to cover Jawai's $735,000 salary this season, he won't have to pay an extra $735,000 in luxury tax."

Vince Ellis, Detroit Free Press: "Joe Dumars, president of basketball operations, has the best seat in the building when it comes to watching the Pistons practice. [...] While certain newcomers like rookie Jonas Jerebko(notes) have caught his eye, he has been doubly impressed with the passion new coach John Kuester has brought to training camp. 'I love his enthusiasm for the job,' Dumars said Tuesday. 'I think every player would tell you that's kind of defining who he is as a coach right now. His enjoyment of being the head coach is really refreshing to see. Someone embracing being the head coach the way he is ... it's been refreshing to see him walk out here and watch him work every day.' [...] Dumars said at Kuester's introductory news conference that the Pistons are in rebuilding mode, and he hasn't changed that assessment one week before the opener at Memphis. But Kuester has earned Dumars' confidence that the team will get better as the season progresses."

Frank Dell'Apa, The Boston Globe: "The Celtics have until Oct. 31 to extend Rondo's contract. Rondo could become a restricted free agent next year. Asked if the negotiations could become a distraction for Rondo, Rivers replied, "He had a better chance of that last year than this year. I think he's focused on winning. He understands he was part of a championship team. This year he can be the point guard that leads us to the championship - two completely different things. 'With that, all the spoils come, to the victor go the spoils, and I think he gets that. I don't care about [contract talks]. That will be something that will be handled. I'm not concerned about it. I don't think it will affect us. Last year it made more of an issue.' Rondo's incentive? 'To win,' Rivers said. 'If you don't win, then there's going to be problems with everybody. Again, I've talked very little to him about it, we've discussed it a little, but you can tell in his play that he's not [distracted].'"

Tim Buckley, Deseret News: "The Jazz still have received no indication whatsoever that veteran forward Matt Harpring(notes) plans to play again. Harpring, due to make $6.5 million this season, remains at home in Atlanta with chronic knee and ankle injuries that likely have prematurely ended his NBA career. 'Status quo,' Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor said Tuesday. 'Again, my assumption is just wait and see where he's at — and there comes a point in time when, probably, physically he will have to make a decision.' The decision to be made, specifically, is whether or not he'll attempt a comeback — and at this time it's not expected he will."

Michael Lee, The Washington Post: "In addition to improving to 4-3 in the preseason, the Wizards had to be encouraged with the progress of Antawn Jamison(notes), who started lifting weights for the first time before the game. Jamison suffered a shoulder subluxation last Wednesday in Cleveland and said he is slowly recovering the range of motion in his shoulder. 'Yeah, I've got my range of motion and can lift and things of that nature. Basketball-wise, the [medical and training staff] won't let me do any of that. But strength is up, and they're impressed as far as how fast I've been able to heal and how strong the shoulder is. Right now, it's me being patient as far as going along with the plan.' I asked if he's been able to shoot and Jamsion said, 'They wont let me shoot at all. You know I want to. They said wait.' Take your time."

RealGM/Star: "Chris Bosh doesn't want to see the Raptors change their game-day routine as some teams have this season. 'The schedule? It's fine,' Bosh told the Toronto Star. 'No sense messing with it.' The Knicks have stopped conducting morning shootarounds at home this season in favor of rest, while the Blazers have changed their typical departure times for road games. Others teams have pushed back practices on the days after home games to give the players more time to recuperate. 'I don't like being at the gym for an extended period of time. I don't like that sitting around and I don't like that idle time. I like to get in, do my job,' Bosh added."

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  1. Lajames W
    1. Posted by Lajames W Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 am EDT

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    Let the season start already.
  2. C
    2. Posted by C Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 am EDT

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    After leaving the forum yesterday, Cuban stopped at the UPMC to get checked for a concussion
  3. Jason
    3. Posted by Jason Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:43 am EDT

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    One thing I have learned over the years of following the Pistons is that the Detroit News and Free Press are in the pockets of the ownership/general manager. It comes out during player negotiations and whenever the team struggles and it is pinned on a coach. Criticism of Dumars does not come at a local level, with the trade off being the team is in bed with the writers and leaking info to the press at it's discretion.
  4. Jason
    4. Posted by Jason Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:48 am EDT

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    Also, Mark Cuban's steroids argument is the same one people have over Medical Marijuana. If something is shown to have a medical use and can be used properly with medical care than just because people have used it illegally and abusively in the past should not stop us from using it for legitimate medical purposes.
  5. Alfredo R
    5. Posted by Alfredo R Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:04 am EDT

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    Go over to TQC for the Vince/Hedo article from BenQ!!! SO tired of pundits saying The Magic are losing someone huge.
  6. curtis
    6. Posted by curtis Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:06 am EDT

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    I've used steroids for a medical condition so Cuban's point is valid. The problem is that the NBA will then have to establish what injuries make use of steroids legitimate and which ones don't meet the criteria. If that were to ever happen, expect complaints about unfair advantages since some players will be allowed to recover from injuries faster than others. Also, you can eventually find a doctor to prescribe you anything you want with the right cash incentive, so just imagine how malleable some MDs will be when they see the deep pockets of NBA teams trying to get a drug for their player.
  7. gaborik10m
    7. Posted by gaborik10m Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:45 am EDT

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    Somebody tell Nate to name a starting line-up, AND USE IT for the preseason. Maybe that would help chemistry.
  8. Lapo
    8. Posted by Lapo Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    somebody tell bosh that they should mess with it if he cant play defense
  9. sam spade
    9. Posted by sam spade Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:50 am EDT

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    It doesn't have to be anabolic or illegal steroids. It could be legal over the counter metabolic steroids. I just had back surgery. probably the same kind that D. Wade had. I hurt my back playing basketball years ago and a lypoma developed in two places on my back. I told the doctor before hand that i took over the counter steroids like Creatine, Ripped Fuel and DHEA. He had told not to take aspirin before the surgery. He told me if there were any complications he would administer antibiotics and inject me with anabolic steroids. He knew that i knew. So I have had a complete and speedy recovery. The items that are readily available to the average citizen should not be banned for professional athletes. Of course, i could never pass any of the testing done in pro sports.
  10. Missed Draft Defending Champ
    10. Posted by Missed Draft Defending Champ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:24 pm EDT

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    Here is why Mark's suggestion is a bad idea. Let's say players are administered league sanctioned steroids for quick recovery, and by off change the NBA player develops kidney cancer (which might be unrelated to steroid use) at age 55. The league could be found liable. It's not a good idea.
  11. judas
    11. Posted by judas Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:33 pm EDT

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    What are the scientifically proven bad effects of steroids? i really don't know.
    Pistons need to become one unit. Bynum, pass the ball already!
  12. mikez34
    12. Posted by mikez34 Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    Nevermind the fact that steroids are ILLEGAL. I don't mean illegal in the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc, I mean illegal in the United States. A type of steroids is occasionally prescribed for medical reasons, but that isn't the kind of steroids they are talking about here.
  13. who the hell?
    13. Posted by who the hell? Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    Cuban is an owner with very progressive views. He makes a very legitimate point about steroids, but you must consider his 2 main points before bashing him on this issue. If medical examiners can determine the long term effects of steroids, then why shouldn't it be prescribed as medication or therapy? Cuban isn't telling folks to take steroids, he is merely pointing out that with the medical communities assistance, perhaps legitimate and safe forms of steroids can be utilized to speed recovery. Cuban did qualify his statement by including "safetey" and "prescription" - nothing about over the counter or designer stuff - his intent has nothing to do with guys bulking up for the sake of bulking up.
  14. bball queen
    14. Posted by bball queen Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole Smith and countless others had "precriptions" written for their medical "needs". There are just too many unsavory doctors out there. It could easily get out of hand.
  15. sam spade
    15. Posted by sam spade Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:07 pm EDT

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    Metabolic steroids are in every thing. If you see commericals for medicines and they say that they don't have steroids in their products; it's because it's in everything. The active ingredient is magnesium stearate, which is a metabolic steroid. Check your medicine cabinet and see how many products you use that have it in it. It replaced Ephedra. There's a banned substance list that includes over the counter metabolic steroids that are readily available to the common citizen. The Kevin Williams/Pat Williams case that is still in court revolves around this. To my knowledge, every diet pill has magnesium stearate as it's active ingredient. You will test positive. But you're fat and only trying to lose weight. GNC would not be in business if the products that they sell were not safe and effective. Illegal anabolic steroids sure. Stuff you can buy at Safeway or anywhere else, no.
  16. justjason00
    16. Posted by justjason00 Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Odom did steroids in high school and yet he skinny like a bannana.. plus he soft as hell...he use to be stronger in high school due to the steroids use now he slowing down and his conditions sucks (profane).
  17. sam spade
    17. Posted by sam spade Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    Because these low doses of metabolic steroids everywhere. Everyone will live longer and have a higher quality of life. You saw recent the predictions of a booming segment of the populations that will be 100 years or old. This is just wave of the future and the modern wonder drug. some have mentioned Micheal Jackson and Anna Nicole Smith.
    In the past; you would medicate your problem. In the 70's and early 80's, there was the Valium scandals with the over prescribing of the drug. since the 90's; it's fix the problem with steroids, instead of being hooked on narcotic drugs.
  18. ShawnW
    18. Posted by ShawnW Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    I agree with #3 Jason in the regards to the Newspapers being in bed with Joe Dumars. Dumars may have done a great job before when the Pistons won the NBA Title. Or he just got lucky. The trade of Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets was the single biggest mistake that he has made. In that trade he got rid of the core of the team. The attitude of the team. The worst part of the whole ordeal with that isn't just that they got rid of Billups, but the fact that they brought in Iverson and didn't commit to him. Who the crap is Rodney Stuckey? The answer is "nobody!" Oh, and that brought in another great 2 guard in Ben Gordon. Why do the same thing again? It didn't work last year. Only way this makes sense is if they get rid of Hamilton. Who is past his prime anyways. Wake up Dumars, your team is falling apart.
  19. me
    19. Posted by me Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:24 pm EDT

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    wow
  20. mrtoki
    20. Posted by mrtoki Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:56 pm EDT

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    FYI... Anabolic steroids are Schedule III controlled substances, which means that they are LEGAL with a doctor's prescription. This puts them in the same category as other commonly prescribed drugs like Vicodin, Oxycodone, Percocet, Ritalin, Valium, Xanax, etc... In fact, steroids were added to the controlled substances list in 1990 against the wishes of the DEA, FDA, AMA, and NIDA, because of the Ben Johnson 1998 Seoul Olympics scandal.
  21. Evil
    21. Posted by Evil Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:00 pm EDT

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    Cuban is just a media starving @sshole who constantly talks out of his @ss just to keep him and his team in the media spotlight, since they plain SUCK.
  22. Farmer
    22. Posted by Farmer Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:02 am EDT

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    Lebron James is on steroids.
  23. thomas b
    23. Posted by thomas b Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:22 am EDT

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    i never thought i would ever say this in my life....but i agree 100% with Mark Cuban
  24. jeknight44
    24. Posted by jeknight44 Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:38 am EDT

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    Joe Dumars is a great GM....I have been hearing about how trading away Billups was the biggest mistake he ever made and blah blah blah...well think back when Billups, Rip and even Sheed came to the Pistons, then remember that Billups was a castoff of several NBA teams at that point, everyone in Det. wanted Dumars' head for trading Stackhouse to get Rip and Sheed was a loose cannon that the JailBlazers couldn't get rid of fast enough (not to mention B. Wallace who was an afterthought in Washington). So, basically I am saying it takes time and patience to build that kind of team and in a few more years Pistons fans will be back to worshipping the ground Dumars walks on as this team becomes a winnner.

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