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Okay, this one's a little dated, but I was trying to get some official audio on this and couldn't locate it, so I'm going with the, shall we say, "extralegal" version. This is from Martinsville, as Kurt Busch blows up at Roger Penske. Start listening for Urt about 55 seconds in, and ponder how he wasn't strangled immediately after getting out of his car:

Okay, granted, we're only seeing part of the picture here, but man, Kurt doesn't come off very well, does he? This incident, as you may have heard, set off a round of hand-wringing over whether driver audio ought to be made public. I'm of two minds -- it gives us greater insight into the driving process, but still doesn't allow much for secrecy or strategy. But as long as we've got the opportunity to hear drivers go off like this, I'm all for it. You?

(Hat tip: All Left Turns)

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  1. Gators #1 Nuff Said
    1. Posted by Gators #1 Nuff Said Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 pm EDT

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    hell if they dont want us hearin it dont say it lol find a scrambler for private communications
  2. Gators #1 Nuff Said
    2. Posted by Gators #1 Nuff Said Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 pm EDT

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    Sounds like Kyle learned alot from big brother Kurt. Hats off to Roger for not kickin his ass on the track. "No way we can compete." Nice Kurt way to make the guys wanna work with ya.
  3. ROTTEN-ONE
    3. Posted by ROTTEN-ONE Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    He's a little baby just like his bro . I bet their parents are just as bad or worse . They learned that from someone . WOW , if I was the crew chief I'd sit quiet for about 20 laps see what he does without him ! lol
  4. Gators #1 Nuff Said
    4. Posted by Gators #1 Nuff Said Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 pm EDT

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    If I were the crew chief I'd raise the right front pressure 20 lbs and the left rear drop about 20 psi see how he liked it LOL
  5. NostraChronus
    5. Posted by NostraChronus Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:06 pm EDT

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    I can't imagine what happens when Mama Busch under-cooks their steaks. That being said, they are two of the best drivers in the series, and they are defense exhibit a for why radio communications should be open to the public; hearing team communications is certainly one of the more alluring features of Nascar, and it allows for personalities such as the Busch Bro's, Tony Stewart, and others to emerge in the heat of battle, not, like in football, for public consumption and publicity, but because they're human and being thrown into a hornet's nest. Boogity.
  6. art_tidesco
    6. Posted by art_tidesco Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    I like the radio communications but am sure it does make secrete strategies point less for me it's all part of the entertainment :-)
  7. penske2car
    7. Posted by penske2car Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    just because you CAN be a prick, doesn't mean you SHOULD be a prick. i try to like the Busches, but then i think of my favorite drivers of the past and its hard to imagine Bill, Davey, DJ, Terry and guys like that acting like asses in the car. Tallent is one thing. being a jerk off is another.
  8. CMPG
    8. Posted by CMPG Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    All this is is frustration. Busch has a right to be frustrated. We are all human and frustration is an emotion we all have. Doesn't make it right but when he knows he has the potential to have an awesome car, has a top notch owner, a great team, he deserves to expect the best and when he is not the best, he will let everyone know.
    I bet if we were all in the same position, the words coming out of our mouths would be about as bad if not worse. If the team doesn't like the way he is speaking to them, there is the door; there are plenty of pit crew members out there who are looking for jobs. Best thing to do is do your best and if you get yelled at, get over it and fix the problem for next time.
    George Carlin was right, our country is full of pansies. Buck up, get over it and fix the problems! If you don't like listening to Busch's radio, listen to Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson who are plenty happy because their machines and teams are performing the way the #2 should.
  9. kinggeorge
    9. Posted by kinggeorge Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:51 pm EDT

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    Suchanuglyname--- Your absolutely right. These guys aren't racing pinewood derby cars at the Boys Scouts Jamboree. They are professionals making big money on a worldwide stage. If you can't stand your driver ( who is the one trying to handle that POS on the track ) telling you that we suck as a team and should be better then we are, then you should take up basket weaving with grandma Mable who will pat you on the head and tell you it's all right when your weave goes all kattywampus. I have no problem with what teams say on the radio because they are talking to each other and we are merely eves dropping on private conversations. That is one of the great things about Nascar being able to listen in on the stratagy of racing and hearing the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.
    The one thing about Kurt's rant that did bother me was him calling one of the icons of all motorsports, "D00D". Doesn't he know that's his brother's nickname exclusively? Gah!!
  10. Jet
    10. Posted by Jet Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    So Kurt has come full circle.... Started out as a jerk..... then became Mr. Nice Guy..... then returns to Urt the jerk. Busch Bad Boys!!! LoL
    Seriously, I agree with such#8... Do they want him to be compeitive and win or just ride around the track and say nothing? I don't even care about Urt, but I can understand his frustration.
  11. Jet
    11. Posted by Jet Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    Did anyone check out the other clips, such as Jr's Crib, and his keetchin and his whinney cat? What's in his kitchen cupboards? He has Stouffers dinners in his freezer, good choice. His record collection includes Barry Manalo (sp?) lol ... Some funny stuff there....
  12. brinirmess
    12. Posted by brinirmess Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    If you have trackpass it's very entertaining, well worth the $$$$.
    Jet- definetly agree, i really would not be interested in watching a bunch of pansies and it's like,,,oh i really would appreciate it, if you could like...uh...please...uh....get my car to turn better...
  13. sherryrocks
    13. Posted by sherryrocks Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:00 pm EDT

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    unless the driver is the in car reporter, I don't think radio communications should be made public. It might be entertaining at times, but it also makes the teams less competetive. How can the teams stay ahead of the competition, when EVERYONE knows what adjustments your going to make on your next pit stop?? As far as kurts comments? I've heard worse out of his brothers mouth while standing in victory lane!!!!! I'm sure ALL of the drivers have let their mouth overload their a$$ on more than one occasion!!
  14. Richard T
    14. Posted by Richard T Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:47 pm EDT

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    crap that double posted
  15. buzzdhead
    15. Posted by buzzdhead Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:15 pm EDT

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    I don't really get what the big deal is. It's not like Kurt was on the radio cussing out Roger or the rest of his team. He's frustrated and talking (calmly it appears from what I heard). Are we really such pansies these days that a conversation like this on the radio brings up such shock and awe?
  16. Helen or Rigby
    16. Posted by Helen or Rigby Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:25 pm EDT

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    #16---the ones who are raisin heck are those who don't like this particular driver---if it was their driver, they would be sayin "It's about time Jr. got up in his crews behind!!!"
  17. razz
    17. Posted by razz Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:31 pm EDT

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    This is not anything unusual if you listen to the radio transmissions during the races all the drivers at sometime or another get into a hissy fit about the handling of their car. Some are more calm and sarcastic than others but I find it all entertaining and informative. All the teams monitor the others radio transmissions and do relay info to other drivers thru their spotters. I would hate to see them do away with this as it does give more insight into what is happening on the track with the drivers and their teams.
  18. Seen it All
    18. Posted by Seen it All Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:50 pm EDT

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    Let them take the radios out of the cars like they were in the old days and that will stop the owners, spotters, and crew chiefs from trying to drive the cars from the sidelines. It will be a different race. IT WILL HAVE ALOT OF DIFFERENT WINNERS.
  19. The Hitman
    19. Posted by The Hitman Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    gators, ideas like that is what would get a driver to catch the crew chief behind the hauler at night and wrap the track bar around his head and shove a catch can up his a$$ sideways, Kurt was well mannered and tame compared to what it actually feels like in those situations. I've driven plenty of races with a bad car and when the crew chief won't do anything useful and then tells you the car is better and puts the owner on who doesn't know a thing about how it feels I would have pulled the car in the pits and told him to crawl his wrinkly old a$$ in the car and go win if it is so good.
  20. Jet
    20. Posted by Jet Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    Hitman - Like your comment, hahaha
  21. BADDAWG
    21. Posted by BADDAWG Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:15 pm EDT

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    This all shows how much pressure is on the track.....u wanna beat a dead horse all this talk about busch. ok so he is not the most popular driver and not the best but hes out there week to week doing his job and if he blows some steam off so be it.....penski would have not hired him if he did not think he could win for the company... as for the younger busch hendricks made big mistake getting rid of him for JR went for a mane instead of talent..
    yes hit man great post...
  22. Willy Doer
    22. Posted by Willy Doer Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Penske was driving race cars before Kurt was even thought of.... I think he knows how it feels. Kurt got a taste of how it feels to run good again, and doesn't want to go back. Completely understandable...but maybe he forgot what it was like to be " Jimmy Spencered"? Have some respect brat!
  23. Willy Doer
    23. Posted by Willy Doer Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    How well does anyone think Kyle Busch would have done on an even swap for Jr? Kyle Busch in the 8 car. i don't think the results would be the same. When you compare the Jr./Kyle swap you are comparing apples and oranges...
  24. That one person
    24. Posted by That one person Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:32 pm EDT

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    Dale Jr. threatened to beat his crew with a hammer.
    Kurt may have been pissed, but at least he wasn't talking about assault and battery.
  25. mifan
    25. Posted by mifan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:15 pm EDT

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    The bush boys are jack holes. Hope they make a lot of money in nascar, then they might be able to buy a personality

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