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Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

Jannero Pargo could be a Bull, again


For all we know, the Chicago Bulls could be biding their time, and acting as one of seemingly thousands of teams that will be in place to offer any number of free agents a great deal of money during the 2010 offseason. Playing it smart, preparing to pounce.

After all, should all the likely parties pick up their options, and if the team declines to offer Tyrus Thomas(notes) a qualifying offer, Chicago could be in line to have as little as $41 million committed to Derrick Rose(notes), Joakim Noah(notes), Kirk Hinrich(notes), Luol Deng(notes), and John Salmons(notes) for 2010-11. They could go above and beyond, pay for a winner, grab some superduperstar, extend the kids, pay the luxury tax, and go against what we expect of a team that has made its hay off of rookie contracts for the last decade.

Or, they could go according to current form. Pay guaranteed money to two rookies from this year's draft, lose a leading scorer every summer, complain about the tax despite huge (for the NBA) revenues, and do things like have "a great meeting" with Jannero Pargo(notes), and his representative.

Dammit. Jannero Pargo?

This is how you lose faith in a team, when it overrates a 6-foot shooting guard who could barely break the rotation for you five years ago. Someone who turns 30 in September. Someone who you're in love with because he was on national TV quite a bit as his Hornets made the second round of the playoffs in 2008.

Unless you're bringing him on for a slim salary that only lasts for one year, Jannero Pargo doesn't help. Jannero Pargo hurts, especially if he's on the books beyond 2009-10.

Why? Because nobody ever remembers the shots that he misses. Nobody likes to think about on-ball defense, when booming three-pointers can be reflected upon. And nobody obsesses over the free throws JP doesn't shoot.

Free throws are important. The great and good players earn them, they pump up their scoring average and help their teams by drawing fouls and getting to the line. It's why we marvel at the nights where Kobe Bryant(notes) or Dwyane Wade(notes) can score 35 points on 17 shots.

Pargo is the master of scoring 10 points on 10 shots. More than I would score on 10 shots, better than Flip Murray(notes) (the master of scoring 10 points on 13 shots), but still inefficient. Toss in the fact that he's not much of a defender, doesn't rebound, can't really run an offense, and isn't a creative passer ... and you have Jannero Pargo. You had him years ago, actually.

And he hasn't changed. Same guy. Possibly worse. Shoots less than 40 percent, shoots above the league average on three-pointers, and (on average) takes two free throws for every 36 minutes he plays. Do you know how awful that is?

Chicago wants to sign this guy, because you've heard of him. Either the team is awful at player evaluation, and doesn't understand advanced (or even obvious) basketball metrics, or the Bulls are evil geniuses, bent on keeping the moderate NBA fans coming back for more, filling up that stadium. "Ooh, they got Pargo back. Who was he with, a few years ago? Dallas? Oh, the Hornets. My bad. He'll be like a mini-Ben Gordon(notes). Cool."

Not cool. Not cool at all, man. Don't you see what they're doing to you? Don't you see the lies? Here, I have some pamphlets you can read. Did I ever tell you about Leon Czolgosz? He was just a pawn, man.

Listen, the reality is that the Chicago Bulls could bring Pargo back for a fair price, deal with his mitigating factors as long as he comes through with that bi-weekly hot fourth quarter, and get some so-so production that they could look to replace again next summer.

Or they could tell you that he's some sort of answer, sign him beyond this season, and continue to pile "assets" without actually trying to build anything more than a second round hopeful. As it's always been ... prove me wrong, Bulls. Please.

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  1. suck on this
    1. Posted by suck on this Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    How come the bulls failed to get anything for BG. I can see them not wanting to pay him that much coin but couldnt they have traded thim for something? to lose him for zippo seems like a pretty big mistake.
  2. Roger Mason Jr. = Hero
    2. Posted by Roger Mason Jr. = Hero Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    What you're suggesting seems like anarchy to me.
  3. The Griot
    3. Posted by The Griot Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    I like JP. But only if he comes off the bench for a handfull of minutes and we don't pay him squat. If he comes cheap he would be a great asset off the bench for short scoring while rose is on the bench and kirk is at the point. I don't want to see him right away i want kirk to be super six man and come in for what could be 3 positions if we don't fix our depth. But JP coming off the bench scoring a quick 10 points and never seeing him again is fine with me. But we know the bulls and thats not whats going to happen.. Damn you kelly for giving me all these conflicting thoughts. By the way i am not mad at all we lost BG. lets just hope everyone else can step up like i hope they can
  4. Allen
    4. Posted by Allen Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    Another Chicago sports franchise looking at their bottom dollar and letting a quality player go for nothing in exchange.
    Pretty good job for the 3rd largest city in the nation.
    They act like they are some sort of small market economy.
    But I guess as long as fans dole out the cash for their mediocre products, this is what they will get.
  5. vchokshi@...
    5. Posted by vchokshi@... Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    Like Edward said, if we can get JP for real cheap and for a yr, I'd be down. But if they overpay and give him multiple years, they have LTM! (lost their mind)
  6. Scotty X
    6. Posted by Scotty X Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    we should trade hinrich for expiring contracts and save money for the 2010 offseason where we make a run at amare, bosh, or DWADE. but getting jp cheap off the bench will be a good move
  7. Stoneface
    7. Posted by Stoneface Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Maybe the Bulls front office saw this....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-8lkEMFW0A
  8. John B
    8. Posted by John B Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    don't sign him, sign mccants for a year and then get amare next year
  9. Health Club
    9. Posted by Health Club Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:54 pm EDT

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    Still better than being a Warriors fan.
  10. thetazz12002
    10. Posted by thetazz12002 Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:38 pm EDT

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    Why do some morons on here keep saying trade kirk theres a reason why portland wants him to play with roy...Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..Cause he can pass and make plays..and score 18 to 20 a game and play defense..? The bulls would of played kirk more in the playoffs they could of got pass the first round.But we have a idot for a coach.I'm glad ben is gone he sucks..!! he cant dribble cant shoot with a defender on him and throws the balls away..If he scores 30 he gives up 30 cause he cant play D. And if hes off shooting wise we got drained cause hes a ball hog.I bet pistons use him off the bench hes not no starter..Bottom line is we need new owners...these guys suck and dont see talent when they have it and are cheap....they remind me big time of old man wurtz..
  11. QuAzY
    11. Posted by QuAzY Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    Pargo = Chicago's Hope or Savior .... I would like Amare to go to this team ... so Chicago can do some havoc in the east
  12. Joshua S
    12. Posted by Joshua S Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    Czolgosz was not a pawn. Cleveland signed him for the MLE. And boy did he deliver! If TR didn't send him a thank you card, he should have.
  13. jay j
    13. Posted by jay j Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:14 pm EDT

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    I cant believe that after all those years jordan gave us and chicago bulls still wont spend the money for what the team needs i guess jerry r made his money but thats not fair to us bulls fans to keep watching all those stars players change teams and chicago done nothing come on spend that money you have it.
  14. Chi Fan
    14. Posted by Chi Fan Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:03 pm EDT

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    I might be wrong here, but from what I remember Pargo is a better player than Gordon. Just like Hinrich is a better player than Gordon. The reason Gordon is getting more money than either of them is because he's a better shooter, that's it. At least Pargo knows he's a bench player, unlike Gordon. I can't believe the idiot who wrote this blog is making it out like the Bulls are going to give Pargo $15 million a year so they won't be able to pursue a free agent in 2010. If Pargo signs with any team, he'll definitely come cheap. He hasn't played in the NBA in over a year, and was cut by his team overseas. Plus, it's not like he was ever a starter. The most starts he ever had in a season was 7, and that was 2 to 3 years ago. If he signs with the Bulls he won't even be the first guard off the bench with Rose, Hinrich, and Salmons ahead of him. Chicago, sign Pargo. He's a good bench player.
  15. Efrain F
    15. Posted by Efrain F Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:40 pm EDT

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    This blog is strange. First of all bulls losing Gordon was expected because of salmons having ended his year averaging over 20 points per game. If I were the bulls trade Deng mid-season if he doesn't work out or help the team. Try to get Wade, Bosh, or Stoudemire. Next year starting lineup: rose, hinrich, salmons, Thomas, and Noah
  16. Arkansas
    16. Posted by Arkansas Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:48 am EDT

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    I agaree with the Amare Stoudemire pick up. I surely don't think we need pargo. This is the line-up: Rose, Salmons, Deng, Thomas, abd Noah, with hinrich as the sixth and let the rookies, johnson come in off the bench behind salmons & deng, and gibson behind thomas and noah. I believe theycan pick up milsap from the jazz at the mid - level exception price or even a couple more million for one or two yrs, and still pick up Amare in 2010.
  17. Chi Fan
    17. Posted by Chi Fan Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:18 am EDT

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    Milsap wants starter type money and wants to be a starter, so it's either Amare or Milsap but not both. Pargo would be a decent #4 guard who's cheap, the Bulls may not necessarily need him but it would be a good pickup. I'm not sure about Amare, I'd rather the Bulls spend the money on D-Wade who is the more realistic choice I think. He's from Chicago, he does activities in Chicago in the offseason, he just said that if Miami isn't a title contender then he's most likely leaving, and why wouldn't he want to play along side D-Rose(who doesn't hog the ball)?
  18. Lee
    18. Posted by Lee Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:27 am EDT

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    The Pargo option better be a short term solution with minimal pay.
    I would much rather add DWade to the mix next year and have a Championship team in Chicago again.
    Just think of what it could be next year:
    *D.Rose and Wade along with Deng, Thomas & Noah make up a pretty good team for 2010!
  19. hans k
    19. Posted by hans k Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:55 am EDT

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    I went to the Euroleague finals this year. Pargo played for Olympiakos and played poorly. Just like Childress, he could not impress and they both where totally outplayed by Panatinaikos. They where even not the best players on their team. Lynn Greer (Lynn Terence Greer Jr) is the man in that team. Not these so called NBA-players.
    The second game they didn't have to dress at all and watched from the sidelines.. Total wasted of a lot of money.
  20. anon
    20. Posted by anon Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:03 am EDT

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    Czolgosz? Leon Czolgosz?!!! Like McKinley wasn't a pawn himself...
  21. Moe
    21. Posted by Moe Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:17 am EDT

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    people realize there's only one basketball right? Wade cannot be on the court with Rose, it won't work. Both players need the ball.
    I'd love some Chris Bosh, but he might stay now that the raptors got Hedo.
  22. loganjimmy
    22. Posted by loganjimmy Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:29 am EDT

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    The fact of the matter is that Pargo is better than what we have had on the bench, hunter the dude that shakes the pom poms a. roberson, and d. nichols, so signing him for 2 years for 1 million per aint gonna break the bank. Everybody keep talking about Chris Bosh. He is not that great. He will help but until we get a beast in the low post and some real defenders we not gonna go any where. I would like to see Curry come back as far as low post scoring cause that he can do. Defensive wise Noah and Thomas are straight. Why doesnt anyone mention Carmelo as a free agent. I love Wade but Im not sure thats gonna work with Rose, 2 similar style players one ball.

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