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Sam Hornish Jr. back to the IRL?

That was the wild story floating amongst the media at Phoenix last weekend. And the announcement on Monday that Penske Racing had hired David Stremme as a test driver only added fuel to the fire.

Listen up, conspiracy theorists. Here's the real deal:

Hornish is doing just fine in NASCAR. As a rookie, he's been able to keep his car in the top 35, keep his nose clean and gain the respect of his fellow drivers. NASCAR is where both he and boss Roger Penske want him to be.

Back in February, Hornish told me that if he could get back behind the wheel of an Indy car it would only be for the Indy 500 - the race - as far as both himself and team owner Penske are concerned.

Hornish is a three-time (2001-02, 06) Indy Racing League champion and an Indy 500 winner. He has nothing else to prove in those cars, except to win a few more Indy 500s.

He does have a lot left to prove in a stock car. And with every lap, he gains more knowledge about how his car is supposed to drive and how he is supposed to drive it. Admittedly, Hornish's biggest issue at this point is that he has to learn about the car and what it needs to make it more comfortable for him.

When it comes to running wide open and running fast, like in his Indy car days, Hornish is as good as they get. Remember his remarkable run in the first half of this year's Daytona 500? When the bump stops and the braking points are taken out of the equation, he's up there, mixing it up with the top dogs of the sport.

A top-10 finish isn't out of the question at Talladega next weekend.

Hornish has said repeatedly that he would love to do double duty on Memorial Day weekend, but it doesn't look like this year. This year it's all about stock cars.

But, there is one interesting scenario that could play out.



Penske has three cars entered for this year's Indy 500. One for two-time 500 winner Helio Castroneves; one for Hornish's replacement at Penske, Kiwi Ryan Briscoe and a third car - the No. 77, with a driver TBA. Of course, that is the same number that Hornish uses for his Sprint Cup ride.

So, if Hornish were "busy" in Indy, Stremme could qualify the 77 car for the Coca Cola 600 and start the race in Hornish's absence, since the start time for the Indy 500 makes it virtually impossible for one driver to start both races.

Then, if he doesn't win the Indy 500, Hornish flies to Charlotte with team owner Penske and jumps into the seat of his stock car to finish the 600.

Of course, the second part of the scenario is the part (if it does happen), that the Penske folks would rather not see. They would expect to spend the night at Indy, celebrating win number 15.

Sources within the Penske Racing organization say that its a good bet that if Hornish is seen at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway during the month of May, it will be as a spectator, and on the evening of May 25th he'll be at Lowe's Motor Speedway.

And Stremme's new gig as a test driver for Penske comes from Stremme's relationship with former Penske partner Rusty Wallace's Nationwide team.

Would Penske trade Stremme for Hornish on a full time basis?

Stranger things have happened, but that's a trade that's not likely to happen anytime soon, if ever.

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  1. RichardV
    1. Posted by RichardV Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm EDT

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    Sam was a contender in the IRL. He actually had a chance of winning races. In NASCAR he is contending for the top 35. You tell me which would you do? Of course when you can triple your salary in NASCAR why not go for the money rather than the victory. Welcome to America the home of the shrinking dollar.
  2. sportsnut888
    2. Posted by sportsnut888 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    For Hornish, it's about the challenges. Had nothing left to prove in IndyCar, wanted to see how he'd fare against the "big boys." He's doing fine for rookie, when he learns how to tell the crew chief what he needs for the car, watch out.
  3. Joe M
    3. Posted by Joe M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    Sam Hornish Jr. was one of the 5 best Indy drivers of all time. In a league where car control is the key he shined. He is only in his first year as a NASCAR driver and once he gets everything down watch out cause he will be contending for a championship soon and Kurt Bushc will take the back seat at Penske South. As for the Indy 500 (The greatest race in the world) I woould love to see Sam run and win a few more. Wait till Tony retires and heads back into an IndyCar for the 500, cause every driver knows thats the one you want to win. Being on the Borg Warner is what Sam wanted and he got it. He can pull off the double Tony has before. But do not expect to see Sam in an IndyCar for a career move. He dominated the series and now has to show he can run with the "big boys." By the way wasn't it Mario Andretti an Indy driver who was voted greatest driver of the century by the A.P.??? So much for the big boys I guess.
  4. Nimzy
    4. Posted by Nimzy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    Hornish is a good indycar driver but competed against a very weak 18-22 car field much of his career while driving the best equipment. On road courses against a now MUCH stronger grid I don't think he would be the guy to beat much less win championships. He was great to watch and very entertaining but top 5 all time? Not even top 5 in the IRL as it stands now.
  5. BradDawg
    5. Posted by BradDawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Joe M, pull your head out of your arse. There are so many erroneous statements in your comment that it's ridiculous. First, the IRL is the league where car control is key? That's news to me, because last time I checked Indy cars so much downforce they could run upside down. Stock cars, on the other hand, take talent to drive. Also, the Indy 500's TV ratings have been topped by the Daytona 500 every year since 1995, so it's no longer the greatest race in the world. If it is, then why did this year's Daytona 500 have more Indy 500 winners than the Indy 500 itself will? Face it, the IRL is a second-tier series. Drivers only race IRL so they can move on to F1 or NASCAR, to race with the big boys and make the big $$$. And Mario Andretti was a helluva driver, but he's hardly the greatest of the century. Richard Petty had 200 wins in 1184 starts (16.89% win percentage) and 7 championships. Compare that to Andretti's 1 win in 14 NASCAR starts (7.14% win percentage). Hell, you can even add in his F1 and IRL stats and he still doesn't come close to Petty. They don't call Petty "The King" for nothing.
    Hornish sucks at stock car racing. The only reason he's in the top 35 is because Penske gave him Kurt Busch's points from last year. Look at what Hornish has accomplished on NASCAR. Absolutely NOTHING. He needs to go back to open wheel racing, and take Villenueve with him. Tony Stewart and Juan Pablo Montoya are the only open wheelers that deserve to be in NASCAR.
  6. rob
    6. Posted by rob Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    braddawg obviousy you dont know anything about racing. your a nascar lately. i think all the spam you have ingested has gone to your brain.
  7. Nimzy
    7. Posted by Nimzy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    Braddawg, Mario is the greatest racer of all time. Petty is up there but he only did it in stock cars. Mario won the USAC sprint car championship, the Daytona 500 and the 12 hours of Sebring all in the same year! All different cars on different tracks and surfaces. Then he went on to be F1 champ, CART champ and if not for a few horrible breaks might have won 6 indy 500s. Petty was good but not in the same class as Mario. I do however agree that Hornish will not make it in NASCRAP though, those top 15 guys are just way too tough.
  8. BradDawg
    8. Posted by BradDawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Okay guys, seriously. If NASCAR Sprint Cup isn't the premier racing series in the world, why are all these open wheelers coming over? Wouldn't they stay in open wheel if it's better? When's the last time that a NASCAR champion tried to move on to open wheel? They don't, because when you're at the top, who wants to take a step down? And I forgot, when Hornish leaves and takes Villenueve, he needs to take Franchitti and Allmendinger with him too. Oh, and say hi to Christian Fittipaldi!
    Rob99rst, so which of my statements do you disagree with? Name calling is immature, and is usually what people with no argument do.
    Michael N, I'm impressed by Mario Andretti's versatility in different cars on different surfaces, however I think it's irrelevant. We're looking for greatest driver, not most versatile driver. If that were the criteria, Juan Pablo Montoya would be listed as one of the greatest drivers in history. Petty didn't jump to any other discipline of racing because he didn't need to. He was the best at what he did, and didn't try to change (much like Michael Schumacher, who many say is the best driver of all time). Plus, he owned his own NASCAR team, and his father was also a NASCAR champion. I would have been interested to see how he did in other series, but the Pettys are strictly NASCAR.
  9. craig y
    9. Posted by craig y Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:49 pm EDT

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    Well I don't remember Tony Stewart doing too well in his first year of nascar racingas a matter of fact. i remember his first quote as being that he had the same luck iin nascar as he had in indy cars either he wreck or he blew up. So i think you guys are a little quick to be judge Sam when he has only raced in 9 races. this year is an investment year for Roger penske we will see what happens after that,

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