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Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:41 am EST

UFC 92 picks, Vegas style

Here's another go at it as we try to make some money on UFC 92. We were just 5-5 on The Ultimate Fighter 8 card but went 2-1 with our highlighted picks. It's been a nice 16-2 streak on the highlighted picks dating back to UFC 88 (UFC 88, UFN 15, UFC 89, UFC 90, UFC 91, TUF 8). By the odds, after the top three fights at UFC 92, there are a lot of lopsided matches on Saturday. Bettors beware! We'll see if we can find some dogs and safer favorites to lay some money down. Check out Dave Farra from RawVegas.tv and I breaking down the three marquee battles.

UFC 92 betting odds (Venetian Resort Hotel Casino). Official plays are in BOLD:


RASHAD EVANS v. FORREST GRIFFIN (-140) - UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE

This could be a real chess match. Evans outwitted Chuck Liddell to pull off the biggest victory of his career. Griffin did the same in picking up the two biggest wins of his career against Shogun Rua and Quinton Jackson. Evans fights out of Jackson's Submission Fighting, the home of Keith Jardine, who scored a huge knockout win over Griffin at UFC 66. Jardine is different though because he was big enough to stand in front of Forrest and throw leather. Evans has to use more movement. So what does Griffin do? Randy Couture may have given us a little nugget the other day when he talked about Griffin's underrated jiu-jitsu game. I see Griffin going away from the stand-up and trying to use his size advantage on the ground in the same way he did against Rua, another small 205-pounder. We may see a five round battle or stoppage in the fourth or fifth if Evans is taking too much damage on the ground. PICK: GRIFFIN -140

FRANK MIR v. ANTONIO RODRIGO "MINOTAURO" NOGUEIRA (-400) - UFC INTERIM HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE

You have to beat Nogueira standing. There's only one guy in the world who is willing to risk top control against the Brazilian submission master and that's Fedor Emelianenko. Fighting under the Pride banner, Fedor got two hard-fought decision victories against Nogueira (VIDEO OF PREVIOUS FIGHTS) and did much of his work via ground and pound. So have you to ask yourself, can Frank Mir do major damage and potentially finish Big Nog on the feet? I just don't see it. Can Mir outwork and gas Nogueira? I just don't see it. That said, the odds are too high to play Nogueira at -400. If the line drops to -280 or -300, Nogueira may be worth the risk. Watch for Frank Mir's conditioning as well. If he looks trim, in the 240-252 pound range then it means Mir has trained hard. He was 257 for his loss against Marcio Cruz and 262 in his lackluster win over Dan Christison. Mir was a more ripped up 255 against Brock Lesnar. PICK: NOGUEIRA -400

The rest of the fight picks are after the jump.

Sports betting on MMA is simple to understand. When you see a minus number that is the amount you need to bet to win $100. The favorite is always a minus number. So the bigger the minus number, the bigger favorite. Anything over -300 is a huge favorite. Anderson Silva was an unreal favorite at -800 for his UFC 90 fight. The plus number is what you get if you a bet a dog for $100.

QUINTON JACKSON v. WANDERLEI SILVA (-140) - LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT

This is the show of the night. Where is Jackson's mind? Are the demons gone? He got crushed in two previous fights against Silva, his training has often been inconsistent and he had a ridiculous driving episode just five months ago where he essentially went off the deep end. Now he's ready to take on a guy who could be the light heavyweight champ by the middle of 2009? If he is right mentally, will Jackson go back to his roots - takedown/ground & pound? Too many ifs and this price is too ridiculous to pass up. PICK: SILVA -140

MIKE MASSENZIO v. C.B. DOLLAWAY (-180) - MIDDLEWEIGHT

This is an especially tough fight to pick for a UFC main card fight. We haven't seen enough of either to get an accurate gauge. Massenzio did make a nice debut at UFN 15 with a submission win over Drew McFedries. He does have a solid wrestling background at Rider. In fact, he and Dollaway met while C.B. was at Arizona State. So there shouldn't be any intimidation or grappling advantage for Dollaway. He may have an advantage standing. His kicks are hard and he does have a good submission game. Slight edge to Dollaway. PICK: DOLLAWAY -180

MOSTAPHA AL TURK v. CHEICK KONGO (-330) - HEAVYWEIGHT

Kongo really is the sleeper of the division with limitless potential. His knees and kicks are excellent. The huge hole in his game was wrestling but it appeared that he worked on it exclusively before his win over Dan Evensen. Al Turk is a striker from Cage Rage who really has no business being in there with a guy at Kongo's level. We warn you guys about lines in excess of -300 but we'll risk it. PICK: KONGO -330 

DEAN LISTER v. YUSHIN OKAMI (-300) - MIDDLEWEIGHT

This looks like another big mismatch. Lister is excellent with his submissions but his stand-up is mediocre at best and his gas tank is usually on empty by the middle of the second round. Okami is huge for the weight, has a good motor and is solid on the feet. Once he has top control, you're in trouble. We'll fire on another big favorite. This could be a disasterous night if Lister pulls a submission out of his keester. PICK: OKAMI -300

MIKE WESSEL v. ANTONI HARDONK (-400) - HEAVYWEIGHT

Wessel (6-0), a former strength coach at the University of Arkansas, is a slugger who is making his UFC debut. He only goes 6-foot but possesses power at 250 lbs. Hardonk will want this to stay on the feet. That gives Wessel, who says he's definitely not a jiu-jitsu guy, a shot. This could be a quick one possibly producing Knockout of the Night. PICK: WESSEL +300

REESE ANDY v. MATT HAMILL (-220) - LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT

There's some dog value in this one too. Andy didn't get the win against Brandon Vera in his UFC debut but he more than held his own and wasn't thrown around by Vera, who is a very good wrestler. Hamill's wrestling is supposed to be at another level. Frankly, he should be a 205 version of Matt Hughes in his prime. But if he can't get Andy to the ground or chooses to slug as he so often does, do you feel safe taking Hamill? I don't. Clearly, he should've tried to take down Rich Franklin in every round of their fight. He didn't. Maybe he's finally learned the lesson. I have to see it before I believe it. Hamill will probably win a wrestling match but this price is too high. PICK: ANDY +180

BRAD BLACKBURN v. RYO CHONAN (-160) - WELTERWEIGHT

Blackburn's record is a bit deceiving at 15-9-1 because his resume pretty solid with wins over Jay Hieron, Chris Wilson and Rory Markham plus quality losses to Roger Huerta and Brandon Melendez. Is Chonan better than all five of those fighters mentioned? Maybe. Chonan has been in there with some amazing fighters (Karo Parisyan, Hayato Sakarai, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson, Carlos Newton, Ricardo Almeida, Paulo Filho) and more than held his own. He needs to impress UFC brass in this one to stay around. PICK: CHONAN -160

DAN EVENSEN v. PAT BARRY (-160) - HEAVYWEIGHT

This is pro MMA fight No. 14 for Evenson. Barry started MMA this year in May so why is he such a big favorite? The guy is a highly-regarded kickboxer (seven K-1 fights) who has worked on his MMA recently with Stephan Bonnar, Ben Rothwell and Eric Schafer. Hopefully Schafer has been able to shore up the holes in Barry's ground game. This is a good matchup for the 29-year-old Barry. Evensen, 6-3, 250, is more of a slugger. He should expect lots of uppercuts and kicks from the 5-11, 230 Barry. PICK: BARRY -160

NOTE: Cage Writer will be live cageside on Saturday night with updates after each fight. Fight fans can also listen to the Yahoo! Sports/ESPNRadio1100 UFC 92 live post-fight show at the MGM Grand. Click here to listen on Saturday from 10:30-Midnight.

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  1. jtakeo11
    1. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    All you jack asses who pick Al Turk are just copying me cuz I have been saying it for over a month now. I would say 99% of you don't even know who he is.
  2. Smokin Joe Fraze
    2. Posted by Smokin Joe Fraze Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    Good vid and I agree with all 3 picks including the breakdown of the fights, been saying the same things.
    Undercard fight of the night people need to look out for is Patrick Barry. If you don't follow K-1 you're probably not familiar with him but he's a HW, is built like a tank and hits/kicks like one. If it remains standing Evensen is going to wakeup sometime next week.
  3. HAHA
    3. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    haha i read up on him when he was first signed
    that being said i wont bet on him
    never seen him fight
    i know he is the hw in cage rage tho
  4. jtakeo11
    4. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    who are his picks? I can't see the video at work.
  5. MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts
    5. Posted by MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    Jtakeo11,
    Does this mean that you be the first person to post and say how big a fool you are when Al Turk gets beaten? Why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If he is such a certainty, then you could buy a house with your winnings with him being a huge +250 underdog ( if that price does exist ).
  6. MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts
    6. Posted by MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    Cofield,
    Let me guess, the Venetian was the sportsbook that you used to work for when you said that you were in the gambling business for 4 years? Is shamelessly plugging and shilling them at every possible opportunity the penance you have to pay for leaving them and allowing them to prosper?
    " Big favorites look easy but you never know ".
    Is that the pearl of wisdom you took from your 4 years in the gambling business, or is this what you are telling people who might be stupid enough to follow your selections?
  7. Steven W
    7. Posted by Steven W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    i read an article on cagepotato awhile back where dean lister was quoted saying that him and okami are at the top of the MW division and that's why this fight is so important.......does that sound insane to anyone else that lister holds himself with such high regard? i mean, i understand there's not much going on at that weight but lister hasn't even fought and won against anyone who is on the same level as the guys silva has been mopping the floor with......yeah yeah he's a submission wizard but you know how they say if you punch a black belt in the face he becomes a brown belt? well i think lister becomes a blue belt when you punch him in the face.....if you kick him too his belt just falls completely off and he'll hold you the rest of the fight so he doesn't get finished. okami will either knock him out early or get the win 30-27.
  8. jtakeo11
    8. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    I already put $500 on him. I have a ton of money out on this card already. I've been cleaning up for years and I plan on continuing with my success on betting on these guys. AL TURK, CB, RAMPAGE, NOGUEIRA, EVANS write it down Minnie......i mean, Mickey
  9. Rich Hansen
    9. Posted by Rich Hansen Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    Never seen a site that I wished had closed posts more than this.
  10. MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts
    10. Posted by MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    I had no interest in the Al Turk fight until you decreed that the whole world was " copying " you. Now that you have continued to act like a jackass, i will be cheering on Kongo like you wouldn't believe.
    As for you having $500 on him. I will take that with a grain of salt. Anyone who has to tell people how much he allegedly bets, or how great he is, is usually nowhere near as good as he would like people to believe.
  11. Steven W
    11. Posted by Steven W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    ditto....i hope kongo destroys him. but after mustafa loses jtakeo will probably just say he lost on purpose so he can go fight in japan where the real talent is......sucka
    and double ditto....nobody cares how much money you're going to lose ok?
  12. swrestler
    12. Posted by swrestler Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm EDT

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    Shaun, informative,
    Nutcracker, blunt and honest
    Farthammer, good points
    Omega, emotional
    Ross, good points
    Jtakeo11, sees the light
    Vudusup, is funny
    LB#31, doesn’t get it
    Steven W, sees it
    D rok, poignant
    Most of these athletes are on roids. To give them the benefit of the doubt is naive. Carwin might be good, but has to prove himself (remember Sokoudjou). Half of the elite heavies are outside the UFC…
  13. KJ-MMA Armchair
    13. Posted by KJ-MMA Armchair Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    I wouldn't cheer for Kongo because of a jackass poster boasting about Al Turk. I'm picking Al Turk too, but nothing is a sure thing when it comes to MMA.
    I mentioned in another blog post that I believed Al Turk is capable of beating Kongo with his groundgame and G'n'P. Of course all fights start standing, which is where Kongo has the advantage.
    Al Turk is my underdog pick for this weekend though.
  14. Ican2
    14. Posted by Ican2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Referee- boring and redundant
  15. Steven W
    15. Posted by Steven W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    haha, ican......you're just mad cuz he left you out
  16. jtakeo11
    16. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    it's $500...oh ya, i guess that's a lot of money to you 22 year old punks that sit at home in their parent's house wishing they had $4000 to throw down on UFC fights over the weekend. haha, you chumps.
  17. Matthew T
    17. Posted by Matthew T Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:25 pm EDT

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    jtakeo11,
    Grow up, if you're "throwing down" $4K, then who's the real idiot!
  18. jtakeo11
    18. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    well.....after 5 months of betting, when I bought my car with my winnings, I didn't feel like an idiot. So you tell me who's the idiot.
  19. Nutcracker
    19. Posted by Nutcracker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    ^what did you get with all those duggets?? a 2001 prius? now that's rollin' large kid.. every gambler that boasts of their winnings never tells you the full story.. like about the five previous cards they lost the house on. so i take it you are sleeping in your "new" car??
  20. jtakeo11
    20. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    I'm actually living in my house in Laguna Beach, CA. Where are you living??
  21. Steven W
    21. Posted by Steven W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    dude what makes you an idiot is the way you feel the need to tell everyone all about it and then goff at 500 bucks as if it's nothing.....it doesn't really matter how much money you bet, how much money you win or lose or how much money is a lot or a little to you, what matters is that you don't know crap about mma and are trying to use your financial crutch to somehow convince us you're competent.
    that makes you an idiot...and not to mention pretty damn shallow you frickin yuppy schmuck
  22. Steven W
    22. Posted by Steven W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    you're so cool and awesome i wish i could live somewhere where they film tv shows, you must hang out with all the girls from laguna beach right? what are they like jtakeo?
  23. jtakeo11
    23. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    hahaha, there are only a few people in here that know anything about MMA that I actually listen to...you are not on the list. With the exception of DanaF, The Great White (even though I disagree with what he says a lot, still has a lot of MMA knowledge) and some other usual people like Drok, you guys are morons and I just shake my head reading the filth that you write. I don't have to defend myself, my winning bets or my multi million dollar home to you.....just cuz you live in a trailer park with your cousins, please don't take it out on the rest of us folk.
  24. jtakeo11
    24. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    And who are your picks for this card? We'll keep a running tally going and see who does better over time. The Great White is already in. So who are your picks?
  25. jtakeo11
    25. Posted by jtakeo11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    And I'm not including the last card where I won all but 1 (Stevenson) and everyone knows that I picked those picks.

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