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Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:30 pm EDT

Rua-Machida close decision has fans looking for blood

By Steve Cofield

UFC president Dana White, Bill Douglas from California State Athletic Commission, UFC color analyst Joe Rogan, judge Cecil Peoples (action figure pictured) and Lyoto Machida along with his manager Ed Soares had better beef up security this week. After all, they all had a hand in the biggest travesty in the history of mankind.

A bit much? Of course.

To listen to fans this morning, you would think the N.Y. Times, Bill O'Reilly and every U.S. newspaper columnist is right when they say the sport appeals to idiots and animals, and brings out the worst in people.

Lyoto Machida was deemed a 48-47 winner over Mauricio Rua last night at UFC 104. Machida retained his title and there will be an immediate rematch, but some reason the world is about to end, just read any MMA message board. 

Check out the 11 worst threads started over at Sherdog: 

The official "overturn the decision" petition thread

Dumbest idea ever. Virginia completely blew it by overturning the UWC fight between Chase Beebe and Mike Easton. The commission has no business examining any decision. unless there's a paper trail to legitimately suggest there was a crime committed. California won't be that stupid. Won't ever happen. Stop thinking it will. 

I'm tired of Cecil Peoples ruining our sport

He's a judge. It's a subjective process. You may not agree with him on some fights, but he's not ruining anything. 

Machida HAS NO HONOR, he knows he lost, how can he think he won? 

No honor? Which one of the jackasses who posted or responded to this thread has ever stepped into a ring or cage? Come on folks, this is worst case of the dreaded Internet Tough Guy.  

Machida needs to MAN UP within a week or he has no credibility 

Check above. The fighter should come out and admit he lost? Okay. 

UFC 104 Main Card = Everything You Hate About MMA... 

It was a solid card. Rua showed us there's plenty of depth at 205. Cain Velasquez is ready for a shot at the title. Gleison Tibau body slammed Josh Neer all over the cage. Joe Stevenson re-emerged as a danger at 155. And Anthony Johnson, if he can make weight, continued to move up the welterweight ladder. You're right, what an awful night. 

Rua doesn't get to be champion because Joe Rogan says so 

See this is the main problem. If you think the judges somehow lacked objectivity, then the majority of folks ready to kill someone over an MMA fight are even worse for allowing Joe Rogan or any announcer to decide the outcome of a fight for you. 

UFC LHW Belt loses all credibility for now, sad night for UFC. 

Shogun only showed once again why this is the deepest division in the sport and the hardest belt to hold on to. Sad night, indeed. 

What would you do if you saw one of the 3 judges who scored the fight? 

Now this is just stupid. It's a fight. You didn't die because of the outcome. 

Dana White paid the judges anybody?

This is the same White who ripped the judges to shreds in the postfight press conference. Or was he just covering his tracks? Wink ... Wink.

I will never pay for another UFC PPV...

Sure you will. What else is there to do? You're posting a message on the internet at 5:30 a.m. on a Sunday. My guess is your not exactly swatting away the chickies.

Last night made me embarrassed to be an MMA fan 

Stop. It was a close decision. Be more embarrassed that you're part of a crew posting this kind of nonsense.

I love MMA fans, you guys are a big part of why the sport is where is it now. But in these cases, please dial it down a bit. 

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  1. goldoraktabarnak
    1. Posted by goldoraktabarnak Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    I agree, let's calm down people. I've seen way worse decisions in Boxing, and MMA is a lot harder to score. Not the best UFC gala ever, but a good night of fights. Like everybody else, I would have liked a bit more aggressivity in the main event, but what can you do, it was a chess match between two counterpunchers.
  2. Kyle
    2. Posted by Kyle Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    I agree with steve. It was a very close decision. Rua won the 4th and 5th rounds. Machida the third. But those first two rounds were so close they could have gone to either fighter. The judges just saw machida winning them.
  3. Mainevent
    3. Posted by Mainevent Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    You're right Steve. It was an awesome fight, and maybe the decision wasnt right, but no need to kill yourself or start hating mma altogether. it'll make for a good rematch.
  4. robf
    4. Posted by robf Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html
    where did machida win?
  5. boxy55
    5. Posted by boxy55 Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    Everybody knows NUTCRACKERJOEGAYMATH54 is the king of internet tough guys!! Let us all just wait and see what his gospel on all things will contain!! He may be right one day so let's see if it will be today!! NUTCRACKERJOEGAYMATH54 EXPOSED!!
  6. Adamn FooL
    6. Posted by Adamn FooL Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    thats what happens when you let it go to the judges plain and simple.
  7. Jesse
    7. Posted by Jesse Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:58 pm EDT

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    I don't care what Yahoo Sports has to say. Nothing can keep me from feeling "Macheated"
  8. Mikey
    8. Posted by Mikey Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    Judges like Cecil, Schorle, Dalby, Bird and a couple of brain dead idiots are ruining the sport. The fact that you can't recognize this is simply more proof that you're a hack, Cofield. Every single mma site and PBP out there scored the fight for Rua. There are criteria for judging fights which are clearly stated in the rules. I don't understand why it's always these worthless boxing castoff judges who seem to have such a fn hard time seeing what everyone else sees. Time and again these guys turn in nonsensical cards even if they've been in MMA for years now. CSAC once again proves to be one of worst commissions out there. Definitely sitting at a solid #2 all time worst commission. Also Virginia was in the right to correct their incompetence on the Beebe-Easton fight. Precedence or not, displaying ridiculous levels of incompetence in doing their jobs from weigh ins to illegal clothing in the cage should never be accepted by anyone.
    FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
    BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
    USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
    ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
    MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
    CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
    MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
    MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
    MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
    5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
    Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
    ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
    Sherdog:
    Jordan Breen — 48-47 Rua
    Brian Knapp — 48-47 Rua
    Mike Fridley — 50-45 Rua
    Even all your buddies at yahoo had it for him.
  9. Armageddon
    9. Posted by Armageddon Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    Everyone with regular eyesight could see Shogun win. Everyone, except the judges. Rua was robbed by White and all his buttkissers.
    Now what?
    Another $44.95 for the rematch? Are you insane? That is what Dana White was planning since the very beginning. I am wondering if you will be so stupid to pay for this rematch. White will appreciate it.
  10. adolfo d
    10. Posted by adolfo d Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    Ultimate farce company strikes back!!
  11. meatpopcycle
    11. Posted by meatpopcycle Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    i dont really think joe cares what you think boxy, i really think he comes on here to get people upset. why do you bash him before he even says anything, it looks like you lose to much sleep wondering what he will say next.
  12. Mainevent
    12. Posted by Mainevent Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:08 pm EDT

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    I say rematch with new judges.
  13. meatpopcycle
    13. Posted by meatpopcycle Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:12 pm EDT

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    wouldnt be surprised if the rematch was on spike, and since nothing can be proven im going to stick with it not being rigged. judges seem to never really know what is going on so i dont know why people are so upset. it was a good fight, most people believe rua won so im sure he can do it again(but win this time). it also seemed that lyoto didnt really put his heart into the training for this fight like he has in the past so the next fight might even be better.
  14. db
    14. Posted by db Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    The judgees blew this call, period!! Yeah, it's not he end of the world, but stop reflecting the blame to Shogun. Shogun went in, executed his gameplan and got robbed. I'm just tired of hearing people say it's shoguns' fault. Anyone who knows MMA, knows you can't always finish your opponent no matter how much you'd like to. Shogun didn't get nod on the decision so lets move to the rematch, but stop saying it's Shoguns fault. Judges take responsibility, you scewed up and its over with.....no ones perfect!!!
  15. Roger
    15. Posted by Roger Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Look how mainstream MMA is! Our loonie fans are just like conspiracy theories in the big 4.
  16. adolfo d
    16. Posted by adolfo d Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:28 pm EDT

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    This fight wasnt close. Machida never hurt Shogun. Shogun did hust machida. Machida didnt wanna fight No more in the 5th. Shogun's strikes were definitely more effective. Machida tried pushing the pace in the 3rd because he knew he was behind but thats not even his style and gassed quickly in the fourth. Not a close fight. 4 to 1 if your generous to Machida. That's not a close fight.
    Coefield has no integrity thats why he doesnt care about the integrity of the championship decision, and want us to drink the kool aid. Everyone was so upset about the Malinaggi decision. Yahoo ripped boxing. Now Coefield want us to take it lightly...
  17. RIP
    17. Posted by RIP Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    I lost all respect for Machida by saying that he won. And wow, steve, no one gives a [profane] bout what he thinks, ill never read his [profane] again
  18. Smokin Joe Fraze
    18. Posted by Smokin Joe Fraze Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:46 pm EDT

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    Haha I knew you stalked Sherdog forums, Cofield. Basiclly any decent article you've ever posted was stolen from either Sherdog, UG, Bloody Elbow or MMA news. Maggie has also been busted stealing pieces from them.
    The Beebe vs Easton fight was the worst decision in MMA history, glad it was overturned. This fight was not like that one. This fight was somewhere inbetween Hamill vs Bisping, Ricco vs Nog & Diego vs Karo. Not as clear cut as Hamill vs Bisping but not as close as Ricco vs Nog or Diego vs Karo. In the end the decision the judges rendered was wrong and the biggest problem with the judges scoring was that Hamilton scored round 4 for Machida. Round 4 was the most clear cut round of the fight, EASILY going to Shogun as this was the round that Rua's leg kicks and body kicks took Machida's movement completely out of the fight.
    Shogun was the aggressor, controlled the octagon, landed the most devastating strikes, won the counter striking battle, etc. In the end Shogun landed 17 head strikes to Machida's 14, landed 16 body strikes to Machida's 24 and Shogun landed 49 leg strikes to Machida's 4. Shogun landed more effective strikes and landed more strikes all 5 of the rounds. The only round you could CLEARLY give to Machida is round 3, the only rounds you could CLEARLY give to Shogun were rounds 4 and 5. Rounds 1 & 2 were either Shogun's or should've been scored a draw. In no way were those Machida's rounds. If people want to harp on that ridiculous noise that "in order to become the champ you have to beat the champ" then really what's the point of even having judges? If we use that logic then no champion should ever lose a belt unless they get finished in a fight. Big Nog in his Prime would've LOVED that logic.
  19. Mainevent
    19. Posted by Mainevent Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    Yes, there are bigger issues to worry about than Shogun getting robbed, but I gotta say, that Kevin Iole column on blaming Shogun and his corner is retarded. The blame should definitely be on the judges. Whatever. Looking forward to the rematch.
  20. torontoserge
    20. Posted by torontoserge Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    Joe rogan sucks and Steve Cofield needs to shut the f*** up. He has no right to judge the opinion of others.
  21. jayyolf1
    21. Posted by jayyolf1 Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:57 pm EDT

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    The decision was on the money.
    Round 1 was too close to call and in a championship fight it will always go to the champion.
    Rounds 2 and 3 Yes Shogun was kicking hard but he was also getting hit to the head and the body when he was throwing those kicks. So the rounds go to Lyoto because he seemed more active with his punches.
    Rounds 4 and 5 The kicks took affect and Lyoto didn't have any spring and was less active so Shogun wins both rounds.
    Lyoto 48 - Shogun 47: Same way the judges scored it.
    I think that when you use the kick strategy the judges start to develop expectations that you will completely chop down you opponent so he will not continue (which didn't happen), break some ribs and the guy gives up (didn't happen eigther), or to setup some kind of combination flury to either knock out your opponent or take him down for some ground and pound (which didn't happen).
    You can't cry when you leave the fight to the judges in a championship fight because most likely you will lose.
  22. jayyolf1
    22. Posted by jayyolf1 Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:00 pm EDT

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    Have a REMATCH so all of you haters can STFU!!!!!!!! This time Rua better finish!!! Then there will be no doubt!!!!
  23. HeyNow
    23. Posted by HeyNow Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:03 pm EDT

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    The Lole column was bogus....blame is corner? For what? They were telling him the truth. Judges are part of the game, "finish your opponenent" easier said than done - if that is the only way to win then let's go back to no time limit and no judges. Until then lets look at these judges for who they are, who they are appointed by.
  24. jayyolf1
    24. Posted by jayyolf1 Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:04 pm EDT

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    you DON"T win the title with LEG KICKS!!!! GREAT DECISION!!!! Lyoto landed more knees and punches!!! It is up to the challenger to take the title and Rua DIDN"T!!!!!!!!!!!!

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