Ball Don't Lie - NBA

Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:05 am EDT

'Net reaction: NBA Finals, Game 4


Scanning the blogs and beats following the Lakers' 99-91 OT win over the Magic in Game 4 of the Finals ...

Forum Blue and Gold: "This game is proof as to why we keep the faith in our players. This game is proof as to why we don’t bury our own guys; we don’t throw our own guys under the bus. Because our faith is rewarded. Everyone under the sun was calling for Phil to bench Fisher and play more Shannon Brown(notes) (myself included). Tell me, does anyone honestly believe that anyone outside of Bryant could have made those two shots other than Fisher? Through all his struggles, all the 1-8, 1-7 shooting games, our coaching staff kept the faith in Fisher. Even when he was getting crushed by Deron Williams(notes), Aaron Brooks(notes), Chauncey Billups(notes), and Rafer Alston(notes), the coaching still kept calling his number, sending him in during crunch time, sending him to battle when the games were on the line. And for their faith, they were rewarded with the most crucial victory of the season, delivered to us by one and only Derek Fisher(notes). This is the stuff of legends; the stuff that only becomes more endearing when you’ve lived through his struggles as we all have."

Orlando Magic Daily: "... forget everything you’ve heard about the home team having the advantage going into the extra overtime. The Magic had no momentum tonight. It was dead. All 18,000-plus were stunned and silent. The offense went motionless as three players stood and watched Hedo Turkoglu(notes) try to force the issue on pick-and-rolls. It wasn’t there. The Magic should’ve gone to something else — Dwight in the post, Rashard in isolation, Pietrus working through off-the-ball screens … anything. It’s too bad, because it could’ve gone down as a historic performance from Dwight Howard(notes). No big man has ever reached a triple-double in points, rebounds and blocks in NBA Finals history, and Howard was one block away from that feat tonight. Think about it — Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Wilt, Russell, Duncan, Robinson — none of those guys blocked as many shots as Dwight did tonight."

Silver Screen and Roll: "... congratulations to the Los Angeles Lakers, 2009 NBA Champions!!! I know it's one game premature, but c'mon, this thing is O-V-E-R. The proof is in the pudding. If you're a stat junkie consider this: the Lakers have three chances to win just one game, two of which are at home. Now, considering that we have the second best home record in the league, have yet to lose two games in a row in these playoffs, and have yet to lose three games in a row since Pau joined us last year (did I mention that he is underrated?). I'd say that those are pretty good odds. For those of you who ascribe to more of a Zen Master mind-game philosophy, last night's win was like telling Orlando that not even their own mamas love them. It was the soul-crusher, the dagger to the heart, the realization that despite 5+ chances to be up 3-1 instead of down, they just can't close the Lakers out."

Bill Plaschke, Los Angeles Times: "Typical Fish. At the end of the most indelible game of his enduring Lakers career, Derek Fisher disappeared. He was swallowed by the long limbs of Lamar Odom(notes), the long embrace of Andrew Bynum(notes), the long hair of Sasha Vujacic(notes). His bald head was hidden in somebody's warmup jacket. His short arms were wrapped in somebody's giant ones. After both tying and winning a game that will propel his team to an NBA championship, he was immediately enveloped not by camera lights but teammates, lost not in glamour but love, the most unassuming Laker never even having a chance to pump a fist. Typical Fish. Don't worry, after what happened Thursday night in front of a crowd that was stunned into silence, you'll see him again. After his two jaw-flooring three-pointers led the Lakers to a 99-91 overtime victory against the Orlando Magic in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, you'll now officially be seeing him forever."

Brian Schmitz, Orlando Sentinel: "They've taken their fans on a wild, wondrous journey since October and defied the kind of odds this postseason that gets you in Ripley's and makes Vegas blush. The Orlando Magic now will have to top their own comeback act, dipping deep into the well of improbability to drink in a championship. After falling to the Los Angeles Lakers 99-91 in a bitter overtime loss on Thursday night at Amway Arena, the Magic trail 3-1 in the NBA Finals. The Magic not only must buck history heading into Game 5 on Sunday — no team has ever rebounded from this deficit in the Finals to win the title — but they must get past perhaps an equally formidable obstacle. Kobe."

TrueHoop: "Stan Van Gundy brushed off the notion that Finals experience means much of anything, pointing out that basketball is a simple game and every player on the court has the benefit of having played thousands of games. The rules don't change in the Finals. It's an enticing point. But consider the position of the Lakers here. With nothing more than one more tremendous effort, they can probably win the title they have craved for more than a half-decade on Sunday. Or, they can play with fire, as they did in 2000, and lose to a devil-may-care opponent, and roll the dice in Games 6 and 7. I don't know what's going to happen in Game 5 — but with memories of 2000's Game 5 vivid in the memories of Phil Jackson, Brian Shaw, Kobe Bryant(notes), Derek Fisher, Mitch Kupchak and others in the Laker organization, I'd be shocked if the Lakers don't arrive 100% motivated on Sunday. Call it experience, professionalism, or anything else you want ... it tends to work."

Lakers Blog: "... it's hard to figure out exactly how the Lakers won this game  Fair statement on his part. To say the least, this was a goony bird, haywire barn burner that borderline defines description. Down by a dozen at the half, the Lakers appeared anything but a team on the verge of pulling out one stunning comeback for the ages. 33% shooting from the field.  Foul trouble plaguing the Lakers (most notably, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom). Dwight Howard dominating to the tune of five blocks and fourteen boards, the latter figure matching the Lakers' entire tally. In a nutshell, not a damn thing gone right. Packing it in would have been easy. Playing hard-but-unfocused would have been somewhat more commendable, if not necessarily more productive. Instead, the Lakers weathered one ugly storm and came out smiling for their troubles. To attempt an explanation, I think one word might sum the outcome up: perseverance."

Empty The Bench: "Kobe is strong as hell. In the first half, he ripped the ball out of Howard’s hands, prompting a foul from a pissed-off Superman. Then he completely pulls Howard to the floor with 11.1 seconds left so that he can’t get an open dunk. This feat of strength turns out to be a game winner, as Howard klunks both free throws, keeping the Lakers within one basket."

Talk Hoops: "The Magic lost this game because they were their own worst enemy. The constantly made poor decisions that led to turnovers. They allowed the Lakers to turn those poor passes/decisions into easy points  The Magic were successful in getting the Lakers bigs into foul trouble (There was a D.J. Mbenga(notes) sighting for four minutes), but they didn't capitalize on their constant trips to the foul line. Howard had those two big misses at the end of the game, but those free throws would have been moot if not for his other six misses at the line or Hedo Turkoglu's five missed free throws. Teams that shoot this poorly from the line and turn the ball over this often are just asking to lose close games."

Basketball-Reference.com Blog: "... this was the third game of the series in which [the Magic] struggled to consistently score. With an offensive rating of 95.8 in Game 4, they are now averaging just 101.6 pts/100 poss on the series, and 94.1 if you toss out the aberrant hot streak of Game 3. Howard struggled for the 3rd time in 4 games, Lee continued his abysmal performance (he was so bad he got yanked with 8 minutes left in the 3rd and never saw the floor again), and even Rashard Lewis(notes), heretofore the Magic’s standby offensive dynamo when all else was going wrong, couldn’t really get his shot and misfired in the rare cases he did. And did you see the botched side-out plays at the end of regulation? If I’m a Magic fan, I’m really worried about the Lakers’ proven ability to clamp down on Orlando’s offense during this series. And if you need to shoot 63% in order to win, I’m afraid that’s a pretty unrealistic expectation game in and game out."

The Puns Are Starting To Bore Me: "It's so funny as a fan how you can go from complete euphoria and the highest high to the lowest low. This is a game once the Lakers win the title that Lakers fans will remember for the rest of their lives. Derek Fisher coming through in the clutch again and getting his team within inches of a title. As a Magic fan you will never forget where you were for Game 4 as you slowly watched any real chance at the title fly out the window with Dwight's missed free throws and again Fisher's heroics. Even if this is over on Sunday the big picture tells me this team was not supposed to be in the Finals and will grow tremendously from this experience. The other part of me wonders if this team has three more fights in them to pull of the impossible. Logic says no but my heart so badly wants to say yes."

Bonus video: Check out the highlight of Game 4. Yoink!

digg delicious
more

326 Comments

Post a Comment
  1. Redskins21
    1. Posted by Redskins21 Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:21 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Nice clutch shot Fish...Even though I'ma Cavs fan. I don't knock greatness.. Awwww we'll see ya next year lakers. CAvs 2010 ChamPs
  2. Redskins21
    2. Posted by Redskins21 Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:25 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    And D12 missing those freethrows.. Didn't they just have a big Article yesterday about how he arrived like an hour earlier then usual to get some extra practice time at the Line.. That was just horrible. If I was a Magic fans I would have been sick to my stomach after the 2nd miss. all he needed was one.. pressure cracks pipes I guess. I doubt that this series goes back to LA. I hope cause there really nothing else on TV. Come on NFL
  3. SCSF- LA where repeats and 3-peats happen!
    3. Posted by SCSF- LA where repeats and 3-peats happen! Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:28 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    1 MORE TO GO to title 16 (15NBA/1NBL)
  4. pinoy
    4. Posted by pinoy Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:29 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    If Magic fans only yearn for Howard's triple double to satisfy their stats hunger, then Laker can give it to them granted they limit the rest of the team on Sunday.
  5. Hitman
    5. Posted by Hitman Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:33 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    The Orlando Chokers, led by the Master of Panic. Enough said.
  6. habs1rule
    6. Posted by habs1rule Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:34 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    LAKERSSSSSSSS I;m Starting to think Gasol isnt a total B-Itch anymoe..
  7. DAR
    7. Posted by DAR Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:42 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    The fish that saved los angeles!!!
  8. Helen D
    8. Posted by Helen D Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:43 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    ginebra pa rin
  9. Luis J
    9. Posted by Luis J Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:47 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    LAKER Haters where are you?
  10. disciplelord
    10. Posted by disciplelord Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:48 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Bottom line, MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS!!!! My advice, send in Gortat instead of Howard during closing minutes. At least, Gortat is decent at the line. Nice game, D12 but all we're asking is one free throw in. D@mn.
  11. Luis J
    11. Posted by Luis J Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:55 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Post 11 Money H there's no succh thing as "Lucky Shots" when Fisher makes them.
  12. Andrew K
    12. Posted by Andrew K Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:58 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Most underappreciated part of the Lakers? Their inbound defense.
  13. Timothy
    13. Posted by Timothy Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:59 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Fisher made a great shot to tie the game at the end of regulation, but he was helped by some explicably brainless defending.
  14. Tim and Linda
    14. Posted by Tim and Linda Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:00 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Funny how those who call the Lakers the Fakers are now hiding.
    Their teams didn't make it this far and will not be getting any championship rings. All that bravado BS about their teams being much better than the Lakers was for not........we are the champions in just one more game. Thanks Koby and team.
  15. tall john
    15. Posted by tall john Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:02 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    HMMM... wonder if the Lake Show will LET the Magic win game 5 so they can come home & win in LA?... or they gonna celebrate in Orlando? Disneyland or DisneyWorld? Tough decision!!!
  16. PISTOL PETE
    16. Posted by PISTOL PETE Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:04 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Bottom line...Lakers have the experience and play the best when under pressure..Magic does not...Lakers in 6!!!
  17. Hitman
    17. Posted by Hitman Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:12 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    The" Master of Panic" has scheduled a team viewing of the movie " Titanic". Dwight Howard has recieved his union card certifying him as a "Master Bricklayer". Pat Riley has been offered the Head Coaching job for game 5- the Orlando Chokers finally have a realistic chance to win a game.
  18. Steve-O
    18. Posted by Steve-O Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:15 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Yeah you all seem to be forgetting the piss poor officiating in the 3rd quarter that allowed the lakers to catch up. oh and not to mention the cheap elbow that kobe threw at jameer nelsons jaw. if the lakers win this will be a title tainted by terrible officiating. bottom line the lakers are a bunch of cheap shot throwing trash talking punks.
  19. k
    19. Posted by k Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:17 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    I have to agree, GASOL AIN'T SOFT. His initial reaction to being double punched in the back was priceless. It was obviously a flagrant foul. I want to see what the league is going to do.
    Lastly, this talk about Gasol rubbing it in by dunking in the last seconds of the game. This is the finals, he was under the basket, and the game was still in play. Come on!
    I LOVE LA!
    LET'S GO LAKERS!!!!!
  20. Joe T
    20. Posted by Joe T Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:18 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Had the Magic hit another free throw in regulation, had the Lakers lost, everyone would be talking about the free throw disparity (37-20). Time and time again Kobe drove the lane and was hammered by Orlando players with nary a whistle to be heard. Time and time again, the Magic were bailed out by the refs on ticky tack calls that easily could have passed as incidental contact. It's clear the league and it's 3 long pantsed representatives on the floor wanted to stretch this series at least another game. Lakers played 5 against 8 last night and still came out on top. This would have been a shining victory for the refs, had the Magic not choked at the line time after time, had Kobe and Fish not done everything in their power to push the game an extra five minutes and steal one from the league. In spite of some of the most lopsided refereeing this lopsided post-season has yet seen, the Lakers found a way to get the win and put their long-coveted championship within arms' reach. Lakers in 5.
  21. Scoottie
    21. Posted by Scoottie Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:19 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Fish is the man. He might never get into the hall of fame but he should. He comes to work and plays harder then anyone every single game.
  22. jeezee10
    22. Posted by jeezee10 Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Lots of uncalled fouls against both teams with the Lakers favored as the foul on Kobe on the dying minutes wasn't called.
    But blame the Magic coach for this loss. The offense was stagnant and limited to Turkoglu and Howard when it counted most, in the fourth quarter. It was obvious they will go to Howard when he put Jameer Neslon in the game - to make assists to Howard. The trouble is Nelson can't score and disrupt the Lakers defense as good as Alston does. And Howard is not a good free throw shooter so the Lakers fouled him once he got the ball inside. So, puff goes the Magic team! The Lakers made them disappear.
  23. Thought
    23. Posted by Thought Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:25 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    It's funny how nobody (Kobe/Lakers lovers) speaks of how Kobe elbowed Howard or pulled him down to the floor. Wasnt Howard made to miss a game because of that similar behavior? Interesting how, it's ok because it's playoff finals. As if those werent bad enough he elbows Nelson to the floor and Fisher scores a 3 causing huge game momentum shift. What if something were called for any of those plays resulting in Magic freethrows? Would things look different then? Sure people can say that the Magic missed free throws & turnovers etc but the bottomline is officiating is what cost the Magic that game. Sure it'd be nice for Kobe to catchup to Shaq but without such poor officiating aid would be nice also. Odd how none of the 'analysts or commentators' are speaking of these horrendous no-calls. One would think that the Lakers would want to win on their own merit and not that of bad officiating for those 'non-calls.' The best solution to resolve this is for it to go 7 games where whichever team wins does so on their own merit of that one game. That's 2 games that the Lakers won due to non-calls. The first being where Gasol not only hit the net, but pushed the rim upward on Lee's layup. Those rims are breakawy rims and it definitely should have been called despite all the other game 'questionable' occurences. Between Gasol's flops and Kobe's offensive physical lashing out anger, it would only be fair to see this in 7 games and that would erase the bad no-calls letting the 2 teams go head to head. I don't know who in their right mind would be appreciative of winning a championship on such terms because too any non-biased viewer, the thinking would be it's "rigged" to go in one teams favor.
  24. Luis M
    24. Posted by Luis M Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:30 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    Stop complaining about the elbow that kobe through. dwight howard is the master of elbow throughing. now cry me a river magic fans cause your team has no chance
  25. Thought
    25. Posted by Thought Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:36 am EDT

    Report Abuse

    It's funny how nobody (Kobe/Lakers lovers) speaks of how Kobe elbowed Howard or pulled him down to the floor. Wasnt Howard made to miss a game because of that similar behavior? Interesting how, it's ok because it's playoff finals. As if those werent bad enough he elbows Nelson to the floor and Fisher scores a 3 causing huge game momentum shift. What if something were called for any of those plays resulting in Magic freethrows? Would things look different then? Sure people can say that the Magic missed free throws & turnovers etc but the bottomline is officiating is what cost the Magic that game. Sure it'd be nice for Kobe to catchup to Shaq but without such poor officiating aid would be nice also. Odd how none of the 'analysts or commentators' are speaking of these horrendous no-calls. One would think that the Lakers would want to win on their own merit and not that of bad officiating for those 'non-calls.' The best solution to resolve this is for it to go 7 games where whichever team wins does so on their own merit of that one game. That's 2 games that the Lakers won due to non-calls. The first being where Gasol not only hit the net, but pushed the rim upward on Lee's layup. Those rims are breakawy rims and it definitely should have been called despite all the other game 'questionable' occurences. Between Gasol's flops and Kobe's offensive physical lashing out anger, it would only be fair to see this in 7 games and that would erase the bad no-calls letting the 2 teams go head to head. I don't know who in their right mind would be appreciative of winning a championship on such terms because too any non-biased viewer, the thinking would be it's "rigged" to go in one teams favor.

Ball Don't Lie

Add to My Yahoo! RSS

J.E. Skeets

Ball Don't Lie is an NBA blog edited by J.E. Skeets. Email him, and follow him on Twitter.

Teams

Customize to follow news and rumors on your favorite teams. [ Sign in ]

Related Photo Gallery

Featured NBA Video

Y! Sports Blogs

Ball Don't Lie Recent Readers