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As the NBA preseason marches on, Ball Don't Lie looks at all 30 teams, outlining off-season transactions, projecting win totals, spinning tracks, and much, much more. It's a fun, hot mess. Today, the Denver Nuggets.

Last Season: 50-32; lost in the first round of the playoffs to Lakers

Key Players Added: The Birdman Chris Andersen (free agent, CAW-CAW!), Dahntay Jones (free agent), Renaldo Balkman and cold cash considerations (trade, Knicks), Sonny Weems (draft-trade combo, I think)

Key Players Lost: Marcus Camby (trade, Clippers), Eduardo Najera (free agent, Nets), Yakhouba Diawara and his three languages (free agent, Heat), Bobby Jones and Taurean Green (trade, Knicks)


Kelly Dwyer's Endless Grey Ribbon: Every time you think you know what the Denver Nuggets are doing — guess what? — you don’t know what the Denver Nuggets are doing.

This is probably par for the course when you have two general managers working alongside a hands-on owner who employs a coach that fancies himself a general manager. And while the Nuggets have had a nice little playoff streak dating back to Andre Miller-led team that made the postseason in Carmelo Anthony’s 2003-04 rookie year, they’ve never felt like a contending threat.

Well, scratch that. Partially. All but the "felt" part. We really had no idea how this team would turn out playing over the course of a full season prior to 2007-08, and while most of us picked the same old first round exit, there still was a chance that something special could happen in the postseason, when the rotations pare down.

Of course, nobody could prepare us for how well this team played defense in the first half of the season, how poorly it played offense, and then how poorly it did both over the latter part of the year and in its (you guessed it) first round exit.

You see, because most still don’t understand that pace matters, you’ll still hear the clarion call about how the Nugs are a shoot-first, defend-later sort of team. And, if you only watched the group from mid-February to the playoffs last year (as a lot of cable guys usually do), that might make a little sense.

But if you force your opponents to shoot 42 percent from the field, and cause 19 turnovers, you’ve done a good defensive job. Even if you give up 107 points. Know why? Because that 107 points is inflated by the fact that you, on offense, are sometimes using up a possession in seven seconds or less.

So because of the sheer amount of times you shoot and give the other team the ball, the points are going to pile up. Even if it takes them three possessions to get two points (think about that level of efficiency), the points are going to pile up. And if you’re going to tell me that an ex-jock or cable TV talking head is prescient and knew it all along, well, you’re eventually going to tell me that Jerry Van Dyke has a car that channels his dead mother’s spirit.

And because people aren’t watching the games, or understanding how pace affects things, the easy answer is that "the Nuggets don’t defend." Which was ignorant analysis. Which, because there is no god, turned into spot-on analysis later in the year when the Nuggets decided to stop playing defense just in time for the national TV appearances to pile up.

I understand that this falls to the players to get it together, but with George Karl around, things aren’t going to pull together. Other teams that underachieve at least put in a good regular season run before tanking. George’s team just didn’t have it from the beginning. And even though they piled up points (again, pace), the team’s offense wasn’t all that great from the beginning.

The team went one-on-one endlessly, Karl never put together an offense that was greater than the sum of its parts; but few noticed this because the Nuggets were still throwing in 111 points on some nights even as they barely cracked the low 40s from the field, while turning the ball over. Again, you shoot enough at Denver’s league’s-fastest pace, and you’re going to put up net points. It doesn’t say anything about efficiency. It just says you take quick shots.

And unless Karl and the boys dug in with some soul-searching this summer, that doesn’t figure to change.

Know why? Because Karl, Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, and Kenyon Martin have huge martyr complexes. It’s always someone else’s fault with that group, and they have a ready-made excuse in hand as 2008-09 commences with the trading of Marcus Camby.

Yes, the trade stinks for the Nugs, but that’s the way it goes when you have four (and nearly five, with Nene) players making way over eight figures a year, and you only top out at two or three home playoff games per year. Paying huge sums of luxury tax money for a first round flameout … yeah, you’d trade Camby for nothing too.

Denver should still compete, because their raw talent is that good. They also have some parts for a trade, if all the cooks can get work together on a deal. The team’s deepest position is also where its best player works — small forward — though Linas Kleiza, Ruben Patterson, and Renaldo Balkman all have power forward ability.

Meanwhile, J.R. Smith’s likely ascension (he may be a dope, but he’s an effortless scorer at this point, and the Ricky Davis comparisons aren’t fair; Davis could never score like this) makes Iverson expendable. Problem is, AI makes nearly $21 million this year. Yikes. Not the easiest deal to deal, even if it is an expiring contract.

If he’s in shape, Nene will help the defense more than Camby might have anyway. You see, Kenyon Martin’s a preening schmo, who likes the big show-offy blocks, so he can work as your weak side defender. Meanwhile, Nene likes to run and move his feet, which Camby wasn’t doing last year. Nene will cover and show on screen and rolls. He’ll follow his man out to the perimeter. You might be surprised. Then again, he’ll have to be in shape, and healthy.

As you’ve likely guessed, I’m not feeling this team. That said, the predicted win total has more to do with an improving West, injury concerns, and the possibility of an Iverson trade for pennies on the dollar. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they knock off 45 wins again and make the postseason. Anything beyond that would involve an attitude adjustment, and I just don’t see it.

Expected Record: 37-45


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Real Talk, Blog Talk (aka excerpts from other blogger team previews):

Dime: "Overall, there are just too many 'ifs' and too many guys that will have to play out of their minds for the Nuggets to be a serious threat. Nene will have to play better than he ever has — like the man the Nuggets signed to a monster deal a couple years ago — to compensate for the lack of interior presence; not to mention he’ll have to stay on the court. K-Mart also has to stay healthy. 'Melo has to step up his defense and get his hands dirty in the paint. Smith needs to improve his shot selection and be the kind of solid defender his athletic ability allows. And while I’m never one to doubt A.I., he is 33 years old and has a ton of mileage on his body, maybe too much for another Herculean effort of putting an entire team on his shoulders for 82 games."

Pickaxe and Roll: "Many Nugget fans wanted Karl's head after last season, but the team stuck with him. Did the players stick with him as well?  The Nuggets have experienced their fair share of coach/player conflict in the playoffs and last season saw Carmelo Anthony yelling at Karl, 'Don't just sit there, do something!' while their season was going down in flames. After that Karl claimed he would coach 'his way' this season and so far the Nuggets have focused almost exclusively on defense although Karl did not go completely Norman Dale on them and conduct practices without a ball. It remains to be seen if Karl's way entails relocating slacking players to the bench, but to this point the players have bought in. If Karl pulls too tightly on the reins, it is not out of the question that he faces a mutiny at some point this season."

Hardwood Paroxysm: "Even though they traded away the former Defensive Player of the Year for some spare car parts and a roll of scotch tape, I believe these guys actually have the potential be a quality defensive team. Anybody who watched the Olympics knows Carmelo Anthony can actually play defense. He has lateral quickness. He has length. He can make the appropriate rotations. He just only seems to do that when he has "U.S.A." sown across his chest. The key to unlocking this defensive potential is pace. Denver likes to push the ball, but just as often as they take advantage of unprepared defenses they open themselves up to easy buckets. Obviously a slower pace wouldn't put up such gaudy offensive numbers but Anthony, A.I. and J.R. Smith don't need a wide open court to score: They are all dynamic half-court players. The problem with my analysis so far is I've made an assumption that is not necessarily true: I'm talking about the Nuggets as if Allen Iverson will still be a member of this squad at the end of the regular season. I just don't believe that to be true."

The Nugg Doctor: "The goal for this team is to not be content just making the playoffs, but to finally advance in the postseason. For five straight seasons the Nuggets have been one of only four teams in the league to make the playoffs in said consecutive years and are the only team to have not made it to the conference semis."


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  1. Roger Mason Jr. = Hero
    1. Posted by Roger Mason Jr. = Hero Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    KD - Not an unexpected post. I figured you'd use the Nuggets preview to tell pontificate about pace (which I get, but most don't). Here's a question for you: Do you think that the network announcers and the like will ever understand it? When you and I are in our 40's (from the posts, I've deduced we're contemporaries - most likely born the same year.) will the casual fan finally "get it"?
  2. Dante
    2. Posted by Dante Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    we got juwan howard now can you say championship
  3. KD
    3. Posted by KD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    TV guys won't get it until their viewers start demanding they do. And baseball fans have been demanding that TV types catch up for years, and they still haven't.
    I'm guessing 2038-ish.
  4. Rob A
    4. Posted by Rob A Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    haha, awesome Owen Hart reference...
  5. McChef
    5. Posted by McChef Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:01 pm EDT

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    Laphonso ellis and dikembe in nba jam!
  6. Mark E
    6. Posted by Mark E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:09 pm EDT

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    Sorry, but if you think Juwan Howard is the key to a championship, I'd like to talk to you about buying some beach front real estate in Kansas. He's about as much of a key to a championship as Jello is the key to cold fusion....
  7. Mr. L
    7. Posted by Mr. L Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    nuggets need to play defense and then they can be a good team.i still think that they can make the playoffs as the 8th but portland will give them a fight for that spot.
  8. Nuclear Douchebag
    8. Posted by Nuclear Douchebag Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    I see what you're saying, but if you look at defensive efficiency (vs. turnovers, shooting percentage allowed) rather than just points allowed, high pace offensive teams often DO play poorer defense, perhaps because: 1) the mental focus of players ends up on the offense so they focus less on defense (like a team in an all-star game), 2) quicker shots=longer shots and more misses=more long rebounds and fast breaks and numbers mismatches at the defensive end - especially if you have one or two slow footed big men on the court and 3) they seem to have less energy to defend strong on the other end. although, in theory, it doesn't have to be like this, it usually is.
  9. A Yahoo! User
    9. Posted by A Yahoo! User Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:12 pm EDT

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    dudes, if you want a fantastical season preview, go here:
    http://nbaonthebrain.blogspot.com/
  10. pho
    10. Posted by pho Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:54 pm EDT

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    shawn kemp was ridiculous.
  11. Brian C
    11. Posted by Brian C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    Detlef Schrempf # 1
  12. o
    12. Posted by o Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    another season of getting that 8th spot and losing in the 1st round....no wait..they let Camby go right?....ok...another season of just missing the playoffs
  13. lamachine
    13. Posted by lamachine Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:36 pm EDT

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    If my star power forward was smoking crack (Shawn Kemp) before games, I'd have probably lost that series too.
    Oh and to anyone who cares, what team would hnestly pick up Allen Iverson's contract right now? Only one I can think of is the Clips
  14. A Yahoo! User
    14. Posted by A Yahoo! User Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:16 pm EDT

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    the need defense cause they can score pretty good. they need a defensive big man down low but also a big man who can score. K-mart isnt like he use to be, the lost camby who bring the defense pressure, and the other big men to me just cant get the job done
  15. Shep D
    15. Posted by Shep D Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    I've only recently gotten back into basketball as a fan. Last years western conference playoffs were bonkers. I loved my pacers in the day but Ron Artest killed that, and I was only a casual fan.
    But I have been a massive fan of football for my entire life. My brother was talking about his fantasy team and he was trying to remember how many TD's some dude had on the season, I told him. He asked about another dude, I told him. 3 dudes later he asked how I knew that stuff, and IDK it just sticks. I love my football. Point is announcers suck. Local guys I usually like, they follow the team through every game. They dont watch one game every 4-5 weeks and assume that they know everything.
    The local guys notice the same things I do. Examples: Marvin Harrison drops alot of balls when he goes over the middle. when an annoucer sees marv drop a ball its always "you almost never see that" but the fans do. They comment on how dwight freeney hasn't had many sacks, but myself, the local announcers, and every fan in Indiana know he gets held on every play. Every play. They say stupid things that make no sense to anyone that know the team, they suck. Joe Buck (as much as he annoys me) and Troy Aikman are by far the best non primetime announcers. These former players can even read defense's. They'll say "marlin jackson got caught looking at the QB on that one, thats why he got beat." When marlin was in a cover2!
    I wish TV wasn't delayed so i could just turn my radio on over top of the game, it would make life so much less frustrating.
  16. CB
    16. Posted by CB Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm EDT

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    the nuggets should rock those old navy uni's one time this yr... but if the nugg's get rid of AI they would have 40 less tattoos still keeping them in 1st place with the most tatted team in sports history.. we dont want that to happen... 37 wins is still to low for this team.. i think there talent alone can get them maybe 10 more wins.. still wont be enough though in the West...
    Mutombo was a beast back then and shawn kemp's haircut was lame but would fit in perfectly with the way these cats rock their cuts down here in dallas tx... lol
  17. RobinH
    17. Posted by RobinH Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    Raptors in 6.!! A.I should come to T.O if he wants any shot at a title in the next 5 years!! Bosh and O'Neal are gonna get things mvoing here in Toronto! Holla!
  18. serpentor99
    18. Posted by serpentor99 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    JR makes AI expendable? Wasnt he the starter before AI came to town? Why did we trade Miller for AI and put Smith on the bench just to let him go and make JR a starter again? Should have just kept Andre I guess....the search for a point guard continues......
  19. Tornicade
    19. Posted by Tornicade Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:17 pm EDT

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    the denver nuggets had a -.8 fg% differential. a plus 3.7 points differenntial. negative .5 in steals ad positive.5 in blocks.
    It is all about defense. their oponents are attempting more shots per game and atempting more 3 pointers a game
    The team needs to rely more on defensive stops when they need them and less on free throw attempts and a marginally better shooting percentage..
  20. kevin d
    20. Posted by kevin d Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:36 pm EDT

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    guys you need to look at the match ups in the nba with other teams... i dont care what anybody says nuggets are winning at least 50 this year you watch and were definetely going to the west finals believe it!
  21. Ernest "Man of the People" E
    21. Posted by Ernest "Man of the People" E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    the 93-94 seattle seattle supersonics were soft like marshmellows and mutumbo was a defensive beast that year.
  22. Ernest "Man of the People" E
    22. Posted by Ernest "Man of the People" E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    the current group of nuggets will never get out of the first round all those guys care about it is making flashy plays not playing defense.
  23. Ernest "Man of the People" E
    23. Posted by Ernest "Man of the People" E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    kevin d what are you smoking you should give me some of that , the nuggets might win50 but there's no way on god's green earth those no defense playing bums are making it to the western conference finals.
  24. Ernest "Man of the People" E
    24. Posted by Ernest "Man of the People" E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    When D. Mutumbo was in his prime he would get triple digits blocks several times during the nba season ,he was a shot blocking machine.
  25. stephen w
    25. Posted by stephen w Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    They'll end their string of first round flameouts alright...by missing the playoffs

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