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After a dominating victory over B.J. Penn at UFC 94, Georges St. Pierre is clearly the better fighter. GSP left no doubt. And yet now there is, thanks to one of his cornermen, Phil Nurse. It's pretty clear by watching the video that Nurse had some Vaseline on his hands when he rubbed St. Pierre's shoulders, back and chest between the first and second rounds.

Why is that a big deal in mixed martial arts? It's significant because of all the grappling and maneuvering that takes place on the ground. St. Pierre was on top of Penn in the second round and the Hawaiian tried several times to shift his legs up to work for a triangle choke or an armbar. Grip and some friction is huge in these cases and a slippery fighter would make it more difficult to lock on one of those holds. Above you can see, Nurse apply Vaseline to GSP's face, then get more Vaseline, then rub his shoulders, arms and back.

Penn's trainer Rudy Valentino told InsideFighting that St. Pierre cheated and the Vaseline thwarted his fighter's strategy:

"To cheat to win is not honorable. Why need another edge? Our gameplan was on the ground, not striking because we knew Georges had good kicks. We planned to work off the back."

Valentino says they warned the Nevada State Athletic Commission before the fight alleging that St. Pierre did it before their meeting in 2006 and that Matt Serra's camp claimed the same thing happened in Serra's second fight against GSP.

Greg Jackson, GSP's trainer hurt his reputation according to Valentino:

"I respect Greg Jackson but to do something like that, his integrity has been compromised."

Jackson told his side of the story to MMAWeekly:

"In between rounds, you always want to put on vaseline on (a fighter’s face). So Phil Nurse put all the Vaseline on his face, so his hands might have had a miniscule amount left over from that, when he went around the side and rubbed a little point on his back, and tapped on his chest."

Watching the scenarios (1, 2, 3), show Nurse did more than tap the chest and rub a little point on GSP's back.

Jackson chalked all of this up to an overreaction by the NSAC:

"At that point, somebody in the audience thought we were greasing George down, and ran over and told the commission that we were greasing his body down. The commission came in and said ‘you can’t grease him down,’ which didn’t work. They said ‘you’re putting Vaseline on his back,’ and Phil’s like, ‘oh, there might be a little on my fingers, but it wasn’t intentional at all, and of course they wiped it right off and it was gone, so it wasn’t a factor in the fight at all."

"The Commission" was actually NSAC executive director Keith Kizer. He bolted into the cage when he saw Nurse doing the same thing between the second and third rounds. Cage Writer spoke with Kizer after the fight and he was still steaming, saying that the rubbing of the back with Vaseline was completely inappropriate. But he was unsure if it had been done between the first and second.

UFC president Dana White also thought it was a serious violation:

"I saw the commission jump up there and flip out," said White.  "They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think. I personally didn't see it, the commission did. And that's about as illegal as you can get... I'm sure the commission is going to deal (with it)."

White didn't believe that it affected the outcome of the fight but he re-stated that illegal is illegal: 

"You could have put Vaseline on from head to toe, that wasn't the point, the point was you don't do it. It's illegal. The guy who did it needs to be punished, it's not (St. Pierre's) fault. The question is what happens to a guy that does that. You've got to put the smack down on him. He should lose his license."

Ultimately, did the use of the Vaseline win the fight for St. Pierre? No. But Penn's camp does have a right to complain. 

St. Pierre should be getting props for being the better conditioned fighter, designing and executing the perfect gameplan. The way he wore down Penn in the first round by holding his left leg up on three occasions with the threat of a single-leg takedown, was brilliant. It allowed him takedown a tired Penn with ease in each of the next three rounds. More importantly, GSP was able to pass guard and shift between full guard and side control as if he were fighting a first-year jiu-jitsu student. Now Penn, other fighters who dislike St. Pierre and fans may call for an asterisk on his dominant victory.

Tip to MMAWeekly, InsideFighting and CagePotato for quotes

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  1. Shaun
    1. Posted by Shaun Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    Alves will pick him apart..Alves has great stand up and great take down defense.He might just knock him out....But this thing about GSP's corner rubbing vaseline on him?? Wow thats crazy but if this is true I dont think they will take the belt or anything away from him...*Dana White and the ufc wont really do anything i dont think..Not if they treat him like Anderson Silva haha..
  2. Brynn77
    2. Posted by Brynn77 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:39 pm EDT

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    Vaseline....good one yea thats what helped GSP win right
  3. Brickhausen
    3. Posted by Brickhausen Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    Why even post this story? Not only were you beaten to the scoop by almost a full day but there's already another story ON YAHOO revealing that there wasn't even a formal complaint after all. There isn't any news here!
  4. kevin m
    4. Posted by kevin m Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    This whole thing is ridiculous!!! This whole story has/is being totally blown out of proportion by the media. Just like everything else in the world, the media controls the minds and perceptions of all people. This is a non-story. For the record, I am not even a GSP fan, but to utilize this 'vaseline' thing as an attempt to try and excuse or condone BJ's destruction is asinine.
    Cofield, I have been reading these blogs for a long time. I never post, but I always read them because once in a great while there is actually a story worth reading. I have always felt bad for you in the past when a countless number of bloggers have bashed you for your opinions. Now I see why. This blog shows that you are nothing more than yet another bottom feeding, propaganda driven, media scumbag. It would have been different if you showed even the slightest bit of objectiveness in your article, but it comes across as nothing more than a lame attempt to excuse BJ from being completely and utterly decimated. Oh, that's right; you picked BJ to win. Did you lose some money on that pick from the Vegas bookies Cofield?
    This whole story is nothing more than an attempt to draw water from a well that never had water in it to begin with. The media loves to lead the sheep and force them to believe what they say, with total disregard to logic and reason. Anyone, and this coming from a neutral party in this fight, who believes that this vaseline incident had even the slightest impact in the outcome of this fight needs to loosen their grip on BJ Penn's nutsack. Done and over! Drop this crap as it is not worth reporting.
  5. swrestler
    5. Posted by swrestler Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm EDT

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    found this on the internet...thought I should share:
    there once was a fighter named Penn,
    he fought George and got beaten again,
    didn't hurt him one bit,
    like a [profane] he quit,
    and now he's not even top ten.
  6. kevin m
    6. Posted by kevin m Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    By the way Cofield,
    " Now Penn, other fighters who dislike St. Pierre and fans may call for an asterisk on his dominant victory."
    I see no evidence of this in your link. I see a link to Matt Hughes' analysis of UFC 87. If you are going to make a claim at least back it up with a link that supports your argument. You truly are a joke. Nutcracker is right.....Although I don't share his views on the whole MMA vs Boxing debate, I agree with him that you are one of the worst sports journalists that I have ever seen. Damn, and I thought that ESPN had some chumps.
  7. Mishnish
    7. Posted by Mishnish Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    it's not the first time a fighter from Greg Jackson's camp was accused of greasing. Tito Ortiz accused Rashad Evans of greasing after their fight. Rashad even admitted he had some vaseline on him arm. GSP should be punished along with his trainers. It's hard to believe GSP didn't see or know his trainers were rubbing vaseline on his shoulders and back. Also, he a professional fighter and should've stopped his trainers from greasing him because it's illegal. I hope GSP mans up and admit he was greasing during his fight.
  8. KJ-MMA Armchair
    8. Posted by KJ-MMA Armchair Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    Penn's camp will find any excuse they can. Poor judging in their last fight. Freak rib injury against Hughes. Poor judging in the first Pulver fight all thoses years ago.
    The vaseline was wiped off with a towel, so it's a non-issue.
    I'm surprised they didn't complain that GSP trained better and is a better fighter then Penn, and therefore it's not fair.
  9. KJ-MMA Armchair
    9. Posted by KJ-MMA Armchair Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    As a funny aside though, I can see GSP being called Grease-SP from now on haha.
  10. J-Horn
    10. Posted by J-Horn Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    This is a strange strange story, I have seen a lot of MMA matches, and I thought it was quite weird to see a corner man apply vaseline in the first place, I have seen the hired cutmen to do it, but not cornermen. I tried to remember a time that I have seen that and could not remember a time, and then the rubdown on the shoulders afterward, maybe there is a legit complaint there. BUT with all that said, it had NO outcome on the fight, personally going into the fight I really thought it could either way but GSP would come out with a victory due to his size and stamina....well I was way wrong...GSP whooooped his lilly a$$....I think the vaseline thing should be looked into, but it had absolutely no outcome of the match....
  11. duane
    11. Posted by duane Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 pm EDT

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    Cry baby penn he is i sore loser gsp is the best and will not get beat for a long long time gsp #1 fan detroit mich get over it penn you really suck at mma is not for you your old and fat!!!! mcdonalds is hiring...
  12. Jonathan B
    12. Posted by Jonathan B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Truely pathetic article. you are one strange dude cofield! we have heard your love for bj for a while and then stoop this low. maybe try to be objective.
    i only hope some fighters start to read your crap. you should be shunned throughout the mma industry. go work for star magazine... or some kind of tabloid.
  13. duane
    13. Posted by duane Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 pm EDT

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    Lmfao bj penn is a fat little roll-e poll-e gsp is very fit come on people look at cry-baby penn then super gsp
  14. ketchup sandwich
    14. Posted by ketchup sandwich Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    It is a "clear" violation and it is right to have a report filed with the commission. Trainers know the rules and this is something that needs addressed. However it has little to no bearing on the match. I don't hear BJ's camp wanting to do it again. I don't think BJ will want another beat down any time real soon.
  15. Jonathan B
    15. Posted by Jonathan B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Also.....the pictures that you posted are totally misleading. Nurse never went back to the vasaline after he started on GSP's face. And he worked on his face for a while. There couldn't have been much left. They were being constantly watched also.
    And of course the guys from the NSAC were pissed. Although I think it's obvious what was going on, it still should not occur due to clowns like Cofield who want to make pathetic excuses for their loved ones.
    I think it was a bonehead move on Nurse's part but it was a mistake and not cheating. Anyone with half a brain can see that what he was doing was some kind of breathing/relaxing technique.
    I loved BJ before but this is way over the top. Really disappointed in his camp. And Cofield you are even worse due to this article being so biased.
    Are you really a journalist?
  16. Paul P
    16. Posted by Paul P Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    Good article... very fair I feel. The cheating didn't win GSP the fight, but it was cheating nevertheless
  17. peter n
    17. Posted by peter n Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    its not penn complaining its his camp and rightfully so, it doesnt matter how bad gsp destroyed him, the patriots didnt win the super bowl that didnt stop 100's of you guys from getting on there case for cheating. win or lose cheating is cheating. I guy as talented as GSP along with an extra advantage is very hard to beat.
    And GSP is full of it if he wants to claim he didnt know, because he knows damn well you cant have vasline on your body.
    And to all u punks complaining about how penn always complains, GSP was giving the biggest B.S. excuses i have ever heard when serra gave him the biggest lop sided lose i have ever seen in a title fight. GSP talking about o my dad was sick, o i wasnt prepared, im better then him i just wasnt ready.... yea no duh u werent ready u got your face hammered in and this was gsp talking not his camp, so GSP is the real p u s s y who cant show class when he loses. then he gets a rematch in his hometown for the title with serra coming of injury. UFC politics have to make sure you have a canadian champion to i guess. I hope Alves exposes that chin of GSP just like serra did, and for all u GSP a s s kissers 30+ unanswered punches is not a lucky punch, well see if the knee GSP gets in the face is lucky to
  18. MeetyourMMaker
    18. Posted by MeetyourMMaker Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm EDT

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    Totally agree kevin m, Cofield is back pedaling because his pick was WAY OFF for this fight. Now he's trying to damage GSP and Greg Jackson. It's pretty low.
  19. Lynchman
    19. Posted by Lynchman Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    As has been pointed out, the pictures here are totally misleading.
    NEVER was vasoline applied to the skin. The hands went to the face first.
    And the rubbing motions were repeated in the same manner each time.
    One of the GIFs online shows Phil massaging GSP's temples before going to the body...actually that is the entire clip. The GIF shows his hands come off of the temples and go to the body. That clip is being cited as an example of Phil taking vasoline from the face so he can put it on the body.
    If Steve wants to do this right, he will interview Kizer. I want to hear his thoughts on this.
  20. BEEF
    20. Posted by BEEF Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    I don't think the point of the article is making an excuse for BJ Penn in losing the fight. The guy got his a** kicked by GSP, the obvious better fighter. I think the point of the article is the cornerman tried to cheat and got caught red-handed. Twice. And I agree with Dana White, he should never corner another fight ever again and should lose his license. Here's to a Georges St. Pierre vs Anderson Silva fight sometime before 2010 is over.
  21. HeyNow
    21. Posted by HeyNow Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    This act did not have a major impact on the outcome but it should be addressed because it is cheating. Remember Anthony Macius vs Dan Severn?
  22. knuckle sandwich
    22. Posted by knuckle sandwich Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:09 pm EDT

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    the Vaseline didn't change the outcome imo.... but it was a big no no. I re watched the fight. In between the 3rd & 4th rounds this Phil guy runs out to get GSP with an open jar of Vaseline!! watch it, looks fuked up and sophomoric
    but did NOT chane the out come...and I wanted BJP to win....
  23. Darkness!
    23. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    was it wrong for GSP's cornerman to rub vaseline on his back and shoulders between rounds? Uh- YES! Did it at all effect the outcome of the fight? NOOOOOO! I've always liked BJ Penn as a fighter; but he was completely dominated at 94. And now he and his camp are being crybabies, making excuses for not being better trained and prepared for the fight of his career. He could've taken every steroid on the market, AND paid off the judges, and it prob. wouldn't have helped him win... that's how bad of a mismatch this was. For Penn and his camp to be making excuses after a loss like this does nothing but show disrespect to his opponent, who proved to be BY FAR the better athlete, and really makes them sound like a bunch of whiny b!tches. Like I said- I've always liked BJ as a fighter- could even forgive his cockiness cuz he's always backed it up. But any more of this crybaby stuff from Penn and I'll prob. lose all respect for him. Just admit that u were undertrained, unprepared, and the better man won sat. night. he's still the best LtWt. in the world, until someone proves otherwise; but GSP is out of his league.
  24. Darkness!
    24. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    BTW- since we're talking about cheating here-
    (from an objective point of view- I'm not a big fan of either side, but) did anyone else kinda think the refs cheated the Cards out of a super bowl win last night; or was it just me?
  25. Ro E
    25. Posted by Ro E Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:00 pm EDT

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    GSP is a Canadian [profane] yall are arguing bout some bs.. penn sucks too

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