Maybe Dana realised Shogun needed the bonus to pay for a special something to bring him back to form.
We all know Shogun was much better in Proid Fighting Championship.

Horn and Palhares should have received the only fight of the night bonus, maybe davis and lytle with a secondary

Hendo is the man. Even Kimbo fears this dude i think!

On first viewing I would have give Franklin the fight, 29-28 with Round 1 the closest but I can accept going to Henderson. I'm gonna have to watch the fight a few times because I couldn't see Hendo winning more the one round.

Decent fights. Hendo did what I thgought he would...don't understand how one judge gave all three rounds to Franklin. Coleman and Rua looked like crap. I thought the old man was going to pull it out. Liddell will crush Rua unless he comes in looking better than yesterday. VUDUSUP, come on man there's no way Kimbo is afraid if Hendo. Kimbo's superior boxing, ground and pound and balck BELT in bjj would dominate Hendo in every aspect.

Hendo is awesome. I like Ace too, but these people who thought Franklin won (i.e. the judge) clearly were not watching the fight. I mean....jesus. Give your man a little bias, but this fight was not at all "controversial".

They should deduct salaries like in pride.

Last night I said "Rua will be resealsed this week"....then they gave him a bonus?!?! Dana must have a man-crush.

Missed them all had to work will see the replay then give an opinion. By the way everyone is talking though it lived up to everyones lackluster expectations.
Sounds like Coleman and Rua gassed so quickly because neither has fought for a long time and as much as you train the actual fighting takes alot more out of a man cuz he's getting a beating at the same time as he is giving one doubling the energy used to perform.

cant wait for kimbos next fight. hes gonna come back stronger after that loss to seth and put on a fight of the night.
kimbo vs coleman.
kimbo vs shamrock
now theres some hype
bas knows best

Henderson did not win that fight and with that im off of UFC for good.Yes henderson took Franklin down a few times and tried a few submission attempts but mostly he was gassed and just stopped Franklin from getting to his feet.There needs to be a 10 second rule because now all the fighters mostly know how to counter sub attempts so they use the ground to rest.Franklin was hitting the body well and snapping his jab well while Henderson was mostly looking for a powershot that never landed.I dont know much about either fighters so I have no bias but i had it 2 rounds to 1 Franklin.If taking a guy down and lying on him is considered a victory in the ufc then ill spend my 45 bucks on something worth it.Seems like if it goes 2 the judges its already predetermined whos going to win.

cain go post your complaints about the main event on that blog....this one happens to be about horn/palhares

and rua/coleman....but definitely not hendo/franklin

fightchica ......... The conditioning aspect that you speak of only plays minimal when we talk about vet fighters and what you're talking about deals more with nervousness/panic. Yeah, there was definite 'gon rust between the two but vet fighters should have there emotions in check and should know that sparring 5 /15min bouts and taking less then 30 sec rest periods between sets lifting will help out the muscular fatigue. I am leaning more that both had a pretty poor training camp with other issues.

Not just emotional fatigue BearDown the actual physical recuperation it takes it's toll on seasoned as well as novice fighters. I see that as an actual factor cuz even when they are sparring the blows are pulled somewhat, whereas while in the actual fight that "pulled" punch is not happening. I see the muscular fatigue you speak of as the "use" of the muscles not necessarily the abuse of them. Which is what I see a doubling the fatigue factor for any fighter.

fightchica ...... When you go for rounds on the clock in a training camp you go at least 90% because you're there to help; "pulling" as you say only hinders. The only thing that changes are where your strikes go and sub work(no face, subs quickly break to keep movement). I don't think you're really understanding what I was saying. Understandably so, I see your issue about the actual 100% punching but it all comes down to how you prepare. Not "punching" someone 100% (or getting abused as you say) doesn't mean that your level of conditioning would suffer like we saw with Coleman and Rua. Let's look at GSP for example. How many guys do you think he "punches" 100% (or gets abused by) while preparing for a fight yet he still is one of the best conditioned athletes in MMA. End point is that they both had injuries before this fight and their training suffered as a result thus having a poor training camp.
Ican2 ... "That's why you gotta make your training harder or as hard as you can get it to the real thing."
Maybe, I'm not being as clear as I should be but that's what I mean by the 5/15's (& short rest periods) and most people that have helped someone prepare for a fight (tourney,meet or whatever) knows that you gotta go hard and that's what I pointed out. You restated my point.

Yes you give as well as you get in training you want realistic preparation I understand that and sparing with gear on does give you and your opponent certain protection from the blows recieved IE: in boxing sparing. Hits there I would give @ 80-85% capacity when they land for it is technique that is the main focus with punishment a close second. And the sparing partner is throwing strikes back with the intention of hitting but I still say nothing like what will be coming at you in the ring.
While practicing Muay Thai on a sparring opppnent the other dude is wrapped up in padding so that he is not pummelled by the repeated blows from the on doing the practicing and rarely does he hit back; yes he blocks effectively with the help of the padding but he does not clinch with you and give you a full strike of a knee to the nose if your understand me. Your partner does not give you a full force body kick to the ribs/organs or repeated inside/outside legs kick while this goes on. again even for the purpose of "checking" practice the partner is not hitting the trainee with full force blows training would be ineffective if you were injured beyond the ability to fight.
Grapppling you seem to concede this point to me begrudingly saying it breaks up the flow to hold the submission for long.
You blame their camp, I understand of their injuries too, term out of the ring, all these are factors of why they grew tired so fast, cardio conditioning being the crux of our arguement, and how and why it failed both men so badly.
The cardio wasn't there we agree on that it is the why we are trying to figure out, I agree in that it was conditoning but the reasons for the lack of conditioning and why it became such a factor I still stand by my opinion that the punishment inflicted in the octogon increased this gassing twofold on top of the other reasons of not training to their full potential for this fight. Are we in some agreement here? I didn't not understand you BearDown I was simply stating another factor as to why they gassed so quickly.

fightchica...... We are in agreement mostly and your point does carry validity. I think we just mainly disagree as to why they gassed so hard and I'd bet that BOTH factors are the REAL reasons. Our idea of sparring and fight preparation differ but that's about it. Both fighters have a history of "gassin' out" even when they were healthy. Punishment does take wind out of you but in reference to that fight; there wasn't too much punishment being handed out by either fighter and that may just be the disagreement. Many of the fights were like watching a parking lot brawl @ a supermarket between soccer moms.
Ican2....... No apology needed homes!!

I knew this PPV was not going to be great, and I was ready for that. I could have even tolerated that the waitresses at the bar knew the results of every fight, because I forgot the fight was in IRL. But the entire night of fights was atrocious. Lytle and Davis put on an acceptable show. The Jeremy Horn fight was the only other engaging moment in the whole night.
The Hua/Coleman fight made me wonder how much it would cost to breed test tube apes for the purpose of wielding clubs to bash each other's skull in (like Ape Fights in Futurama), because that would have been more humane than watching nearly 15minutes of that fight. The answer.... more than $250,000 each. All jokes aside, the UFC could have just played that fight at 2x or 3x speed during its 10pm eastern showing and save their paying audience a horrible experience.
Then comes the Henderson/Hughes fight... I will admit that I was already very pissed by this time, but the top billed fight of the night did nothing to impress. I said to the people I came to the bar with that if the fight goes the full 15, I'm walking out without waiting for the decision.
I swear that the only thing I hope/pray for now is that St.Pierre and Penn live up to half of the hype, because if they don't...barring a Fedor fight in the UFC or Anderson Silva getting a Light-Heavyweight title shot I am D-O-N-E with watching MMA for a damn long time.

Really BearDown they have hair pullin' and scatchin' allowed in MMA? LMFAO!!!!!