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Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:40 pm EDT

'Net reaction: Okafor-for-Chandler swap


The Hornets have agreed in principle to a trade that will send Tyson Chandler to the Bobcats for Emeka Okafor. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about the deal ...

Rufus On Fire: "There is no way this is about present day talent and it can't be about saving money in the present day; look up all the stats and scouting reports you want, but Chandler doesn't quite match up to Okafor, and he makes more money each of the next two seasons. If the Bobcats make this trade thinking they are getting the better present day player, it will be dumb luck if it works out in our favor. Okafor is an elite defender, whereas Chandler is very good when he's at his best, but Okafor's also had a better or equal PER each year they've both been in the league, and that's with lesser PGs in Charlotte (to say the least). I get the sense Chandler is in a similar place today that Okafor was two seasons ago. He is coming off injury-marred seasons, his offense is stagnant, and he's at a crossroads, in the sense that nobody's sure if he has any room to develop further. Except ... he's also the same age as Okafor, so he's older than Mek was then, and he also has never been quite the defender Okafor is and was."

Hornets247: "To be honest, despite that irritating (or so I'm told) optimism I've exuded, this deal comes as a relief.  Tyson Chandler(notes) is a top-10 center when healthy, and one that could push the top five. Emeka Okafor(notes) is also a top-10 center (though probably closer to 10 than 5) but he doesn't have the health risks of Tyson Chandler. Oh, and Okafor is 26 years old and under contract through 2013-14 when he turns thirty. Essentially, his prime years, admittedly for a hefty salary. I'm going to miss Chandler, but given the choice between a trade for Okafor or for Ben Wallace's(notes) retiring contract? Okafor is infinitely more palatable. For me, if not for George Shinn's wallet."

Empty The Bench: "Contracts aside, on paper this is a great fit for Okafor. He’s a tad undersized as a center, but the former U Conn standout is defensively proficient and a solid rebounder. Emeka is an opportunistic shot-blocker who boxes out well, takes up space defensively and provides some much-needed muscle. The knock on him is his complete lack of offensive game, and as such Okafor needs to be paired with another big man who can not just compensate for the lack of point production but also hit mid-range jumpers to stretch defenses and make his job a lot easier in the post and on the glass. Charlotte tried to find that complement, failing with both Sean May(notes) and Nazr Mohmmed. David West(notes) can be that scoring big man Okafor needs to be effective."

NBA FanHouse: "The conventional wisdom is that while Chandler is bombastic in the air, a true finisher, incoming Hornet Emeka Okafor is seen more as a deliberate, below-the-rim pivot player. That would seem to bode poorly for our visions of soft lobs and vicious hammers, and also for [Chris] Paul's assist numbers. But actually, Okafor will probably help Paul on offense. The reasoning is that while Okafor isn't known as a prolific finisher like Chandler, Okafor is actually quite a good finisher. Last season, he had 135 dunks in 82 games, or 1.6 dunks per game. Chandler had 89 dunks in 45 games, or 1.9 dunks per game. Last season, the pair had nearly identical field goal percentages of 56% (though admittedly Chandler has been stronger over the past four seasons)."

Basketball Fiend: "I realize Larry Brown is a grass is greener kind of guy (hence this quote on Okafor and his training habits versus his on-the-court habits), but trading substance for style is always a risky proposition. Brown doesn't seem to realize that Oke has been Charlotte's Iron Man the past two seasons. You have to wonder if he’s encouraging the Bobcats’ front office to trade Okafor away just for the sake of tinkering, on the off-chance that he’ll like Chandler more than he likes Okafor. Why? Because that’s just how Larry Brown is. For him, coaching a basketball player is like owning a car. Why settle for a solid, reliable model when there are plenty of flashier ones to test drive?"

Bobcats Baseline: "... even if you accept that Okafor is limited, that you’re not exactly going places with him, he’s still one of your main assets. Can’t you get more than Tyson Chandler back for him? Chandler is possibly even more limited than Okafor. He’s taller and more agile, probably a better one-on-one post-defender. Skill wise, that’s where the differences stop. Chandler is equally as inept as Okafor on the offensive end, scoring mostly on lobs from Chris Paul(notes) and putbacks. Like Okafor, Chandler has no low-post game of his own and no ability to hit a mid-range jumper. Furthermore, Chandler is coming off of a miserable season in which he struggled mightily with ankle and toe injuries. In fact, a mid-season trade to the Thunder was nixed when Chandler couldn’t pass muster with the Thunder’s doctor. There has been speculation that ankle/foot/toe problems might continue to haunt Chandler in the future. So sadly, we have to accept the reality that this deal is mostly about money."

Hollinger/TrueHoop: "Both players consistently have been honorable mentions in my all-defense picks, but Okafor is the superior scorer. That might not be saying much — both players are somewhat limited offensively — but Okafor can score on post-ups occasionally and make short bank shots, while Chandler's range ends at the charge circle. Over the past three seasons, Okafor has averaged nearly five more points per 40 minutes — that's big. The health disparity between the two also has been mentioned, but look closer, and I'm not sure there's any difference. Okafor has averaged 66 games per season over the course of his career, Chandler 67. Chandler has a bad toe that already nuked one trade, but Okafor has a problematic back. Okafor has played 82 games each of the past two seasons, but over their careers, their injury histories show little separation. Age isn't an issue either — they were born four days apart."

SLAM Online: "Basketball wise, the Hornets are the clear winners in this swap, adding a rock-solid low post presence to a team that won 49 games last season in the brutal West can only improve things for Chris Paul and company. It certainly won’t bring a championship to New Orleans, but it’s a message to their superstar (and the fans) that the team isn’t sitting on its hands while everyone else loads up; they’re at the very least attempting to remain competitive. Interestingly, Gerald Wallace(notes) is now the only Bobcat left over from the expansion season. I’m sure that makes him feel just wonderful."

Hornets Hype: "So the Hornets are trading Tyson Chandler. Again. And it looks like it’s going to go through this time. To tell you the truth, I’m relieved. Yes, I wanted us to keep TC. I wanted to see him get healthy and prove he could still be the player he was at his best. He was one of my favorite Hornets. But ... I know I would personally find it hard to give 100% to a team that you knew tried to give you away. I want Tyson on our team. But I also want him to get a fresh start. And I don’t want 'are we going to trade him or not?' hanging over our heads until February."

John Schuhmann, NBA.com: "It's good to see the Hornets attempt to join the arms race in the West and stay competitive. But on paper, they're still behind the Lakers, Spurs and Mavs and have perhaps pulled even with the Nuggets. Hornets GM Jeff Bower should get some credit for shaking things up, but this deal raises some serious questions. Is this more than just a lateral move on the court? Is Okafor going to give the Hornets more wins than a healthy Chandler would have this season? And is he going to be worth the $14.5 million the Hornets will owe him in 2013-14?"

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  1. Travis
    1. Posted by Travis Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:58 pm EDT

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    Come on, does anyone really feel like the Hornets are a much better team with Okafor now? No. They're not. A healthy Chandler is much more valuable than Okafor, but I know, I know, Chandler probably won't stay healthy. Admit this much, though: Okafor, the number 2 pick in the draft a few years ago, has been a disappointment. You don't draft #2 for 14 and 11 with average defense (yeah, I said it, he's an average defender because of his height). I don't think this trade is as horrible as everyone thinks for the Bobcats, and I'm hoping Crash Wallace can still lead that team to the playoffs this year. If, by some wild luck, Chandler stays healthy, Charlotte will compete in the East.
  2. Travis
    2. Posted by Travis Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:58 pm EDT

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    Come on, does anyone really feel like the Hornets are a much better team with Okafor now? No. They're not. A healthy Chandler is much more valuable than Okafor, but I know, I know, Chandler probably won't stay healthy. Admit this much, though: Okafor, the number 2 pick in the draft a few years ago, has been a disappointment. You don't draft #2 for 14 and 11 with average defense (yeah, I said it, he's an average defender because of his height). I don't think this trade is as horrible as everyone thinks for the Bobcats, and I'm hoping Crash Wallace can still lead that team to the playoffs this year. If, by some wild luck, Chandler stays healthy, Charlotte will compete in the East.
  3. GFunkClassic
    3. Posted by GFunkClassic Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:07 pm EDT

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    Travis, you're dead wrong. I think 14 and 11 is perfectly fine for a #2 pick, it could be worse you could draft Darko Milicic at #2. Okafor is more talented than Chandler, and a better rebounder, most likely because he boxes out and Chandler has no idea what that means. Charlotte will compete in the East....for the 8th-12th spots in the East.
  4. zhushietgau
    4. Posted by zhushietgau Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:07 pm EDT

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    no more alley oops! =(
  5. Travis
    5. Posted by Travis Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 pm EDT

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    GFunk: Maybe you're right. Chandler was a #2 in 2001 and has lower career averages. But then the Bobcats didn't make that mistake themselves. Okafor has a huge contract for a guy who's going to produce less than Paul Millsap, though. I maintain that he's been a disappointment in Charlotte -- hence the trade.
  6. Travis
    6. Posted by Travis Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:15 pm EDT

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    And it's totally not fair to bring up Darko!
  7. Jake B
    7. Posted by Jake B Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:44 pm EDT

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    I love Chris Paul, but come I don't like how undersized the front line for NO is. Can Hilton Armstrong be an even more reliable backup? I hope so, just for the sake of watching competitive basketball.
  8. Lyricstosing
    8. Posted by Lyricstosing Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:48 pm EDT

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    Hornets just got better....Okafor is a better player overall than Chandler.. good deal for the Hornets
  9. hmiller
    9. Posted by hmiller Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:05 pm EDT

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    "Okafor is more talented than Chandler"
    No way. Okafor is more skilled and polished, but Chandler has much more raw ability.
  10. QuAzY
    10. Posted by QuAzY Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:11 pm EDT

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    They both suck anyways ... I don't know which team benefitted from this trade ... but for me I'll choose Okafur over Chandler
  11. Nathan
    11. Posted by Nathan Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:19 pm EDT

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    Bobcats needed some scorers not another offense-less center
  12. Bibz
    12. Posted by Bibz Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:40 pm EDT

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    @Travis...Since it's "totally not fair to bring up Darko!" Lets take a look at all of this decades other #2 picks. Chandler career avg 8pts 9 rebounds, Jay Williams - Out of the league, Marvin Williams 12 & 6, Lamarcus Aldridge - 15 & 7 Michael Beasley 14 & 5. So out of all the other #2 picks this decade only Kevin Durant has better numbers. So how can you make a claim that Okafor's a disappointment? He got traded for another #2 pick with worse numbers and Okafor's the disappointment? Wow. In fact Okafor is the only #2 in the decade to average a double double. Its getting harder and harder to impress ppl these days I guess.
  13. gary
    13. Posted by gary Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    Boringggggggggggggggggggggggggggg..........
  14. Kevin V
    14. Posted by Kevin V Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    i bet that CP3 will make Okafor one of the elite center in the NBA, CP3 and Okafor would be like Nash and Amare of the Suns.
  15. Anton
    15. Posted by Anton Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    This sucks for Charlotte. It is really a downgrade.
  16. porifrealvizhun
    16. Posted by porifrealvizhun Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I just can't stop giggling "CP3 and Okafor will be like Nash and Amare" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
  17. Jones L
    17. Posted by Jones L Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Beside raw comparison on the 2 centers, let look at their feeders. CP3 vs felton?!?!? I think CP3 is better than felton, meaning Okafar number should go up and chandler should go down in up coming year. Of course, I may not necessary happen, since Okafor is undersized in Western conference. I guess, this trade has nothing to cheer about, just betting on health.
  18. Adil S
    18. Posted by Adil S Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:40 pm EDT

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    the first post, who said Okafor was an average defender for his height? That's like saying ben wallace is an average defender for his height.
    Hornets made a great trade and have a huge upside with this guy along with consistency at the center spot, while bobcats relieve over 40 million dollars on this contract (dumb to sign in the first place). Win- win situation, better hope that okafor can catch some lobs because that CP3 dribble penetration option will be sorely missed.
  19. PanamaFresh
    19. Posted by PanamaFresh Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:52 pm EDT

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    HORNETS247...Tyson Chandler a TOP 5 CENTER? HUH!? LOL! YOu got to be kidding me right?
  20. SwaggJeff
    20. Posted by SwaggJeff Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:08 pm EDT

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    not a bad trade for both teams. u unloaded a dumb contract and got something in exchange bobcats. Can Okafor run the floor in transition is the question if your okc? i bet the hornets would give away Peja if some1 would take him. But you know what, the hornets do damn well with the talent that they have!!
  21. SwaggJeff
    21. Posted by SwaggJeff Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:11 pm EDT

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    CP3 and Okafor the next Amare and Nash? Damn you can say anything on here huh. Call me Jordan 4th quarter in 92..............
  22. The Justice League
    22. Posted by The Justice League Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    okafor is waybetter than chandler but they both are limited
  23. The Justice League
    23. Posted by The Justice League Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    okafor is way better than chandler but they both are limited
  24. Jeff
    24. Posted by Jeff Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    Only time will tell. The trade could work well for both teams. Looking at supporting cast you have to say Oak will benefit way more. If Chandler stays healthy look out with Brown as coach. Larry can get alot out of his players. I like both teams and hope the trade works well for both. As a Pistons fan you would have to bring up Darko....thanks alot!!!!!!
  25. Swoosh
    25. Posted by Swoosh Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:49 pm EDT

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    The "experts" need to stop calling Okafor undersized. Even though he's only 6'10", he has a gigantic 7'4" wingspan which more than makes up for his height. His dimensions are equivalent to Dwight Howard. CP3 will find him open down low more often than the shoot-first PG's in Charlotte.

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