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Jamaal Magloire

Jamaal Magloire?

Are you freaking kidding me?

(Not as in some whiny, mercury-quick way of saying that. More staccato. "Are you, freaking, kidding me?"-like)

We told the Bucks to stop using him when it was apparent that he was washed up in 2005-06, they didn't listen.

We told Portland not to trade for the guy back in 2006, they didn't listen.

We told New Jersey to take a pass last summer, at any price, they didn't listen.

Dallas never listens to me. Devean George? I might as well be talking to a cloth cap.

But here Miami is, thinking he's an answer, even if it's only for 18 minutes a game. He has size. He can rebound. He won't be asked to score. He'll come cheap. There's no pressure. There's no risk. There's a solid reward if he turns it around. Hope, hope, hope, dream, dream, smoke, smoke, crack, crack.

It's Jamaal Magloire. He's done. At any price. Just because you recognize his name and only need to use one hand to count the years between now and his lone All-Star appearance, it doesn't mean you sign the guy. It doesn't mean you even think about it.

Just because he'll play for the minimum, it doesn't mean you do it. I'll play for the minimum. It doesn't mean you fly me into Miami for a visit. Especially not now. I'm Irish. I peel like you wouldn't believe. It's halibut-white to Sheer Heart Attack-red in one 20 minute stroll on the beach.

Just because he won't play many minutes, it doesn't mean you do it. Minutes count. The backup's backup counts, especially when the backup in question gets injured. Smart basketball people have been saying this for years - it's not the backup getting minutes that kills a team after an injury, it's the backup's backup. It's when Eddie Gill is getting minutes in the second quarter. Devean George. Milt Palacio. JAMAAL MAGLOIRE.

Every year teams and fans get stuck with the mindset that end of the bench-types don't matter, and every year poor roster choices kill teams in slight and subversive ways. Those 800 minutes that a guy like Magloire gives you hurts, hurts bad, and even accounting for the garbage time factor, having a millstone like Mags on the court is just bad news for all involved.

He can't move defensively. He can't run the floor, defensively. He'll rebound, but he also still wants to shoot. And he can't shoot, or score, or hit free throws once he pulls in a rebound and gets fouled going for the put-back. There's a reason he's been on so many teams over the last four years, and it's not because he's bringing anything to the table. It's because GMs are making bad moves based on name recognition alone. Rod Thorn and Donn Nelson, the two otherwise-astute men who employed Magloire last year, are among the worst in this area.

And yet, guys like Mags still get jobs, every summer. And the NBDL goes untouched. You don't think some (cheaper, by the way) NBDL guy couldn't top the seven points, 11.2 rebounds, 6.3 fouls, 1.3 blocks, and 3.8 turnovers per 36 minutes that Magloire provided last season? Throw in the fact that a younger player could actually keep up with his man running down the floor, throw in the ability to discover a diamond in the rough, throw in the improved practice play ... so why aren't we going to the minor leagues?

I asked Matt Moore, contributor to 14,000 fine websites but best known for his work at Hardwood Paroxysm, to shoot me a list of those who he thought could top Mags next year:

"Per minutes is a good stat here. Lance Allred. I know, I know. But bear in mind that every NBA scout loves his rebounding and he's an 80% free throw shooter. 

Allred, Rod Benson, Chris Alexander, Elton Brown, Roderick Riley (points are going to be a stretch, but I could see it happening), Marcus Campbell, Glen McGowan, Nik Caner-Medley."

That took him 12 seconds to write. I counted. I'm pretty sure Glen McGowan is some local MSP, and that Nik Caner-Medley was in the other guy in Ricky Gervais' old band, but that's not the point.

The point is that Miami has options, myriad options, and doesn't need to waste minutes and effort on this guy. Nothing against Magloire (how sincere did that sound?), but there's nothing there but a 4-on-5 situation. Stop with the vets, it's safe and it's an easy way out. Earn your salary, listen to the scouts that you pay solid money to, and demand that your coaching staff earn its salary as well.

I'll let Matt finish it:

"An important thing to note is the age of some of these guys. Chris Alexander is 28, 7-0. Marcus Campbell is 26. Elton Brown, who is amazingly efficient, turns 25 in September. Why not get some guys that can improve with coaching, versus guys who's ceiling is ‘not completely sucking?'"

Actually, I want to finish it. Stop recycling. Start bringing in younger players who, at their absolute worst, are going to contribute more or just as much, while making less money. Start with Jamaal Magloire.

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  1. Gregory O
    1. Posted by Gregory O Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    Caner-Medley played for Maryland.
  2. AK
    2. Posted by AK Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    Boom tho
  3. GregP
    3. Posted by GregP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm EDT

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    Jamal sucks. He made it as a third center in the east one year and I do believe it was b/c someone was injured. He is out of shape and has been on a downhill slide ever since he made the All Star team. He is poop and I am not proud to say his lazy azz is Canadian!
  4. curtis
    4. Posted by curtis Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 pm EDT

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    Bring back Roy Tarpley!
    At least he'll provide the crack for the GMs to smoke.
  5. b.p.
    5. Posted by b.p. Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    Couldn't agree more about mining the NBDL instead of digging up stiffs to ride pine and give fouls. I mean, how much talent difference can there really be between the 11th and 12th guys on NBA teams and an NBDL all-star? Like KD says, you know EXACTLY what you're getting with a washed-up veteran, and you know it isn't good. So why not buy a cheap NBDL lottery ticket instead? You know they are going to be hungry, coachable, and bring it in practice, and every once in a while they turn into valuable members of a rotation. Golden State found Kelenna Azabuike a couple of years ago, and he's got to be at least as good as half the back-up swingmen in the league...and we don't even know how good he can be yet.
    Hey KD--for arguments sake, who do you think is the Jamaal Magloire of NBA GMs?
  6. underticker
    6. Posted by underticker Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    Chris Alexander!
  7. Kelly Dwyer is an idiot
    7. Posted by Kelly Dwyer is an idiot Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    KD you talk out of your @$$ thats why nobody listens to you.
  8. the REAL Headless Chicken
    8. Posted by the REAL Headless Chicken Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    There's only one. Boom Tho. And they dug the NBDL already. Still going for some "vet"?
  9. RobinH
    9. Posted by RobinH Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    3.8 turnovers per 36 min?? Did i read that correctly?
  10. William K
    10. Posted by William K Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 pm EDT

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    One thing Magloire does bring is he's probably the dirtiest player since Bill Lambier. He loves punishing the other team with cheap shots when the ref isn't looking. He's worth keeping around just to put in to start a fight with the other team's starter, if nothing else.
  11. TRADE REDD NOW!!
    11. Posted by TRADE REDD NOW!! Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:49 pm EDT

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    Dallas needs Magloire. He makes Dirk look like White Lightning running down the court!!
  12. Tre Shaw
    12. Posted by Tre Shaw Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 pm EDT

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    Man leave Jamal alone. let the man get his money. I agree that there are allot of guys in the NBDL that would not only love but deserve the opportunity BUT Jamal has played in teh NBA he knows the game he went to Kentucky so he has teaching...I want the RAPTORS to pick him up just because he is a hometown boy. He does allot for charity and the youth and he IS an NBA basketball player........We WANT MAGLOIRE.....I might get stoned in Toronto but the guy is a cool dude.
  13. Louie
    13. Posted by Louie Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:12 pm EDT

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    he is done.he should just retire rather than seat on the bench, please read-MOVE ON. he is just a disadvantage to any team he is playing for. i saw him play for portland and i saw him with the ball with no apparent threat to defend him underneath the boards, an easy dunk for a 7 footer, but lo and behold what he did is mind boggling, he put his hand on his eyes covering them and tried to dunk the ball and as anyone can predict he totallly missed a simple dunk shot because he is covering his eyes w/ his other hand. in conclusion he just sucks, i don't know what team in his right mind would take magloire.if i am a gm i would choose artest over him any time of the day and would not risk it with magloire...
  14. Adiyahu
    14. Posted by Adiyahu Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    *accidental* All-Star appearance
  15. Justin C
    15. Posted by Justin C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    To whoever wrote this blog/article......I can't understand what the hell you are saying for the first half of the page.....poor writing technique lol, maybe you should look for a new job.
  16. johnny c
    16. Posted by johnny c Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    mags should play for memphis, hes just a trash center, no heart or movement, junk c
  17. Peds
    17. Posted by Peds Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:05 pm EDT

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    Robin H (#9): check out the 6.3 fouls in 36 mins, Man.... plus the 3.8 turnovers... That's just extremely poor... How cold you hire a player like this??...
  18. David
    18. Posted by David Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Chris Alexander!!
  19. flim
    19. Posted by flim Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 pm EDT

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    are you talkin' bout the Chris Alexander who just finished playing here in the Philippines? guy who kinda looks like Delroy Lindo? The man's a monster rebounder and shotblocker, if ungifted on the offensive end... thought he was younger than 28 (like 25 or something), but I'd still rather take a risk with him (maybe sign him to a 3-month contract?) than get magloire...
  20. EggYolk
    20. Posted by EggYolk Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    BIG CAT! whachagona doooooo
  21. Mister Sparkle
    21. Posted by Mister Sparkle Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    Amen to that KD.
    In the words of Stephen A, "...he's a prototypical scrub."
  22. baby_face_assassin
    22. Posted by baby_face_assassin Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Chris Alexander? the 7ft monster who just brought a championship to the most popular team in the Philippines....if i am an NBA GM, I'd rather sign this guy, instead of the Magloire.... Magloire is way out of his prime.... an accidental all star??? maybe.... but instead of investing to those old guys that aren't as reliable as pj brown, why not go to the young guys that has enough room for improvement.... CHRIS ALEXANDER = Contract
  23. Kaen K
    23. Posted by Kaen K Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:19 pm EDT

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    B4 signing Magloire, look for the 2008 SMART PHILIPPINE CUP of the Philippine Basketball Association and see how the 7-footer Chris Alexander carried on his wounded team to the championship where they trailed 2-3 on a best-of-seven series. He was Best Import of the Conference and was dubbed Alexander the Great. Averaged 15-20 plus rebounds a game.
  24. martin
    24. Posted by martin Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 pm EDT

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    CHRIS ALEXANDER!! give him a chance to play in the NBA!!
  25. Mark T
    25. Posted by Mark T Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    sign CHRIS ALEXANDER. The dude knows how to play well.

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