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Steve Nash(notes) and the Phoenix Suns have agreed on a two-year, $22 million contract extension, according to his agent Bill Duffy. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about the agreement.

Bright Side Of The Sun: "Without Nash, the Suns would have immediately taken a huge step backwards as there were no likely scenarios in which Steve could have been traded for a comparable young point guard. The league is filled with some amazing talent at the point but those teams were not going to trade their future for a couple of years of Nash. Great point guards don't grow on trees. So, given the option of letting Nash go and get even younger (but not better), the team did the right thing in keeping the 'face of the franchise.'"

Valley of the Suns: "... where do the Suns go from here? The Suns now have a solid mix of youth and veterans, as outside of Hill, Nash, and Richardson (28), everyone on the roster is 26 or younger. Nash finally has the chance to play 'Seven Seconds or Less' with no Shaq or Terry Porter ruining his mojo. The Suns finally get a full season under Alvin Gentry, a full season with J-Rich, and hopefully a full season with a healthy Amare Stoudemire. Yes, it would be extremely surprising if the Suns were sitting atop the Western Conference at the end of next season, but this wouldn’t be the first time a Nash-Stoudemire duo shocked the NBA world (see 2004-2005 season). Even if the Suns simply make the playoffs as a five or six seed and get bounced in the first round, at least they will be developing their future in Clark, Dragic, and Lopez along the way. Who better to learn the game from than two-time MVP Steve Nash and veteran stalwart Grant Hill(notes)?"

Paul Coro, The Arizona Republic: "The deal makes the final year of his current contract — at $13,125,000 — fully guaranteed. The extension, which pays the same as Stockton's 1999 deal at age 37, was limited to two years and is uninsured by NBA rules because Nash will be 36 when it kicks in next year. Nash will count against the salary cap for about $10.35 million in 2010-11 and $11.65 million in 2011-12, and he deferred $3 million of each year's salary to the two years after the contract expires. 'I know there are some financial constraints,' Nash's agent, Bill Duffy, said. 'Given that, Robert Sarver remains steadfast in his commitment to Steve and his belief that Steve can lead this organization to the top of the NBA. Steve believes that as well. I think there was a hiccup in the last year and a half, but they feel that can be corrected.' [...] Duffy said Nash believes the Suns can immediately return to the elite after the team re-signed his friend, Grant Hill; traded Shaquille O'Neal(notes); added Channing Frye(notes) and Earl Clark(notes); and did not trade Amaré Stoudemire."

NBA FanHouse: "Nash will be 38 years old by the time his new contract expires, suggesting the Suns will attempt to re-tool on the fly as opposed to blowing up the team and starting from scratch. As if having Father Time hot on his trail wasn't bad enough, Nash must also contend with Amar'e Stoudemire's(notes) contract situation. If Nash can't lead the Suns back among the Western Conference elite by the trade deadline, the Suns will almost certainly feel compelled to trade Stoudemire as opposed to losing him to free agency the following summer."

The Baseline: "... it seems like [Nash] got an offer too good to refuse, and figured that with all the uncertainty and competition looming next summer, he might as well secure his future. Most likely, this means Nash will retire without a ring. But was he really going to get one going to New York with, say, Amare, Bosh, or LeBron? While I don't want to say Steve Nash has given up, it certainly appears that, barring a minor miracle in a beefed-up West, he's sealed his fate and his place in history."

Dime: "... I think that Nash should have waited until 2010 and just latched onto a championship contending team. Phoenix didn’t even make the playoffs last year and will still be a borderline playoff squad next season. An old Nash and Grant Hill and a one-eyed Amar’e Stoudemire won’t be enough for Steve Kerr to get his Phoenix Suns back to glory."

Kevin Pelton, Basketball Prospectus: "If the Suns are to succeed, then, it will be by piling up the points at an historic pace. During the second half of last season, it was apparent that strategy was much more successful against bad teams than against good ones. Under Gentry, Phoenix went 12-2 against sub-.500 teams playing out the string, but just 6-11 against playoff teams. Therein lies the concern for the Suns. True contention doesn't seem to be in the cards. With Houston and potentially Utah taking steps backward next season, a playoff berth is a realistic possibility, but Phoenix would have to take an enormous step forward to compete with the West's best teams. The Suns' best hope for that leap comes from the return of Stoudemire, who will step in for O'Neal in the middle. If Stoudemire, who struggled in Porter's system, responds to a floor that is better spaced by improving his field-goal percentage, Phoenix's offense could be even more dangerous. Nash's age is something of a concern (as is Hill's), but he played excellent basketball under Gentry, posting a .664 True Shooting Percentage in March and April and averaging 13.8 assists per 40 minutes in the season's final month."

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  1. Max
    1. Posted by Max Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:27 pm EDT

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    Huh. Nash was less productive than Kidd last year, and I read plenty about how the Mavs payed to much for Kidd's services. No hate for this?
  2. game face
    2. Posted by game face Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:42 pm EDT

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    Steve Nash deserves it. He worked way too hard
  3. Ronald
    3. Posted by Ronald Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:10 pm EDT

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    WTF, Kidd is better than nash at this point. Nash doesn't even play defense, and he always whines. What a chump ! Nash is an overrated 2x MVP that doesn't play defense wtf..
  4. kenikenken
    4. Posted by kenikenken Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:25 pm EDT

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    Nash deserves it.
  5. KneeJerkNBA
    5. Posted by KneeJerkNBA Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:25 pm EDT

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    Nash is set to join Stockton (and most likely Kidd) as one of the great 'pure PGs' to retire without any hardware.
  6. Saleem
    6. Posted by Saleem Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:28 pm EDT

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    what r u talking about kidd was more productive? Steve Nash was again near the top of the league in assists per game(2nd). Nash has been more productive than Kidd since 04...and that aint gonna change any time soon, its not like Kidd is magically gonna turn younger than Nash...
  7. kev2133
    7. Posted by kev2133 Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:37 pm EDT

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    witness2sports.wordpress.com
  8. David Tong (TheVeed)
    8. Posted by David Tong (TheVeed) Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:54 pm EDT

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    Kidd over Nash? What year were you watching and were you watching VHS tapes? ROFL....
  9. TsogB
    9. Posted by TsogB Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:18 pm EDT

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    haha will kidds team made the playoffs . suns couldnt even make the playoffs
  10. Big Pimpin
    10. Posted by Big Pimpin Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:33 pm EDT

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    Who has had better overall teams, Nash or Kidd ?? No contest, let me help u here, KIDD !!!
  11. Big Pimpin
    11. Posted by Big Pimpin Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:34 pm EDT

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    Who has had better overall teams, Nash or Kidd ?? No contest, let me help u here, KIDD !!!
  12. mexicanskiier
    12. Posted by mexicanskiier Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    yeah, big pimpin, you may be right but neither is making the playoffs. Plus, the suns are no longer attempting to make the playoffs while Dallas is pulling all the stops and they might not even make the playoffs.
    Better decisions by the the teams ownership, Nash or Kidd ?? No contest let me help u here, NASH !!!
  13. Saleem
    13. Posted by Saleem Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:53 pm EDT

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    Nash ftw, in terms of the past 5 years...but career wise Kidd has been better for longer, he wan an all-star player from his rookie season on. but right now, like i was sayin, Nash Kidd.
  14. SL
    14. Posted by SL Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:53 pm EDT

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    Don;t second guess Nash. Cuban did and he missed at least two champion ring
  15. Kid M
    15. Posted by Kid M Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    "Don;t second guess Nash. Cuban did and he missed at least two champion ring"
    Dallas played for the championship without Steve Nash. The Suns haven't played for any championships with Steve Nash,so what exactly is your point.
  16. j l
    16. Posted by j l Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Nash is washed up. He needs to retire. He is the franchise player for the Suns and he is also the owner. That's why he is still there. Player/Owner/Coach Steve Nash. Why everyone keeps blameing Shaq for the Suns poor play, I don,t know. Blame Nash and the team leader. They need to play Defence. Nash has no D at all. Nash has nothing left but his handles. No consistancy in his shooting, and turnover happy. GET SOME DEFENSE, AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT GET A RING PHOENIX!!!
  17. Eddie T
    17. Posted by Eddie T Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Nash is sick 50/40/90 dont know who else couldve done that???(BIRD) and all those sick dimes. Screw all you haters on stevie. His D is not elite but at the sametime its underrated given his size and frame. Anyone who watches suns games know that when a fast break is going on you can count on number 13 to step in and draw a charge. And kidd aint got no hardware (maurice podoloff trophy?) Stevie's got TWO! Suckas!!! lol
  18. hans k
    18. Posted by hans k Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    Great player! Works harder than any other player in the league. Give effort and you will be rewarded!
  19. hans k
    19. Posted by hans k Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    I'm reading ' seven seconds or less', Go Suns!
  20. the bear
    20. Posted by the bear Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    Shaq highlighted Nash's defensive deficiencies in the pick and roll and was miserable with help defense. On offense Shaq clogged the lane, taking away Nash's ability to create which is second to none (just look at the money he made Q-Rich, Tim Thomas, James Jones, etc. who were all exposed once they left). He has Hall-of-Fame FT, FG, and 3pt%(no consistancy in his shooting?!?!?!). This team is better by subtraction. Just watch what happens to the Cavs next season!
  21. MAX_IN_MISSOURI
    21. Posted by MAX_IN_MISSOURI Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    The Suns traded their BEST PLAYER IN SHAQ and now think they will magically be better because he isn't there???? Are you kidding????
    Shaq was by far the best player on the Suns last year, hands down. No one else was close. For Nash's agent to suggest that he was a big mistake is simply foolish. Bill Duffy can suck it dry
  22. MAX_IN_MISSOURI
    22. Posted by MAX_IN_MISSOURI Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Nash deserved his 2nd MVP, but Shaq got screwed on the the one before that. It should have been the Diesel's, definitely
  23. the bear
    23. Posted by the bear Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Hey MAX, you saying the 08-09 Suns were better than the pre-Shaq suns?
  24. Get a real sport
    24. Posted by Get a real sport Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:40 pm EDT

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    Has there been any player in the leauge history to win two MVP awards without reaching the finals ever?
  25. sk1zm52
    25. Posted by sk1zm52 Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:41 pm EDT

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    @16, how can you cite "inconsistent shooting" when he shot over 50% from the field, 40% from three, and 90% from the line? Anyone who actually watches the Suns knows how incredibly important he will be for our team's success the next few years. Still one of the best in the business and I think the Suns are a playoff lock (albeit maybe a 6 or 7 seed) next year.

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