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This is what happens, general managers and fans alike, when you shoot for 45 wins, and nothing higher. 

This is what happens when you overvalue talent. Like, perhaps, Luke Ridnour's(notes) talent.

This is what happens when you pin your hopes on Richard Jefferson(notes) as a second go-to guy, even when he should be a third or fourth, while being paid as a first option.

Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that the Milwaukee Bucks, dangerously close to paying the luxury tax even before filling out their roster, signing its impending lottery pick, or extending any expiring contracts, are in deep discussions with the San Antonio Spurs to toss Jefferson their way for Bruce Bowen(notes), Fabricio Oberto(notes), and Kurt Thomas(notes).

It's a lopsided deal, talent-wise, even taking into consideration the way people tend to overrate Jefferson. But it's a necessary deal, in Milwaukee's eyes, as Jefferson is due over $29 million over the next two seasons, on a team with little upside and no real reason to pay a luxury like Jefferson to stick around.

Bowen and Oberto's contracts are not guaranteed for 2009-10, so they'll immediately be cut by the Bucks and possibly end up back in San Antonio. Thomas has one year left on his deal, but he's also strong trade bait due to his veteran savvy, length, and his cheap and expiring contract. Even if the Bucks hang onto him for all of 2009-10, the deal will save them about $6.4 million next season (allowing for Bowen and Oberto's partial guarantees), and $15.2 in 2010-11. To say nothing of luxury tax savings yet to be determined.

And yet, it still leaves them at about the salary cap level, before signing a draft pick, or extending the contracts of Ramon Sessions(notes) and Charlie Villanueva(notes).

All because, about this time last year, the Bucks shot for the lower rung of the Eastern Conference playoffs.

They traded for Jefferson, something that left me "awfully confused" at the time, and most expectations for the trade panned out. Soon after, the team made an awful deal to secure Luke Ridnour's rights, entering the season with a massive payroll that topped off just under $70 million, winning just 34 games in an injury plagued season.

Now, this team would have been fighting (and, though you'll laugh and I hate to admit it, possible passing) the Chicago Bulls and Detroit Pistons for a lower rung playoff spot had Michael Redd(notes) and Andrew Bogut(notes) stayed healthy. The team had won 47 percent of its games when Redd tore his ACL, and a 47.6 winning percentage put Detroit in the playoffs. More minutes for Ramon Sessions over Ridnour in that second half could have possible put the team over the top, as most Scott Skiles teams start slow and finish strong.

But what's the point? They could have won half their games, with a $70 million payroll? At some point, you have to start over. And "starting over" doesn't mean retaining a .500 team, or tarting it up with add-ons like Jefferson or Ridnour.

With the possible Jefferson deal in place, the Bucks might finally be on their way toward a proper rebuilding program.

The Spurs? You'd like to see a better payoff for all those expiring and unguaranteed deals, but if Jefferson is the reward, this means Vince Carter(notes) isn't on the block (for that price, at least), or that San Antonio does not want. And it's still a damn good reward, especially if Bowen finds his way back to Texas.

Jefferson is a solid player, a fine defender, and should be perfectly at home as an at-times fourth option in the San Antonio attack. He can hit the baseline three-pointer (I'd support this with some statistics culled from NBA.com, but the Hot Spots program doesn't appear to be working right now), which makes him perfect for San Antonio's drive and kick offense.

Taking on Jefferson does mean San Antonio will pay the luxury tax next season, as the Spurs will be over $70 million in payroll with only nine players on board, once they decline Marcus Williams' option. Luxury tax concerns once forced the team to deal Luis Scola(notes) to the Houston Rockets, but with Tim Duncan(notes) possibly on his last legs, owner Peter Holt is likely out to pay for a winner, and he should get kudos for that.

We'll have more on the deal, and reaction to any others that may come down the pike, as the week moves along ...

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  1. michael c
    1. Posted by michael c Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:26 pm EDT

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    the question mark in the headline looks especially anchormanish now that the deal is official
  2. Jacob S
    2. Posted by Jacob S Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:27 pm EDT

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    Very happy spurs fan here. I'm not a big RJ fan but as a fourth option I'm thrilled. Hopefully Bruce and Fab don't pack their bags and stay here too. Great job by Pop and RC.
  3. K NEL
    3. Posted by K NEL Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:36 pm EDT

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    well the Spurs had to find a way to help compete in the West and they did it. Now the Spurs need to find a big man or two and they're back in business.
  4. Michael E
    4. Posted by Michael E Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:38 pm EDT

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    He plays defense, he shoots the 3, he's more athletic than Bowen and Finley put together at this point in their respective careers. It's a good deal.
    The Spurs are frighteningly thin on the frontline now, though. Bonner is useless. Are they banking on Ian? They need to make additional moves to shore that up. Use the mid-level exception on somebody (Pachulia?) and maybe make another trade.
  5. Tyrone Slothrop
    5. Posted by Tyrone Slothrop Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:39 pm EDT

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    I think it's a good deal for both sides. Of course it makes the first RJ deal bad for MIL, but I think it was bad from the jump. I think it's too bad they couldn't get one youngish cheap piece in return along with salary relief, but it was definitely necessary. As for SA if they can grab a legit PF/C with the MLE I'd say things are looking pretty good for them for next year.
  6. rick
    6. Posted by rick Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:42 pm EDT

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    The Beginning of Scrubs for Stars, the new show by cheap NBA franchises. Garbage.
  7. adyl
    7. Posted by adyl Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    I thought Tom Hammond would do an OK job as the Buck GM because he learned from Joe Dumars, but so for he has not.
  8. skyer
    8. Posted by skyer Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Nice move by the Spurs
  9. bgres07
    9. Posted by bgres07 Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    Jefferson sucked last year every single game I watched the Bucks play. See ya you overpaid underpoforming player.
  10. Peter K
    10. Posted by Peter K Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    Finally Joe "Vanilla Sky" Alexander will get an opportunity to spread his wings. Acting as a sponge and learning the position under RJ for a year should set him up well for future success. Good deal.
  11. Rise With Us
    11. Posted by Rise With Us Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:00 pm EDT

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    Could be a sweet deal if Bowen and Oberto get cut and come right back. Spurs will have a good team.
  12. LakersSinceDa80s
    12. Posted by LakersSinceDa80s Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    But he still cant guard the black mamba.....spurs time is done prepare for laker dominance
    09 and counting
  13. Arjun C
    13. Posted by Arjun C Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    great trade for the spurs. They should use the MLE on gortat (or maybe ariza if they can do that). If that happens and if they are healthy when the playoffs come (2 pretty big ifs) then I would say that the spurs could definitely beat the lakers in a 7 game series.
  14. Travis
    14. Posted by Travis Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    this is a good move by both teams, as long as the bucks cut those two guys and only keep thomas around. the move would clear room for joe alexander to get on the floor with redd, sessions, and, hopefully, bogut. maybe c.v. they could be competitive if they're healthy.
  15. Greg W
    15. Posted by Greg W Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    #12 - "09 and counting"? Seriously?
    Yeah, I guess a lot of Lakers fans do have trouble counting to one.
  16. Brian
    16. Posted by Brian Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    this trade would be vetoed so fast in fantasy. Great job by the spurs in acquiring RJ for nothing. They'll get Oberto back after Milwaukee buys him out.
    Why can't the Bulls be this smart, oh right, Paxson sucks.
  17. Jay
    17. Posted by Jay Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    Good trade
  18. Tom S
    18. Posted by Tom S Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    adyl - His name is John Hammond, not Tom Hammond. He is doing all he can to fix what Larry Harris screwed up. Good move Bucks.
  19. Redskins21
    19. Posted by Redskins21 Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    #12 I mean who can watch Kobe.. I'm a Cavs fan but Kobe is still #1 in the league I have to give it to him. This is a nice pick up for the Spurs. Maybe Cavs can pull Yao over somehow along with a nice PF who can score.. Hmmm Got Bosh !!!
  20. LakersSinceDa80s
    20. Posted by LakersSinceDa80s Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    10', 11', 12' these are the championships coming in the next couple years....learn about it!
  21. JONROB
    21. Posted by JONROB Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Wow a big deal for San Antonio. Could put them in the Title Hunt. Especially in they can get a couple of big men on the cheap.
  22. LakersSinceDa80s
    22. Posted by LakersSinceDa80s Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    and ur right no1 can check the KOBESTER.....
  23. James S
    23. Posted by James S Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    After the Bucks last decade of poor drafts and trades, the rumblings here in Milwaukee are that fans may decide to boycott games now as this management shows nothing.
  24. paul
    24. Posted by paul Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    still can't count a couple means 2

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