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Peter Vecsey comes through with the latest in a series of columns that have essentially been culled from hidden microphone recordings of conversations my father and I had in December of 2003. We're sure of it. Yes, the names have been changed, because Dad and I never assumed that Jared Jeffries would have made it past his rookie contract or that that Jerome James would have been in the league long enough to grab a deal in the summer of 2005, but the sentiments remain.

It's a good column: Isiah Thomas is a bad GM, he's not only brought in a bunch of horribly mismatched basketball players ill-suited to be counted on for anything more than a strong first quarter in a blowout loss, but, as coach, he's also lost control of them. The Knicks should fire Isiah.

Yes, fire Isiah. Go nuts. Trade his bums away, and have fun. See how that works.  Because it won't.

The Knicks need to dump Isiah Thomas, and trade just about every player they have away. That's the obvious part. The problem here is that there are precious few players on this team (David Lee, Renaldo Balkman ... that's it) worth building around, and even those guys are role players. A major fire sale should be in the offing, but it is contingent, of course, on Isiah finding another four or five jobs as a GM for other teams under four different pseudonyms. This is the NBA, you need two to tango, and I'm having a hard time finding a new home for any of these mugs.

You can't just cut someone like Eddy Curry or release Stephon Marbury, like an NFL team could, and watch as the contract flies off the books. And you can't just dump someone like Jared Jeffries or Jamal Crawford on a team desperate for overrated defense and bad shooting for a series of Double-A semi-prospects, as you can in Major League Baseball. Things are different in the NBA, where you need a trading partner to match the salary of the guaranteed contract you're trading, and who would want these guys?

Marbury is owed nearly $40 million over this season and the next one, and even if there was a team desperate for someone to run the point guard position (or to clear salary and grab a contract that expires in the summer of 2009), it will be next to impossible to garner enough salaries in return to match that $20 million average. Eddy Curry can score in the low post, but he's woefully below average in every other facet of pro basketball besides his one solid skill, and his uninsured contract averages about $10 million a year over the next four seasons. Yes, he can score, but his pitiful defense will more than mitigate his great offense, his legendarily bad rebounding skills will kill your team on both ends, and Eddy's inability to find a teammate while double-teamed will destroy your offense even before he gets a chance to do the one thing he's good at.

So, at $10 million a year, who would want this guy? Remember, the Knicks can throw in exactly two (Lee and Balkman) low-salaried, high-production players to sweeten any deal, but those two only go so far when you have 13 other high-salaried loads to unload.

We don't mean to pick on Pete Vecsey's column, he's got the right idea, and he isn't falling into the trap that a lot of national columnists do by proposing an obvious solution ("throw the bums out!") without actually telling you how to do it.

But for every troubled team in the league, the average hardcore NBA fan could give you the blueprint of a cogent rebuilding play. With the Knicks, even the freaks are stuck; because we can't imagine who would want to take on Marbury, Curry, Randolph, Crawford, Richardson (in spite of his actual tough play), James, Jeffries or Malik Rose. Seriously, look at these salaries and refer back to your favorite team. Would you want any of these guys littering your salary cap? And what price would you pay for the right to have them litter your salary cap?

Now, think of your typical GM, with his typical three-year window to "get things right." Can you think of any GM in the NBA that would want to take on any member of this lot? Jerry West could take on New York's GM job by the time you're done with lunch today, and it wouldn't mean a thing. Unless the next Knick GM finds an Isiah-like sucker to take on any of these guys, the Knicks are stuck with a likely batch of embarrassing buyouts. So, until the contracts are up, expect Fire Isiah (that's his first name, right?) to stick around. Honestly, there's precious little that any replacement can do until then.

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  1. lorenl
    1. Posted by lorenl Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:48 pm EDT

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    there's no doubt they have a mess on their hands over there. Thomas knew this was the case (with the contracts) going in, and then making matters worse with poor judgement by going out and getting it rolling by trading for Curry to begin with. Now after all these moves and guaranteed contracts, there is no way out. If ownership can suck it up and do buyouts on even a contract or two of the worst offenders it would show an effort to change. But you still have to replace these players to fill your roster. I say get rid of the first one and work from there, for starters, regardless of their contract. Who is the worst offender, then the next, rate 'um and cut 'um. In a couple years, done correctly, things will improve.
  2. Peter Ho
    2. Posted by Peter Ho Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm EDT

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    the knicks are done, i don't even kno why they haven't fired issac.
  3. $$ Money Maker
    3. Posted by $$ Money Maker Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:38 pm EDT

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    You know what, this could not of happened to a guy who deserves it more. Isiah Thomas is and has been one of the more obnoxious, fake people that there is in sports. His phony smile he gives to people to make him seem like a good guy is so transparent. He was a great basketball player, but a coach or GM...HE IS NOT!! He does not seem like a person that you would want in anywhere in your life, let alone running your basketball franchise. A very storied franchise, that as long as he is associated with, will have a big black cloud hovering over them. Get rid of this guy...BOTTOM LINE!!
  4. xxay
    4. Posted by xxay Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 pm EDT

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    Knick created their own problem.
  5. LakerLove
    5. Posted by LakerLove Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    It will take years for the Knicks to get out from that Salary Cap Hell they are in.
  6. Waltonia
    6. Posted by Waltonia Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:39 pm EDT

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    You just don't understand-Isiah is SAVING the NBA-think about it-he has taken some of the most odious, overpaid ballhogs in the league, and kept them in one place. Notice that Randolph's blazers, Curry and Crawford's Bulls, Francis' Magic, and Marbury's Suns, all these teams, once rid of their "superstar" who shot too much, didn't play defense or share the ball, thrived. Now only one team reeks: the Knicks, whereas before Isiah's trades, the magic, suns, blazers, and bulls all stunk. If they managed to trade all these guys, it would be a disaster for whatever team they went to.
  7. Bogart
    7. Posted by Bogart Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    Ive been a knick fan since 1994, and sad to say, this team has gone from Defense good to nothing. If they want to get back on the winning list, get rid of Isiah, get Jeff Van Gundy or a defensive minded coach to take over, deal Curry along with Stephon and get someone like Tyson Chandler or anybody who is willing to score on hustles (there are a lot in the CBA I think). If they dont plan to get rid of these 3, New York will remain the laughing stock of the NBA for quite a long while....
  8. Shaq
    8. Posted by Shaq Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 pm EDT

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    ...seriously, who cares about Isiah and the Knicks. Is this the only "AMAZING" news happening in the NBA? Please find a better story and stop writing crap thatall the other freaking "experts" have written about already.
  9. Barlo
    9. Posted by Barlo Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    hopet he stephon, curry gets injured and they be waived via amnesty clause lol
  10. tony n
    10. Posted by tony n Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:16 pm EDT

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    Worst then some high school teams
  11. shawn
    11. Posted by shawn Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    Great point waltonia, cleaning up the NBA. On a positive note, I, like many others, have enjoyed the opportunity to watch Isiah get booed, criticised, and publicly humiliated for this long.I guess we can thank dolan for that, and not firing him.
  12. George V
    12. Posted by George V Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    Knicks suck
  13. X
    13. Posted by X Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:48 pm EDT

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    Post #6 is genius.
  14. Hamilton
    14. Posted by Hamilton Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:39 pm EDT

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    Thomas should come out of retirement and ball.
  15. Eric L
    15. Posted by Eric L Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    im from portland and i cant begin to thank zeek for taking zbo off our hands...nothing kills a team like a lazy, poor rebounding, awful defender, and not to mention ball hog...frye+cap space for zbo, best deal the blazers could have made
  16. Rhyno
    16. Posted by Rhyno Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 pm EDT

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    I have thought about this for awhile now. Even though I am a Bulls fan, I used to love to watch Ewing, Starks, and the Knicks play against Jordan, Pippen and the Bulls. Those were some of the best games to watch. The Knicks need to get rid of Isiah first off. Thats all agreed. One of the easier moves to make would be trading Eddy Curry. A lot of teams need a low-post scorer like Curry even though he can't do much else. The Knicks just have to look in the long-run because they won't get value back for most of their guys. Get expiring contracts and continue to make good draft picks (i.e. their only two valuable players Lee and Balkman). It will take time, but it will get turned around.
  17. maihtab2
    17. Posted by maihtab2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:03 pm EDT

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    i cant believe we have jeffries, curry, and crawford for 4 more years... isiah is a freaken retard
  18. baseketball4life
    18. Posted by baseketball4life Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    they have too many players who dominate the basketball... Curry needs the ball to be effective, Zbo also... Marbury is a natural ball hog, he needs the ball... Crawford takes a ton of shots, he needs the ball.... heck even qrich needs to shoot... not enough touches to go around and make it work... too much contrast in style, total mess in NY... good luck isiah!!!
  19. baseketball4life
    19. Posted by baseketball4life Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    they have too many players who dominate the basketball... curry needs the ball to be effective, zbo also... marbury is a natural ball hog, he needs the ball... crawford takes a ton of shots, he needs the ball.... heck even qrich needs to shoot... not enough touches to go around and make it work... too much contrast in style, total mess in ny... good luck isiah!!!
  20. curtis
    20. Posted by curtis Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 pm EDT

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    It's ludicrous to leave Isiah in there. Sure, a new GM wouldn't be able to trade away these horrible players and their even worse contracts, but at least he won't acquire more of these bozos.
  21. JM E
    21. Posted by JM E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    hit the road Isiah!
  22. U....
    22. Posted by U.... Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:35 pm EDT

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    It is sad but your article is true. Everything except labeling Jamal Crawford as a bad player. They are a team and everything a player does effects another player. Some of his bad shot selection is because no one else is open or doing their job correctly. Remember he is a shooting guard, so he is supposed to be able to catch and shoot, but that is not the case when he is bring the ball up, setting plays and waiting for the other team members to get in place or get open.
  23. MoNkEyBaRz
    23. Posted by MoNkEyBaRz Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    The Knicks are going to be bad for a while......firing Thomas at this point wouldn't change much except possibly quell the boo's you hear every night the Knicks play at the Garden. Dolan must REALLY love Thomas to allow him to screw up a team this bad.
  24. Jamaal M
    24. Posted by Jamaal M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:04 pm EDT

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    OMG.......We're Scewed!!!!!!
  25. Jamaal M
    25. Posted by Jamaal M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:04 pm EDT

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    ZEKE how could you screw is like this!!!! You found the biggest d**k you could get your hands on and shoved it up our a** with no vasiline!!!! Now you gots to go!!!!

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