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The signing of Fedor Emelianenko changed everything between Strikeforce and the UFC. Dana White had been cordial in the past with Scott Coker and his fight promotion but this Fedor thing is personal for him, as so many issues are. White started lobbing bombs at Strikeforce last week (VIDEO) before UFC 101 calling it "Strikefarce" and said Showtime has no viewers and no money. Showtime's VP of Sports Programming Ken Hershman sat down with Cagewriter to discuss the business and the negativity coming from White (3:37 mark):

"If we were that irrelevant he wouldn't be making those comments. It's unfortunate but that's his personality and that's his style. To us it's a ringing endorsemnent of what we've done and what we've accomplished. Remember they have a 100 event head start on Strikeforce. What Scott's done in a very short time shows the power of Showtime as a vehicle."

Hershman also thinks UFC's counterprogramming efforts tomorrow night are a good sign(5:30 mark):

"We're used to it. It shows that we're making headway,"  Hershman said of going head-to-head with a UFC 100 replay on SPIKE. "Counterprogram all you want, there are plenty of opportunities to watch this show live and on delays after the fact, and it's all part of the [Showtime] subscription price."

Hershman spoke at length about the Fedor deal saying it was very responsible and that in spite of White saying "it'll put Strikeforce out of business," Showtime and the fight promotion are going to make a lot of money. So how did he and Coker get a deal done so easily when UFC claims M-1 Global, Fedor's management company, is impossible to deal with?

"The difference again is our approach Our approach to the sport and [M-1's] is compatible, and I guess UFC's wasn't. Sometimes it's not about the dollars you put on the table at the moment. Sometimes people have more of a longterm vision of where they want to take their business and that worked to our favor."

Hershman also debunked the thought that "co-promotion" was an outrageous request from M-1 and Fedor. Showtime and Strikeforce are targeting October 10 as the date for Fedor's first fight.

Join Cagewriter in San Jose for some Strikeforce preview on ESPNRadio1100 today between 3-6 p.m. ET. We're back tomorrow with live fight-by-fight blogging at the HP Pavilion. Maggie Hendricks will have a live chat here once the main card starts at 10:30 p.m. ET. And on Sunday morning at 1:30 a.m. ET, ESPNRadio1100 presents the only live postfight show from the Strikeforce press conference. LISTEN HERE.

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  1. R P
    1. Posted by R P Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:05 pm EDT

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    I agree with everything Hershman said except co-promotion being reasonable. Co-promoting with M-1 really lowered strikeforce and has never worked for any other company in the past.
  2. Jon R
    2. Posted by Jon R Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:10 pm EDT

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    Keep talking. Look what has happened to all others who took on White, The Fertitta Briothers, and the UFC. One by one they fall by the wayside. Strikeforce will be the next.
    And co-promoting with M1 would've been a financial diaster for the UFC.
    Economics 101 people. Learn before you speak.
  3. Monkey Cheese
    3. Posted by Monkey Cheese Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:16 pm EDT

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    This deal did nothing but hurt Fedor's reputation and suck dry Showtime's sports budget.
  4. Coach Isiah Thompson
    4. Posted by Coach Isiah Thompson Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:22 pm EDT

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    While on vacation in Italy last month, a UFC fan approached Showtime's Ken Hershman and asked what the largest and heaviest land mammal was. When Hershman immediately replied, "that's irrelevant", the Italian gent congratulated him and said "that's irright". And now you know the rest of the story........good day! Discuss!
  5. Monkey Cheese
    5. Posted by Monkey Cheese Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:34 pm EDT

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    Coach, can you please give me back the 5 seconds of my life I just wasted reading your post?
    Good day!
  6. Sandman
    6. Posted by Sandman Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:43 pm EDT

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    Fedor is a liability, not an asset. M-1's asking for 1/2 is CRAZY. Fedor is way overrated, fights cans, cares nothing about the sport or his toady, obsequious fans. Mob-1 and Fedor are a joke! Stop sucking Fedor's nut hairs and get a new hero--one who fights the best and does not team up with insane mobsters.
  7. Timothy V
    7. Posted by Timothy V Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:50 pm EDT

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    I would agree with Monkey Cheese. Signing Fedor did not do as much as it would have done if the UFC got him. There is nobody in Strike Force who is good enough to challenge Fedor. It may have given SF some new promotion but that only to those who do not understand MMA. Most real MMA fans look at this and see it a one sided fight each time.
    Maybe Strike Force thinks getting Fedor will help get some better fighters at least for the Heavy Weight Division but not nearly the talent that the UFC will be picking up. SF is small enough where maybe giving half of their company to M-1 was okay. However, if SF was as big as the UFC they would say no as well. I think SF is thinking long term but other companies that have tried to do the co promotion have died. Its a big risk. Gina and Fedor will once again be the saviors of that organization.
  8. Monkey Cheese
    8. Posted by Monkey Cheese Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:01 pm EDT

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    I'm not sure if any contracts are ending soon for any good ufc heavyweights. I'm sure a few would happily leave the ufc to go test themselves against Fedor. BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TEST THEMSELVES! That alone shows true heart and dedication, something Fedor's camp hasn't shown much of.
  9. R P
    9. Posted by R P Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:14 pm EDT

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    The only way Co-Promotion works is if SF invests few resources in any Fedor event, tries to break even, and just use Fedor to get the SF name out. Why sink resources into an event if you have to give half the revenue away? Every Fedor event is going to have 1 main fight and 8 inexpensive undercards. They got Fedor for relatively cheap, so as long as they make the rest of the event for cheap as well then splitting revenue for that event won't be a big deal.
  10. MikeD
    10. Posted by MikeD Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    fedor in negotiations to fight another tomato can, and its not even one of the , uhm, decent strikeforce fighters. ha fedor is the most overhyped fighter ever.
  11. TommyJJ
    11. Posted by TommyJJ Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Cofield, you are getting better at interviews. Nice job.
  12. poker_punker
    12. Posted by poker_punker Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    Tim, they're not giving half the company to M-1. They are putting together the shows as a co-promotion, they go 50-50 on the shows. But they don't share the assets or anything like that.
    Of course this had to be done with a smaller company, there's no benefit for the UFC if they do it. Oh, and by the way, what HW talent are you talking about? Pretty much all the top 20-30 HW have a contract with either SF, Dream of the UFC.
  13. Diego G
    13. Posted by Diego G Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:02 pm EDT

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    Carano vs Santos could be the Forrest vs Bonnar of Strikeforce, thereI said it.
    And Tim V:One of the reasonas I think Strikeforce will uceed its the diference of handling things. You look at Elite XC and you knew they were doomed for the start relying on Youtube sensation to carry out a MMA organization, Affliction were expending like they were already number one. With Strikeforce hey dont rely on a specific fighter, and they make good signings without overexpending (Mouisai, now Lindland Yes they signed the Law,YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST) that much (And this is the part wer EVERYBODY will say they overpay for FEDOR)
  14. Diego G
    14. Posted by Diego G Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:05 pm EDT

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    CORRECTING MY SPELLING FROM THE LAST POST
    Carano vs Santos could be the Forrest vs Bonnar of Strikeforce, there I said it.
    And Tim V:One of the reasons I think Strikeforce will Suceed its the diference of handling things. You look at Elite XC and you knew they were doomed for the start relying on a Youtube sensation to carry out a MMA organization, Affliction were expending like they were already number one. With Strikeforce they dont rely on a specific fighter, and they make good signings without overexpending like Mouisai, and now Lindland (Yes they signed the Law,YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST) that much (And this is the part where EVERYBODY will attack me saying they overpay for FEDOR)
  15. Damon
    15. Posted by Damon Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    First of all, the counter programming shows what c#nts Dana and the UFC really are. Dana White has
    such a little man syndrome its pathetic. If he believes SF is bound to fail, then let them fail on their own,
    but to do everything in his power to hurt them because they landed the biggest fish he coveted is wrong.
    It looks unprofessional, which he is used to, but what nobody else sees is that it hurts a lot of good fighters
    by trying to sink their payday. Co promoting is a GOOD thing for MMA. It can only help the sport grow, financially
    help fighters, keep the sport balanced, and give the fans what we really want to see. If you ever whatched M-1 fights then you know there are a lot of GOOD international fighters. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Dana cant spin the lies about having the best fighters if he co promotes and his fighters start getting their asses kicked.
    A good three quarters of the UFC roster are boring ,take it to decision by lay and pray fighters.
  16. Nutcracker
    16. Posted by Nutcracker Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:19 pm EDT

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    Dana cant get out of the way of his own idiocy. how many people have billionaire brothers to take a business 44 million into the hole before starting to turn things around. given that the price of the ufc at the time was $ 1 mil. he caught a wave that is for sure, but his business acumen is on a short bus. the fertittas are just lucky beneficiaries of a family run casino which they did not make, just inherited.
  17. Nutcracker
    17. Posted by Nutcracker Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:23 pm EDT

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    Hershman makes dana white look like a baby with a bib that cant get enough nipple. good for hershman. a guy that is well spoken and not some idiotic megalomaniac like dbag white. maybe hershman will even pay his fighters and equitable rate. i know showbox fighters on their non ppv showbox series make 5 times as much or more than the wec main event fighters got. and more than most all ufc undercard fighters. and who puts the p4p champ on the undercard anyways with silva vs. runnin' griffin"? retarded card and match making.
  18. Nutcracker
    18. Posted by Nutcracker Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:24 pm EDT

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    So i guess you are not irrelevant after all stevie. as your readers often rip you..
  19. Mitchell
    19. Posted by Mitchell Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:25 pm EDT

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    UFC has the best collection of fighters.
    It is a good thing to have competition between MMA organizations.
    More organizations means more 'counter programming' and more original shows. I love it
    Go Strikeforce, Dream, Adrenaline, and etc.
  20. The Unsilent Majority
    20. Posted by The Unsilent Majority Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:30 pm EDT

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    Subscription price? Oh and here I thought Strikeforce cards were free.
  21. Misremembered
    21. Posted by Misremembered Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:16 pm EDT

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    TUM, give your cable provider a call and try to work a deal. I called and talked to a PYT (could have been a fat chick with a $3.99 a min voice) I got Showtime for $5 a month for a year. Not too bad since I got it way back when Diaz v Shamrock. Now I go to the fights and when I get home rewatch them. Not a bad set-up.
  22. R P
    22. Posted by R P Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:03 pm EDT

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    You've never heard of Showtime? $5 - 10 a month for Showtime is basically free compared to $60 for a 3 hour ppv event, so maybe that's why you thought it was free. But hell, even Spike isn't free, it's part of cable which you have to pay for.
  23. R P
    23. Posted by R P Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:04 pm EDT

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    You've never heard of Showtime, TUM? $5 - 10 a month for Showtime is basically free compared to $60 for a 3 hour ppv event, so maybe that's why you thought it was free. But hell, even Spike isn't free, it's part of cable which you have to pay for.
  24. mike
    24. Posted by mike Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:14 am EDT

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    Anderson silva had 5 fights in Pride, he did not start there (already had a 6-1 record before Pride), he started in Mecca World Vale. After Pride he did not go straight to the ufc. He had 4 more fights 3 for Cage Rage and 1 for Rumble on the Rock. He has 10 fights in the ufc now. Its funny how people make comments about the ufc and fighters without knowing themself, so get enlightened and really look it up.
  25. CLAYTON R
    25. Posted by CLAYTON R Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:45 pm EDT

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    I love all these comments about Dana White being stupid. He might be an [profane] but he is not stupid. When Dana took over the UFC was banned in all but 2 states and millions in debt. Now it's a house hold name with a prime time TV show,a video game,and magazine. Oh yeah, the events always sell out and PPV's are through the roof. As far as Fedor goes, he's a has been fighting has been's. Name the last real fight he has had. He looks at guys like Nogueira,Mir and Lesnar and knows he get his butt kicked. So he'll stay with the backbenchers and collect big money to guy's that the UFC fired, let alone contenders.

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