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Is delirium a common ailment amongst UFC fighters? Apparently driving like a jackass may be. Now it's only two instances, Quinton Jackson (pictured during his July arrest) and Josh Neer, but the cases are eerily similar.

Ultimate Fight Night 17 co-main event fighter Neer was arrested in Des Moines earlier this morning.  A Polk County (Iowa) police report says that Neer hit a police car and engaged the cops in a 15-minute car chase. Neer was finally stopped when his car hit "stop sticks".

The Des Moines Register describes the incident and chase:

Just after midnight, a squad car on routine patrol was stopped for a red light on Court Avenue when the car behind rear-ended it, according to a written report. The woman told police her car was also struck from behind.

The 25-year-old male driver in the third car, a black Audi Quattro, then pulled out, crossed into oncoming traffic on Court Avenue, and turned north on Fourth Street, the police report stated.

Police chased the Audi 20 miles.

At Sixth and Euclid avenues, the officer attempted a stop the fleeing car by hitting the back right quarter panel with the front left side of the squad car, a technique known as a precision immobilization technique, or PIT maneuver.

The Audi spun around but the driver regained control and continued west on Euclid Avenue.

Des Moines police continued the chase as the Audi traveled into Urbandale, then onto Interstate Highway 80 eastbound. The Audi reached speeds in excess of 100 mph in a 65 mph zone, the police report says. The chase ended at mile marker 137.

Neer was released on $7,000 bail and charged with eluding the police and operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Delirium was the explanation for what fueled Jackson's driving rampage in Southern California back in July.

The Atlantic did a nice job of recapping the aftermath of Jackson's chase and capture:

“I called (UFC owner) Lorenzo (Fertitta) and our attorney at three in the morning, after I saw Rampage that night, and I’m like, ‘You guys have no (expletive) idea what I just saw. You have no idea what I just saw,’” said UFC president Dana White about visiting Jackson in jail.

The next day, the police went to Jackson’s home and took him to a psychiatric ward, where he was held for 72 hours. The immediate diagnosis was that the fighter was suffering from delirium induced by severe dehydration, reportedly caused by a week of staying up all night on energy drinks. When he was arrested, he hadn’t eaten or slept in four days.

The UFC did not suspend or penalize Jackson. He simply took five months off before winning his comeback fight at UFC 92 against Wanderlei Silva.

Will the UFC wait for the system to process Neer's incident or does it need to send a message and take him off the high profile SpikeTV Feb. 7 main event against Mac Danzig?

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  1. Dubya b
    1. Posted by Dubya b Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    When were fighters supposed to be role model boy scouts?
  2. Farthammer
    2. Posted by Farthammer Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Gee, I wonder if Dana will treat Neer like his boy Rampage...or if he cites "Drunk is different than delirious" and cuts his ass.
  3. BearDown
    3. Posted by BearDown Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    How was his bail only $7,000 for evading the police and DUI/DWI? WTF? From the article he should have been charged for hit and run, evading, reckless driving, speeding and DUI/DWI. Sounds like he already caught a break with a $7,000 bail (not bond)!! You don't have to be a boy scout but following the law actually works in society.
  4. Nutcracker
    4. Posted by Nutcracker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Jens Pulver has a pro boxing backround.??. He beat four dorks from Iowa and Illinois . That is like saying I am a professional farmer from Manhattan... You go boy...
  5. MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts
    5. Posted by MJ touched hearts and kiddies private parts Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    Watch Dana kick Neer's butt to the kerb after this latest debacle. The only difference being that Neer is not a ticket seller and revenue earner for UFC like Jackson is. You can get away with being a jerk off in the UFC, as long as you're bringing in dollars to the company.
    I've said it before and I will say it again, it pays to be one of Dana's boys. Just ask Quentin and Junie.
  6. Wreckinball
    6. Posted by Wreckinball Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    Throw him and Rampage in jail. They have both earned it.
  7. Stevie G.
    7. Posted by Stevie G. Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    As I see it, drunk is quite different than 'delirious'. Rampage wasn't looking to become delirious. Under the circumstances, it happened, with all the goings on in his life. Neer sure as hell was looking to get drunk. I'm no expert, but I expect the sentencing for both fighters to be significantly different. Expect Rampage to face minimal charges, with likely probation. Expect Neer to face jail time.
    We'll have to let the courts decide, but America is about 'innocent until proven guilty'.
  8. The Great White
    8. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    Let me get this straight. Jackson has NEVER had a reported case of "delirium" before his arrest and coincidentally AFTER his lost to Forest he had "delirium". I am so sick and tired of peoples EXCUSES that it makes me sick. Jackson should not have had any favorable treatment by Dana or the authorities. He endangered peoples lives along with all the other charges, evading police etc. He should have been in jail or going to jail just like Neer should be. Excuses and lies are easy to see if you don't have your fan favorite blinders on.
  9. Darkness!
    9. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Dynastay-
    what is ur deal with Dana White, dude? None of this story has anything to do with Dana White. He's Rampage and Neer's employer- not their dad or babysitter. They're adult men, and should act accordingly. It is not White, the ufc, or anyone else's responsibility to look out for them. That being said- I don't agree with Dana posting Rampage's bail as he did, and proceeding to make excuses for him. But I do understand it from the business standpoint. I think Dana did that more for the ufc than he did for Rampage. Rampage Jackson is one of the ufc's biggest stars, and his childish actions made the ufc, and the whole sport of mma look bad. If anything, u should thank Dana White, or whoever came up with that ridiculous delirium cover story, for keeping the media and the government off of mma's ass after Rampage's actions. I think what Rampage did was just as inexcusable as Neer's drunk driving, and until I see med. documentation of it, I don't buy the delirium story for a min... but I understand the purpose of it. So again, I ask u- why do u hate on Dana White and the ufc for once again saving the sport of mma?
  10. AdamG
    10. Posted by AdamG Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Let's compare this to the Rampage incident:
    Rampage had just lost his title, Neer hadn't.
    Rampage had just found out his manager wasn't dealing him straight, Neer hadn't.
    Rampage had stayed up for four nights drinking energy drinks and conversing with God, Neer had gotten drunk.
    Rampage was driving a monster truck with his likeness painted on the side, and Neer was driving an Audi.
    Rampage was fifty one fiftied two days after his incident, Neer issued a statement via a spokesperson.
    Yup, totally the same.
    Dana will give the haters a reason to hate, but any logical person can see these incidents will be handled differently. You don't see baseball players getting fired when they get DUI's, why would MMA fighters be held to a higher standard? Cofield's inability to come up with a clever title to this article (probably due to a hangover) has steered us terribly wrong. Other than Neer and Rampage both being MMA fighters and having incidents in their cars with police, there are few parallels between the two stories.
  11. Wreckinball
    11. Posted by Wreckinball Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    Don't defend Rampage, Stevie. He committed felonies. They both deserve to be released from their contracts. Both of them should be forced to work at McDonalds, outside.
  12. HAHA
    12. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    did any of them run your grand ma over?
    then y do u care?
    let the justice system play itself out
  13. HAHA
    13. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    yes both of them r stupid as hell
    and deserve a to have some sort of punishment
    but what about this makes u never want to see them fight again?
    "oh gosh he got in trouble with the law, i never want to see him in the octagon again"
    seriously listne to how that sounds
    there are alot more people doing alot worse things that need to be punished in the world
    that walk away scot free due to celebrity or $
  14. The Great White
    14. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    Adam - while I totally agree with you about NOT being held to a higher standard to other sports etc. I have to say that I disagree with you on the two totally different things argument. First, all the things you listed as to WHY they drove drunk or under the influence of "power drinks" etc is purely speculation. Rampage lost his title, Neer didn't = SO WHAT? Rampage had just found out his manager wasn't handling him straight, Neer hadn't = SO WHAT? Rampage had stayed up for four nights drinking energy drinks and conversing with God, Neer had gotten drunk = SO WHAT? Those "points" are again speculation on your part and have nothing to do with.......really anything! They are both exactly the same in the fact that they BOTH got into vehicles, ran from police while putting all innocent bystanders in harms way. Using your logic, any TWO drunk drivers in the history of the world would NOT have few parallels in their stories because the "reasoning" behind getting behind the wheel would be different. AGAIN, who cares why they did it or what influence they were under. They were both wrong.
  15. The Great White
    15. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    HA HA - we usually agree with each other, but come on dude your logic here is hard to figure out. "did any of them run your grand ma over? then y do u care?" Seriously??? SOOO, I guess any kind of crime that happens by anyone doesn't matter to you unless it happens to a member of your family?!? The simple fact that Rampage was allowed to fight BEFORE he has dealt with his legal issues fully, I have a huge problem with. IF he has delirium, has he gotten it dealt with?? IF his delirium was SOOO out of wack to drive his "truck" on sidewalks and run from cops then I DO NOT want to watch him fight until he has dealt with his "supposed" issues. If he has delirium and lost to the axe murderer, what IF he went off AGAIN! Still, I don't understand the "if it didn't happen to your family why do you care?" argument. Do you use that same argument to pedifiles in your neighborhood, convicts released from prison etc? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't understand that from anyone.
  16. Nutcracker
    16. Posted by Nutcracker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Great White. I dont excuse nor am I an apologist for Evans. But I do know living in California if he didn't have any prior serious offenses on his record, it is amazing what a good lawyer and a little contrition will do. If he wasn't on parole or probation, and has no priors he will never do any serious time. Right, Wrong, or indifferent. It is not a crime to continue to make a living unless you are under house arrest or specifically told by a judge not to. He will need those winnings to pay his lawyers..
  17. HAHA
    17. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    i understand your point
    and no im not saying it doesnt matter
    im jus sayin there is no point to get all worked up and shun these dudes
    we have no control over the situation, so everyone has their opinions
    these two idiots luckily didnt injure anyone severely
    if they did i would say throw them behind the bars immediately
    but since they broke the laws and didnt hurt anyone but themselves, careers, and reputation
    lets just see what happens, hopefully they will get a fair punishment for their idiotuc antics
    i didnt mean it doesnt matter if they didnt hurt anyone in your family
    i just dont like when everyone passes judgement on them before they even get to court
    i am a fan of rampage and when i saw what he did that made me almost not support him any longer
    but everyone goes thru things, and some people dont know how to handle them
    hopefully they can serve their punishment and comeback as better people
    sorry if i put u off with the grand ma comment
    i jus dont like when everyone is with the "off with their head" mentality
  18. Stevie G.
    18. Posted by Stevie G. Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    ViolentBreed,
    I call it as I see it. If the courts decide that Rampage gets jail time, so be it. But its the court's ultimate decision... and if I were to bet, I'm pretty confident Rampage will get off with a much lesser punishment than Neer. That's not a defence of him, that's a prediction. Once the courts make their ruling, we'll not for sure how good my prediction is.
  19. Stevie G.
    19. Posted by Stevie G. Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    Another point. People drink alcohol to get drunk.
    No one drinks energy drinks to get delirius.
    I really have more sympathy for Rampage than I do for Neer. The fact that witnesses have claimed that Rampage was way out of character during his incident, and he certainly was not trying to become delirius. It just so happened he became temporily insane, even being checked into a pyscological hospital.
    Neither is excusable. Let me put that out there. However, as I've said, based on the facts, I predict Rampage's punishment to be much less than Neer's.
    We'll see what happens.
  20. The Great White
    20. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    BTW, in relation to other sports. IF a baseball player, or basketball player, or football player had run his monster truck on the sidewalk, ran from police etc he would have been suspended. without quesiton that individual would have had disiplinary action taken against him by his sport. That suspension would have cost him money etc. Also, I DO believe that each fighter is innocent until proven guilty. But each case is apparent that "at least" running from police was involved. IF I were Dana White, BOTH fighters would be suspended until the legal action was over. THEN depending on if they were proven innocent or guilty would I take further action. This way the Dana haters out there couldn't blast him for being too easy on one fighter and not another. Rampage should not have been allowed to fight. Too bad he needs money for lawyers!!!! He should have thought about that before his ONE case EVER of delirium, sheesh! IMO, a one time case of delirium where you run your monster truck on sidewalks and run from police = alcohol or drug use. Sorry, but true!
  21. mmafan
    21. Posted by mmafan Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 pm EDT

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    I'd like to see both of these guys punished-within reason. But fire them from thier jobs? c'mon-everyone has made mistakes and what they did was completely wrong-but lets put away the firing squads, i hope the punishment fits the crime and lets face it......people are guilty of a lot worse things and still keep thier jobs and are given a chance to pay back society as well. In neers case....he should have to pay any fines and surrender his drivers license like everyone else would since his was a dui. his attempting to evade will cost him as well.rampage? a little different since his didnt involve alcohol but did involve personal injury. i think rampage will pay more for the alledged miscarraige in civil court than he will in criminal court for his reckles driving. i agree with nutcracker....its amazing what happens here in california. rampage has a good chance of recieving a lite sentence and fines. a little slap on the wrist and everythings forgotton in a year .
    btw.....happy new year to the usual suspects-drok, beardown,ican,ron m,great white,karl , darkness and the rest!
  22. Stevie G.
    22. Posted by Stevie G. Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    With all due respect Great White, I think I'll take the diagnosis from medical professionals that he was delirius rather than your bold accusation that he was using drugs or alcohol.
  23. Stevie G.
    23. Posted by Stevie G. Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    And James, the miscarriage has been proven as an unrelated incident. That does not factor into Rampage's case any longer.
  24. mmafan
    24. Posted by mmafan Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 pm EDT

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    Steve.....I don't believe thats been proven in court yet. In criminal or civil........remember oj? not guilty in criminal doesn't mean not guilty in civil. again.....this is california.
  25. Darkness!
    25. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    James, Nutcracker, Ican2-
    man- I really need to move out to Cali... u guys can get away with practically anything!
    : p

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