Thu May 15, 2008 3:30 pm EDT
Two juicy trade rumors for you to chew on and spit out in the comments. The first rumor, via the Bergen Record, says that Rod Thorn, Kiki Vandeweghe and the Nets want to start fresh by making a move for Carmelo Anthony. Denver Stiffs wonders what type of package it would take to get him? The second, via Sam Amick at the Sacramento Bee, throws a Ron Artest-for-Josh Howard swap to the world. Early poll results show Sactown Royalty is on board. But what do you think? Can you see either of these trades happening?
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kobe for president.
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Sacramento has a lot of good things right now...but they're in a tough division. They would need acquire someone like LeBron James to win over the Lakers and Suns. Or...Kobe would have to retire, along with Stevie Nash. None of those things look likely. Sure they've got dough. Is Josh Howard the answer? I don't think so. They need a point guard first and foremost. If they can trade some of their bench for, say, either an '08 draft pick or someone like Kirk Hinrich, maybe Jamal Crawford, maybe even Brandon Roy or Allen Iverson if things don't work out in Portland or Denver, respectively. Things are bleak on that front.
Carmelo's too much of a risk for a GM off the court and on the court. On the court, all he does is shoot. Lord knows if you can reform him from that. Off the court, he's a little immature, as we know.
Artest's not so good off the court either. I think he, like maybe Jermaine O'Neal, is still a good player, but has lost limelight thanks to Boston's Not-So-Big Three and Kobe and Pau, and CP3. Put them on good teams and they will deliver.
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As far as Howard/Artest, if a 1-1 trade happened, Dallas would be making a big mistake. Howard has a lot of untapped potential. Still, they did do one of the most stupid trades ever to get Kidd, so I wouldn't be surprised. Nothing against Kidd, he's an awesome player, but Dallas could've gotten better in the trade.
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I think, that if Carmelo Anthony were to leave the Nuggets, through trading or waiving, or whatever reason, Denver would become a better team. Think of it like this. Let J.R. Smith take Andre Iguodala's place. Let Marcus Camby take in for Chris Webber. If he's not enough, add in Kenyon Martin as well. Let Lanis Kleiza(spelling error, I think?) develop into a mini-star. Denver is better than the Philly roster that beat everyone to the Finals, but apparently lost. So? They reached the Finals. And this time, the Denver roster that A.I. owns is better than the Philedelphia roster about 7-8 years ago. Denver has a legitimate chance to survive in this race out West! But wait! Hold it! Back to reality for us. No one wants Carmelo "DUI" Anthony.
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well the mavericks traded young d harris for old j kidd
so who knows really
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Thoughts?
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well the mavericks traded young d harris for old j kidd
so who knows really
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pg = harris, armstrong
sg = vc, ager
sf = carmelo, nachbar
pf = swift, boone
c = diop, williams
pg = marcus, atkins
sg = ai, jr smith
sf = jeffersonkleiza
pf = kenyon, najera
c = camby, nene
and for the josh howard ron artest deal, i think dallas will benefit more cuz artest and kidd leading the defense sounds great, and for sacramento, well they just getting another scorer
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getting carmelo will not be easy, but it could happen
as for artest for howard, thats good for sactown, as long as howard does not turn into the teams marijuana dealer
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2-If this deal happens, it will help BOTH teams.If Dallas gets Ron Artest,they will have a good scorer and a player who can guard the other teams' best player.If Sac-Town gets Howard,they will have another great scorer and a good personality in Howard.
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Denver gets Jefferson and Stromile Swift from Nets, Luke Walton and draft choices from L.A.
Lakers get Carmelo Anthony,Nene Hilario from Denver and Harris from Nets
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They already have Kobe, Gasol, and even Odom.
Bynum is a keeper..
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Go LAKE-UHHS!
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