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Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:55 am EST

Wreck of the week: Juan Pablo, Carl and Jeff go dancing

By Jay Busbee

The wreck of the week was, without question, Jimmie Johnson's lap-three blowout in Texas. But since we've already covered that, let's take a look at another wreck that, in some small way, could affect the pace of the Chase. Juan Pablo Montoya got into the back of Carl Edwards, and Jeff Gordon spun in the ensuing melee -- that's two of Johnson's three closest pursuers involved. (Sorry, Carl.) Anyway, here's how it unfolded:

Gordon was able to recover somewhat, but Montoya was done for the day and the Chase. Somehow, though, I think we'll see him again.

Related: Carl Edwards, Jeff Gordon, Juan Pablo Montoya, Jimmie Johnson, Wreck of the week

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  1. MarkN
    1. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:19 am EST

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    JPM got loose just a racing deal.
  2. MarkN
    2. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:19 am EST

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    JPM got loose just a racing deal.
  3. cg5995
    3. Posted by cg5995 Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:22 am EST

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    Yes he did get loose. I think he can drive a racecar but it just seems every time he has a wreck, its someone elses fault! Man up Juan Pablo, real men DO say they are sorry and they DO accept the blame when its THIER fault!!
  4. Jim T.
    4. Posted by Jim T. Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:36 am EST

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    I'm sure packerd will thinks JPM is "sorry"
  5. MarkN
    5. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:50 am EST

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    cg it wasn't total JPM's fault he just drives the car his crew chief should be at fault.LOL
  6. cg5995
    6. Posted by cg5995 Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:09 am EST

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    LOL Markn but he blamed it on Carl , and the week before he said every time he's around Jeff Gordon, Jeff races the hell out of him.Is he supposed to pull over for Juan or what?? LOL
  7. Dani
    7. Posted by Dani Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:43 am EST

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    LoL... maybe his spotter said, CLEAR!!!
  8. MarkN
    8. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:11 pm EST

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    JimT Packerd will only think that way because it involed Carl. Put another owners car where Carls was and there wouldn't be a problem. Carl's year was done a long time ago, Carl even admitted to that 1/3 of the way into the season.
  9. Willy Doer
    9. Posted by Willy Doer Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:25 pm EST

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    That would be acceptable if the spotters job was to clear the FRONT of the car....sadly, that is the drivers job. lol
  10. packerd_00
    10. Posted by packerd_00 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:38 pm EST

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    Jim T.-Juans not sorry for anything,he's a greasy sob
    MarkN-Lol! got loose yeah right into Carl you already used that one on your bf Davey, I bet youd say that if a Roush guy had done it instead. You couldnt be more transparent. Juans the only tool that will take a guy out and then turn it around on that guy.
    Actually their smart guy ive said a number of times that I think Juan is a dirty driver. You talk aload of bull, ofcourse ill care more if its my driver,you dont take a driver out and blame him the guy is that arrogant he wont admit his own mistakes.
  11. packerd_00
    11. Posted by packerd_00 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:44 pm EST

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    cg-Juans got no class,he came into Nascar with the attitude that he would dominate everybody.
  12. nididmartin
    12. Posted by nididmartin Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:44 pm EST

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    JPM is always blaming someone else for his problems; but I think he's too aggresive w/out knowing how to handle that big NASCAR!! He has caused lots of wrecks--with someone else at fault!! (Naturally) Carl always blames himself even when it IS someone else's fault!! GO GUYS--only 2 left!!
  13. Oliver Klosov
    13. Posted by Oliver Klosov Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:52 pm EST

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    send that non-driving turd back to wence he came...
  14. MarkN
    14. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:18 pm EST

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    Packerd read into it what you want while you wear those broken down Roush colored glasses . I call them like I see them and even stuck up for Jr. earlier in the season.Did JPM run into Carl? Yes on purpose ?No. Racing mistake ? Yes!Just like yesterday when I said Reut. made a mistake and hit Hornish. I might have a bf but unlike you who has a stable full of bf's. and one old guy that wears a straw hat.
  15. MarkN
    15. Posted by MarkN Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:23 pm EST

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    Packerd go check out the post from yesterday where we were talking about the Nation Wide guys looks like your on the boat by yourself on that one.
  16. packerd_00
    16. Posted by packerd_00 Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:07 pm EST

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    MarkN-You call them like you see them is excatly right as you see them not as anyone else sees them. You come out with the loose driving argument, and conveiently miss the whole point entierly that Juan blamed Carl for his own actions thats just ignorant.
    He didnt do on purpose but he sure didnt give a damn that he took someone out with him and shoved the blame on the victim in my book the two instances arent very diffrent.
    #15-Since when have I cared if anybody agreed with me on a certain subject or not.
  17. Jim T.
    17. Posted by Jim T. Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:40 pm EST

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    There is a fine line between a racing mistake and reckless driving.
  18. Rudy88
    18. Posted by Rudy88 Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:02 am EST

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    Jim T If a pro driver makes a mistake, wouldn't you call that "reckless driving"? Just wondering!
  19. MarkN
    19. Posted by MarkN Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:17 am EST

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    Packerd I don't give a crap what the driver says either driver. JPM can complain all day that is was Carl's fault but it wasn't. He got loose went up the track into Carl, racing deal. If anyone should have been upset it was Jeff he was the only one out of the 3 of them that had anything to loose.
    JimT I think there is a difference between driving hard and taking someone out on purpose.The difference is turning left or right.
  20. Jim T.
    20. Posted by Jim T. Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:51 am EST

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    Rudy- Everybody makes mistakes pro or not. If you over drive a car thats loose or you can't control to the point you wreck it or somebody else then I call that wreckless driving. Clipping the quarter panel of a loose car in a pack and wrecking other cars is wreckless to me. Some call it "aggressive". Others call it a "mistake". Bottom line is if your a "Pro" your not supposed to make mistakes very often. Thats just my opinion
  21. Rudy88
    21. Posted by Rudy88 Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:45 am EST

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    Jim T - I agree about the fine line, and in fact it's so fine that sometimes it's hard to define it. That's why we get so many opinions when something happens.
  22. packerd_00
    22. Posted by packerd_00 Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:28 am EST

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    Jim-This is true, you notice how its normally the same people that cause those same kind of accidents,you remember Juans first year in Nascar he took out a bunch of drivers on seperate occasions.
    MarkN-B.S Juans one of those idiots that has no respect for anybody on the track, he's proven it time and time again.
  23. packerd_00
    23. Posted by packerd_00 Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:31 am EST

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    Saying its okay because Carl wasnt challenging for the title,thats whacked out logic even for you.
  24. Jim T.
    24. Posted by Jim T. Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:19 pm EST

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    Rudy- thing is those drivers at that level know exactly what will happen if you give somebody a little bump or take the air off the rear of the car so they lose down force. They also should know when to race and when to be patient. I can understand "Mistakes" a little better in the last few laps when everybody is giving it all they have and pushing it to the limit. Most of the time driver mistakes will cost the driver points so you have to be as close to perfect as you can be. So I don't have a high tolerance for drivers that make the same mistakes and cost other drivers points. You can wipe out a teams whole season with one foolish mistake.
  25. Willy Doer
    25. Posted by Willy Doer Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:47 pm EST

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    These cats are racing for points positions for the end...3 races to go. You better be up on the wheel....and i beleive that is what JPM was trying to do, he just lost it. Have you ever seen a driver that hasn't lost it at some time or another? Not taking up for JPM....but it was an accident. Truth is Carl had less to lose than JPM and Gordon...JPM suffered the worst, all he did was screw himself.

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