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ESPN did a nice piece on UFC heavyweight prospect and former WWE wrestler Brock Lesnar. He indicated that one of the reasons he left wrestling was a borderline addiction to drinking and pain pills. The E60 piece done by Tom Farrey had a nice storybook feeling to it until the interviewer decided to ask Lesnar a question about steroids. Our favorite Brock, Cantankerous Brock, came to the surface as he stormed off the interview set. Lesnar is heard off-camera yelling:

"I have never failed a (expletive) drug test."

The former NCAA Division I wrestling champ does look considerably smaller now than he did when wrestled for Vince McMahon. Though part of that is a necessity because the upper limit for heavyweights in MMA is 265 lbs. Lesnar naturally walks around at 290 lbs. and probably wrestled professionally in excess of 300.

Snippy Brock made an appearance later in the piece. I doesn't take much to set the off the big guy. Lesnar was told about a Randy Couture comment saying that he's stronger now than he was 10 years ago. Lesnar responded:

"My ass he is. I'm 31 and I'm not as strong as I was 10 years ago. That's a straight up lie."

Farrey's question about steroids was perfectly acceptable. Lesnar's reaction was childish. I doubt he knows Farrey. If he did then I could understand why he was squeamish around the question. Afterall, it was Farrey who sandbagged Miguel Tejada about his age.

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  1. Parrot
    1. Posted by Parrot Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    Americans are dumb nearly all your athletes are on roids but the authorities use to turn a blind eye because they were bringing in big money. Example Roy Jones jr failed a drug test in 1999 but was never banned, Carl lewis i believe failed a drug test in the 80's but was never banned. The only good thing Bush has done is to crack down on the drug cheats but more needs to be done.
  2. chano
    2. Posted by chano Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:02 pm EDT

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    Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, case inpoint Shaun Sherk. Finger pointing and alligation started as he was champion and then yet stripped of his title due to possitive drug inhansments that were found.
    Juice will be around for along time some might turn there away from it and live a normal living life without the help of drugs some use it to get fame and fortune. Sports see this as a money maker especially if he or she is a rising star for whom ever they work for.
    UFC has done there part to keep that kind of reputation out of there sport and takes action for it so this will no longer happen. So until Brock is foind guilt and comes out possitive i don't believe he's used and i'm sticking to that until otherwise.
  3. Wreckinball
    3. Posted by Wreckinball Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    This is a free country. If you're not from here, we really don't care what you think. You forgot to mention that our athletes are also the highest paid. Watch your mouth son, you gotta eat with it too.
  4. The Unsilent Majority
    4. Posted by The Unsilent Majority Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    "The only good thing Bush has done is to crack down on the drug cheats but more needs to be done. "
    And you say Americans are dumb?
  5. Karl A
    5. Posted by Karl A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    Violentbreed....ditto, ditto, ditto!
    I'll be pulling for Couture but I'm not sure he can pull it off.
    Ryan p, I had a political reply to send back to you about your Bush comment but I don't think you're worth one. This is an MMA blog and I won't get started with political views here.
  6. Nutcracker
    6. Posted by Nutcracker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Hey ryan p.. I bet whatever country you are from, you no doubt are one of Americas 'colonies'..
    I am sure Lesnar has used roids. I wouldn't be surprised if he still is. It is pretty easy to get undetectable roids. Any chemist worth their salt can whip a roid like ' the clear '.. Remember they can only test for what they have a precedent for.. Hong Kong is full of 'pharmacists' that will whip you up a 'cocktail' that is totally undetectable. Judging from Lesnar's b$tchy outbursts, I would say he is most def juiced..
  7. knuckle sandwich
    7. Posted by knuckle sandwich Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:09 pm EDT

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    HIC
    I can't deny your take on Lesnar using steroids. And Brock saying "I've never failed a fuking drug test" is NOT exactly a strong denial if you think about it.
  8. Parrot
    8. Posted by Parrot Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    Did Brock lesnar not get caught with roids on him whilst he was at college? He looks smaller now because hes probably doing way more cardio!
  9. Ken Wilder
    9. Posted by Ken Wilder Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:50 pm EDT

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    War Couture! Saw this yesterday on ESPN and I came away thinking somewhere in Randy's gameplan he's going to try to find a way to frustrate Brock. I'm thinking leg kicks ala Forrest vs. Rampage.
  10. Nutcracker
    10. Posted by Nutcracker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Ken. He better get those kicks in quick and get out. Otherwise I can see Lesnar rushing him as he kicks, and pancaking him into the mat. It would be his 'football' approach to MMA.. I cant wait to see how Couture handles him. You have to say as wrestlers, he cancels out Coutures' advantage. I just dont know if Couture has other tricks in his bag to deal with Lesnars size and wrestling ability..
    As for roids. I dont see how guys could train and compete in most any contact sport and not use them.
  11. The Great White
    11. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    Come on now! NO WAY Lesnar was or is on roids at any point! It is PERFECTLY natural to weigh 300 bills and have no body fat. We see people like him every day walking down the street!
    I think Randy can counter Lesnar's wrestling. It all hinges on if Randy can not get hit coming in. If Randy gets Lesnar down, Randy will GNP Lesnar. If they clinch, they will negate each other's wrestling and Randy will dirty box him to death. Randy has the experience in wars, Lesnar doesn't. I give Randy a better than 50/50 shot at winning. Win or lose, I can't wait to see it.
  12. HAHA
    12. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    what up drok?
    u are rite, lesanr needs to stop throwing hissy fits all the time
    it makes him look like a lil cry baby whiner
    maybe his testosterone lvls are down from steroid abuse HAHA
    and Great White
    r u being sarcastic about the 300 lbs and no body fat normal?
    u have good points bout the match up
    i think Coutures dirty boxing seperates him from many other people in mma
    i got couture winning cuz everytime i count him out he wins!
    watch him get his ass handed to him this time HAHA
  13. BearDown
    13. Posted by BearDown Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    Fact of the matter is; the question should have never been asked in a so called "professional" interview. It was way out of context and the reporter knew from the get go he was going to ask that stupid question (you could see it coming because the interview suddenly took a turn for the worst). Honestly, "who gives a flying fukk" if Lesnar used, or still uses roids. Until he tests positive it should be a non-issue and not media worthy of a question. I spent my HS and college years taking drug tests because of accusations (also because of the random drug tests done for athletes in college) by individuals who didn't have the dedication nor drive to bust their a$$ working out. So, I can see why Lesnar gets so pissed about it. It just gets a little old when thats all you hear come out of peoples mouth.
  14. knuckle sandwich
    14. Posted by knuckle sandwich Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:09 pm EDT

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    hey HIC
    "I just dont know if Couture has other tricks in his bag to deal with Lesnars size and wrestling ability.. "
    no problemo there pal.... I heard Kimmy has been working with Randy on his boxing. LMFAO!
  15. Farthammer
    15. Posted by Farthammer Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    barry bonds never failed a drug test either, and who doesn't think he did steroids?
    look, either make them legal and let everyone do them, or start including blood tests and don't let anyone do them. i don't care about steroids at all, but as long as there are some people playing by the rules and abstaining from them while others partake, then we have an unlevel field.
  16. LB #31
    16. Posted by LB #31 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    Brock's actions aren't helping his case, but it seems to me that Randy should be the one who should be under the microscope about steriod allegations. The man is 45 yrs old, doesn't have to cut weight to fight as a heavy-weight, and he's still has more muscle definition than almost all the other MMA fighters who do have to cut weight!
    To Great White: I'm not directly disagreeing with you about it being possible for Randy to out-wrestle Brock, because anything can happen in MMA and Randy never ceases to amaze me. However, assuming both of their wrestling abilities are about equal, Brock still has a 40-plus lbs. weight and strength advantage. I wasn't the best wrestler in highschool but if I practiced with teamates who were much worse than me, but they were still 30 lbs. heavier, they'd give me all kinds of problems. When I practiced with guys who's skill level was the same as mine and they were 30 lbs. heavier than me, they kicked my ass. Bad. Randy is much heavier than me, so the 40-plus lbs. he'll give up to Brock won't be as big of a percentage of his body weight, but you get the idea.
    And after watching Brock take down Heath Herring with ease everytime they locked up, I have the feeling that Randy will be spending a lot of time on his back, which is a bad place to be against Brock if you're not a BJJ expert like Mir.
  17. Darkness!
    17. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    haha-
    i have to somewhat defend vince mcmahon and wwe- they do now (since the benoit incident) have a "wellness" policy in place that covers everything from steroids to painkillers to legal bodybuilding supplements. i don't know the specifics of the policy; but many of their top stars are suspended quite frequently for violating. however, they didn't have any such program (to my knowledge) during brock's time with the company... so he was probably on something. i do know that ufc is much stricter about steroid and supplement use- so i'd seriously doubt it now.
  18. Darkness!
    18. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    also have to agree with BearDown-
    it gets old really quick when u dedictate ur whole life to any sport or fitness program- including the training for it; and it always seems to be the people who refuse to fully dedicate themselves to such a program that doubt u. It's very easy to sit there with a pad and pencil (a reporter) and talk about being an athlete... it's much harder to actually be one. So even though Brock could've handled that interview better (everybody knows he's wound a little tight- including the interviewer), I understand how he feels taking crap like that from some pencil necked reporter, who's (being from espn) prob. just trying to smear u and ur sport anyway, cuz that's the only attention espn gives mma.
  19. The Great White
    19. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    LB - I agree with you to a point, however, I totally disagree about the comment that Couture can't be cut up in his 40's without steroids. Couture was a 3 time Olympic alternate HW wrestler (88,92,96), after serving in the ARMY for 6 years. Then he immediately went to UFC in 97. My point is he has been in this kind of shape for over 20 years, been tested for years for steroids in Olympic and college levels. He has always been 190-220 pounds. He has never gotten immensily bigger. When you wrestle and fight for years you maintain shape without steroids. As far as Lesnar v. Couture wrestling - I think there is a vast difference in being a Olympic caliber wrestler and a college wrestler. Maybe not......
  20. Darkness!
    20. Posted by Darkness! Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Great White and LB#31-
    normally, I would almost always give an olympic wrestler the edge over a collegiate wrestler... but there (obviously) isn't much at all 'normal' about brock lesnar. For starters- he's a rich, famous professional athlete driving a chevy aveo (WTF?)
    But seriously- Brock was one of few collegiate wrestlers who easily could've gone to the olympics had he wanted to; but instead chose the fame and fortune of "pro" wrestling. I think Lesnar is equal to, if not superior to Couture in every aspect of this fight but experience. And his youth, speed, and overwhelming power will compensate for that. The only way brock loses is by getting overzealous and making a mistake, and randy's old a** being quick enough to capitalize on it...
  21. HAHA
    21. Posted by HAHA Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    yo Jay-,
    Thanks for puttin me on to WWE havin a wellness program
    i never knew of such
    and im glad vince is taken better care of his boyz
    i alos hear u dudes when u say he may jus be frustrated w/ people askin if he is on roids
    lesnar driving a chevy aveo HAHA
  22. Brian
    22. Posted by Brian Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Steroids get a bad rap in a certain sense. I know they are illegal but in all fairness they do not make you a better athlete. If you are on steroids will you all of the sudden be better in BJJ, NO. Would steroids make Kimbo Slice a better MMA fighter, abvsolutly not. Steroids improve your ability to train longer and harder so strength will increase and it aids in recovery from injury. Now, I have no doubt that Brock Lesner has done steroids in the past, and if he is doing them still he will get caught. State athletic commisions regulate this. I read a comment that he looks smaller than before, well thats obvious. He has a weight limit to reach now. He has to weigh 265 or he cant fight. During his WWE days, the bigger the better, but here he has to be able to make weight and cutting from 280 to 265 is a lot easier than a cut from his 300+ weight from WWE. The fight with Couture comes down to Randy's ability to stay away from Brocks right hand. If Couture is patient and can take the fight to the later rounds (4,5) he will have a better chance. Experience says a lot, Frank Mir submitted Brick in a minute and a half and Couture has gone the distance with Tim Silvia ( comparable weight to Brock, Tim was 6'8 and weighed at least 280 during the fight). Couture by decision. That's the only way you have a chance to see Randy v. Fedor. If Randy loses that fight will definately never happen.
  23. Dirty Sanchez
    23. Posted by Dirty Sanchez Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    Never count Randy out. Him being old is what was suppose to get him beat last time. Did anyone watch the "Fight Science" episode with Randy on it???? Doctors exact words were "You are a freak of nature". The acid in your muscles that create fatigue are suppose to increase with work out or muscular stress, Randys' actually decreases with muscular stress. The more he punched the dummy or choked someone his energy reserve grew. May be why he's still a bad a$$ for an "old guy".
  24. BearDown
    24. Posted by BearDown Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    Brian B......... Give this man a beer!!!! Thank you for actually knowing what you are talking about. Many people are so hung up on the steroid thing that they believe the Incredible Hulk really exists; all you have to do is take steroids. We have debated this issue before on a previous blog a few months back and you would not believe how uneducated people are about the subject. I agree 100%.
  25. The Great White
    25. Posted by The Great White Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    BearDown - Are you actually saying that given two people of exactly the same physical sature and training where one uses steroids and the other doesn't that it doesn't help? Does it make you a better athelete, maybe not, does it help you get bigger, stronger, and help you recover qucker therby helping you fight more often (which leads to a whole new level of advantage if you are an elite fighter), absolutely. All you have to do is take steroids, NO. But again, if all is equal, and every fighter trains the same and one is taking steroids, the one that is taking steroids has a distinct UNNATURAL advantage.

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