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Minnesota 106, Detroit 80

Detroit continues to have major offensive issues. The team was first in offensive efficiency at the time of the Allen Iverson trade, they've now dropped to 10th, and the defense has fallen off as well. Sunday was a pathetic showing, just 87 points per 100 possessions, and the final score actually indicates a game that was closer than it was. Only a 30-28 fourth quarter after Minnesota took it easy turned this into a regular blowout, instead of a shocker.

Defensively, the Pistons had no clue when it came to Randy Foye. Nobody in the Detroit backcourt could stop him, everyone got a chance, and the third-year guard finished with 23 points and 14 assists with just two turnovers. He just kept moving. Mike Miller continued his "I don't care about shooting anymore" turn with a nine-point, eight-rebound, and seven-assist game in only 24 minutes. And Al Jefferson (19 and eight boards) was nearly unstoppable in the third quarter.

Boston 118, Toronto 103

You keep thinking that a Raptor team like this is ready to turn the corner, ready for a definitive win that tells you that things are different now, but it never seems to show up. Then you tell yourself that, even at home, a 15-point loss to the defending champs doesn't seem out of the question. Even if you played them awfully close earlier in the month.

Then you look at the 118 points, and go right back to feeling lousy. Boston has had terrible issues offensively this season, so how can that happen? Then again, Boston isn't as bad as it has played offensively this year, Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins are bound to play better, and Tony Allen continues to round back into 2006-07ish form. Boston is so good. You have issues, still. It makes sense.

61.6 percent shooting for Boston. Goodness. That's a "players only meeting" sort of stat.

Philadelphia 89, Golden State 81

Philly in a nutshell: dominant in the first half with 57 points. Playing unsure of themselves and playing not to lose in the second with 32 points. And then Andre Miller has to clinch it, late.

Elton Brand (23 points), Andre Iguodala (15), and Thad Young all had OK games, but they needed a ton of shots to put up those numbers. Philly won this by nailing everything in the first half and by pulling down a ton of offensive rebounds (22 overall) over the course of the game.

Andris Biedrins finished the game with two fouls, eight rebounds, 10 points, four assists, three turnovers, two steals and two blocks. And I have no idea why he played only 30 minutes.

Los Angeles Lakers 118, Sacramento 108

Los Angeles' (rightfully) celebrated defense took the night off in this win, but it hardly mattered against a Kings team that has to try to out-shoot its opponents for the win, and (um ...) can't really out-shoot its opponents for the win.

The Lakers out-shot their opponents for the win, and dominated the glass. The ball was moving, 28 assists on 45 field goals, as eight of the nine Lakers that played scored in double-figures. Let's get it together, Machine.

Denver 114, Chicago 101

After a while, the excuses about not know the team personnel have to be overcome. The Bulls coaching staff has been in place for months, they've been legally practicing for nearly two months, and even though Vinny Del Negro, Del Harris, and Bernie Bickerstaff all had big roles on different teams this time last year, that doesn't mean a damn on November 23rd.

And it certainly doesn't mean you play three 6-3-and-under guards, a small forward with footspeed issues, and an undersized power forward down the stretch and expect to win. Don Nelson wouldn't even do that, and he rarely expects to win.

A bogus coaching job from Vinny Del Negro from beginning to end in this one, Denver took over in the fourth by spreading the floor and getting into the paint on a lineup that featured Lindsey Hunter, Derrick Rose, Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni, and Drew Gooden.

Del Negro's response to a series of layups and dunks was to bring in Aaron Gray to supposedly guard the rim. Of course, Gray's never changed a shot in his life because he's too slow, so the pattern continued. Denver enjoyed a 31-16 fourth quarter advantage as Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas get lied to again.

Kenyon Martin (26 points, eight rebounds, two blocks in 32 minutes) did not miss in 10 attempts from the field.

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  1. Roger Mason Jr. = Hero
    1. Posted by Roger Mason Jr. = Hero Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    Breaking:
    E Jordan out in DC:
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2008/11/jordan_fired.html
  2. eric b
    2. Posted by eric b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    Those Bulls lineups down the stretch made zero sense - the only time the Bulls were beating the Nuggets up is when the opposite lineups were in (Denver with 2 guards and 3 SFs on the floor and the Bulls with Noah, Gooden and Nocioni all on the floor together). Perhaps there is a lesson there - as in you play better when you have bigs on the floor to protect the rim and rebound (Nene, Martin, Gooden, Noah etc...).
    Is there any explanation to Mike Miller's newfound fondness for avoiding shots? He's hitting shots when he takes them and its really not that cool for Mike Miller fantasy owners (ugh). Is he really pissed about being in Minny? Does he want a trade? I can't imagine he's really excited about taking half as many shots as Bassy Telfair....
  3. Fran T
    3. Posted by Fran T Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    When did a 6'10, 250 pounder become undersized at the 4? or were you talking about his brain...
  4. hans k
    4. Posted by hans k Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    Wizards sack Jordan.! Not a suprise. That Priceton offense never wins any games..
  5. chillyfromphilly
    5. Posted by chillyfromphilly Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:33 pm EDT

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    none of those things should be surprising when they brought iverson to detroit. iverson, who has never been known as a defensive stopper, made randy foye look like chris paul. well he at least put up paul like numbers, (23 points, 13 assists) but thats gonna happen now that iverson is a piston. could chauncey score like iverson, nah, not really, but he took better shots and played much, much better defense.the good news is that piston fans will only have to put up with iverson for just this season. the bad news is that the season is just starting.
  6. KD
    6. Posted by KD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    There is NO way Gooden is 6-10, or even 6-9. He might have a half inch on Carlos Boozer, but that's about it.
    Though I have appreciated his effort this season a great deal. It almost makes up for all those 22 (not 19, not 20) footers.
  7. Asleep until further notice
    7. Posted by Asleep until further notice Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    Suit up Dumars. You will have to play the guard position soon.
  8. chillyfromphilly
    8. Posted by chillyfromphilly Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:33 pm EDT

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    the sixers seem to always start out slow, besides, they dont crown anybody champion in november. the sixers need to cut down on their own turnovers and create some for themselves. i still think that they"ll END up being one of the top 3 teams in the east. boston is still the best, some might say cleveland is next, but they cavs are a lebron injury away from the lottery again. who's number 3? toronto? magic? hawks? sixers? it's still too early to tell. maybe by the end of 2008 you can better tell.
  9. the REAL Headless Chicken
    9. Posted by the REAL Headless Chicken Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Hey KD, thanks for the message. Keep it up.
  10. BigDetroitFannn
    10. Posted by BigDetroitFannn Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:19 pm EDT

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    mah pistons are chokin'........
    :(
  11. Jimmy W
    11. Posted by Jimmy W Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    The A.I trade worked in Denver's favor
  12. Bell Curve
    12. Posted by Bell Curve Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:28 pm EDT

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    Boooo
  13. carlos z
    13. Posted by carlos z Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    ha ha east more competitive? no offense tupark but when the 4-8 seeds in the playoffs don't even have to be over 500 that doesn't say much about competitiveness.i think maybe oklahoma thunder could've had a chance at the playoffs if they weren't in the western conference.
  14. CtM
    14. Posted by CtM Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    #6. LaBron is built like a tank. He's pretty much indestructible. I don't think he'll get hurt this season. This is his year to win the MVP.

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