Giants Team Report

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With Nick Johnson(notes) signing with the Yankees, the Giants must find a Plan B.

Maybe Mark DeRosa(notes). Maybe Adam LaRoche(notes). Maybe another corner infielder.

But it won’t be Johnson, who was believed to be the preferred choice among many Giants officials to play first base. Johnson signed a one-year, $5.5 million deal with the Yankees, who plan to make him their designated hitter and No. 2 hitter—behind Derek Jeter(notes) and in front of Mark Teixeira(notes).

With the Giants, he would have been the first baseman and a No. 3, 4 or 5 hitter, a major addition to an anemic lineup.

Johnson broke into the majors as a Yankee and most recently played for Washington. His best year was 2006, when he hit .290 with 23 homers and 77 RBIs. But he’s injury-prone and a regular on the disabled list. He missed all of the 2007 season and all but 38 games in 2008.

Despite the drawbacks, the Giants were willing to take a chance with Johnson because he historically has a high on-base percentage (something the Giants as a team lack) and is considered above average defensively.

Now they must focus elsewhere. They reportedly offered DeRosa $12 million over two years, but DeRosa has been more heavily pursued by teams than Johnson because of his versatility and ample experience with playoff teams.

Unlike Johnson or LaRoche, DeRosa could play the outfield as well as be available as a corner infielder. He has the most experience at third base. If the Giants see him as an third baseman, they could move Pablo Sandoval(notes) to first to create a spot.

Or DeRosa could play left field.

Either way, both DeRosa and LaRoche are looking for a bigger contract than Johnson’s.

Then again, considering Johnson’s price tag, perhaps DeRosa and LaRoche shouldn’t shoot for the moon.

NOTES, QUOTES

• LF Fred Lewis’(notes) numbers in 2009 (four homers, 20 RBIs in 122 games) are the reason the Giants are looking for other options in left field. At the winter meetings, manager Bruce Bochy said it’s possible Eugenio Velez(notes) could play left and lead off, perhaps sharing time with Andres Torres(notes). But the Giants remain on the prowl for outside help in the outfield, too. OF/INF Mark DeRosa has been on their radar this winter.

• RHP Bobby Howry remains in the Giants’ sights. He joined the team as a free agent on Dec. 3, 2008, and GM Brian Sabean said he’d be interested in re-signing Howry—if the reliever is available later in the offseason—to complement RHP Sergio Romo(notes) in the relief corps. Howry, 36, had a 3.39 ERA in 63 outings, third most in the Giants bullpen. Howry originally was drafted by the Giants in 1994 but was traded as a minor-leaguer to the White Sox and broke in with Chicago in 1998.

• Former catcher Steve Decker, considered by the Giants as a big-league manager of the future, will manage Class AAA Fresno in 2010, getting promoted from Class AA Connecticut, where he led the team to the Eastern League finals. He previously managed with Class A San Jose and has a minor league record of 328-185. His hitting coach will be Ken Joyce, replacing Hensley Meulens, who was promoted to the parent club.

• C Eli Whiteside(notes), amid weeks of talk over who’ll be the opening-day catcher, is considered nothing more than a backup by the Giants. Then again, the team is pleased with his work as a reserve. He caught five of the Giants’ 18 shutouts, including LHP Jonathan Sanchez’s(notes) July 10 no-hitter. He started 33 games behind the plate and threw out eight of 28 potential base-stealers, 29 percent. He hit just .228.

• RHP Brian Wilson’s(notes) 2.74 ERA was lowest by a Giants closer since RHP Robb Nen’s 2.20 in 2002, the World Series year. It was Nen’s final season. Wilson appeared in a career-high 68 games. Of his 38 saves, eight required at least four outs, the most in the majors. Showing his effectiveness in longer outings, he posted a 0.84 ERA in those games.

By The Numbers:   22—Games won by the Giants when they scored three or fewer runs this year. The only other teams in the majors winning more games with so few runs were the Cardinals (25) and the Mariners (23). It speaks volumes about the Giants’ pitching. Their hitting, too.

Quote To Note:   “We’d hate to give up pitching unless it’s for a sure thing offensively.”—GM Brian Sabean, who repeatedly has said he wants to keep LHP Jonathan Sanchez, even when the Marlins are dangling 2B Dan Uggla(notes).

ROSTER REPORT

The Giants had a winning record after four consecutive losing seasons, and the next step is to contend for a division title. They have one of the deepest rotations in the majors but one of the weakest offenses despite the emergence of INF Pablo Sandoval.

Biggest Needs:   The Giants, last in the NL in walks and on-base percentage, 15th in homers and 14th in slugging percentage, need a major boost offensively. An improved 3-4-5 alignment—the season ended with Pablo Sandoval, Bengie Molina(notes) and Juan Uribe(notes), all free-swingers—is necessary. The Giants’ situational hitting was sub-par, and many hitters didn’t get bunt signs because they couldn’t be relied on to put one down.

Departures:   RHP Brad Penny(notes) (free agent, signed with Cardinals), RHP Justin Miller(notes) (free agent, signed minor league deal with Dodgers).

Free Agents:   C Bengie Molina, INF Juan Uribe, INF Rich Aurilia(notes), OF Randy Winn(notes), LHP Randy Johnson(notes), RHP Bobby Howry, LHP Noah Lowry(notes).

The biggest decision is whether to bring back Molina, the cleanup hitter the past three years. He’s 35, and the Giants have C Buster Posey(notes) waiting in the wings. It might work out if Molina agrees to a one-year deal. Uribe, who arrived last winter on a minor league contract, was a valuable addition and will cost more than his $1 million salary to be retained. Aurilia and Johnson might retire. Miller and Lowry became free agents after being outrighted off the 40-man roster.

Arbitration-eligible:   RHP Tim Lincecum(notes), RHP Brandon Medders(notes), LHP Jonathan Sanchez, RHP Brian Wilson.

Lincecum is due a major raise, perhaps breaking Jonathan Pabelbon’s record for highest salary for a pitcher eligible for arbitration for the first time ($6.25 million). The record for a hitter was Ryan Howard’s(notes) $10 million. The Giants might prefer to negotiate a long-term deal while trying to keep the 2010 salary down. The Giants want to keep Wilson and Sanchez, though Sanchez might be trade bait.

In Limbo:   As the Giants pursue a hitter or two, they’ll likely dangle pitching, including LHP Jonathan Sanchez. Teams might prefer RHP Matt Cain(notes), which would be a blockbuster, but the Giants are hesitant to break up the top end of their rotation.

Medical Watch:  

2B Freddy Sanchez(notes) (arthroscopic left knee surgery in September 2009) is expected to be fully recovered by spring training.

RHP Brandon Medders (arthroscopic left knee surgery in October 2009) is expected to be fully recovered by spring training.

Updated Dec 24, 3:11 am EST
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  1. Edward
    290. Posted by Edward Mon Dec 21 7:03pm EST

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    Its hard to have a forum about your team when some replies {287} are so lame and give ridiculous response of "Screw you all". This must be a Raider fan that just proves that the No Kid Left Behind Rule in school is failing!
  2. John
    289. Posted by John Sun Dec 20 11:11pm EST

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    I wouldn't waste the money on gas if I got free tickets and parking. Sabean runs this team like he's a Dodger. He doesn't care about the fans or building a winning team. All he cares about is lining his pockets and getting by. Kind of like a Liberal Politician.

    Until he's gone I won't spend a Chuckie Cheese token on the Giants, which is about as much as he'd spend to improve the team.
  3. Edward
    288. Posted by Edward Sat Dec 19 1:46am EST

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    One of the biggest problems I see is the fact Sebean has built this team with players except couple pitchers around players no other teams want. Other teams understanding talent see the Giants have very low tier players and most of them are way over paid so no trading possible.

    It is sad to watch ESPN Sports for a week and only mention of the Giants has been pitching and the fact that Bay stated he has no interest in signu=ing with the Giants.

    Every day most teams talked about except the Giants who it seems except for us Giant fans no one else cares about even enough to talk about on sports.

    If it wasn't for local talk no one would know we have a team here!
  4. Gonzo5150
    287. Posted by Gonzo5150 Fri Dec 18 11:29am EST

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    screw you all go giants, pitching is the biggest part of baseball , thats where the money goes!
  5. No thanks
    286. Posted by No thanks Fri Dec 18 10:58am EST

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    OlRailBird. If your theory was true, then why didn't the Giants make it to the playoffs last year? They did that several times with Bonds. You have to add Hitting to your tiresome equation of Pitching and defense up the middle.... that obviously doesn't get the job done when you're one of the worst hitting teams in the league. I'm not saying we need to hit 200 HR's, but getting guys who get on base, and others who have the ability to drive the ball is what the team needs.... i.e., guys who can hit doubles and HR's consistently.
  6. OlRailBird
    285. Posted by OlRailBird Fri Dec 18 3:29am EST

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    Robby Thompson circa 1989, I meant.

    That's why I'm OLrailbird. Senior moment. You know what I mean.

    Trade the cripples. Find some athletes at second and short.

    LF, RF, 1B and 3B are the power positions.
  7. OlRailBird
    284. Posted by OlRailBird Fri Dec 18 3:11am EST

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    Folks, baseball is simple -- pitching and defense up the middle. That's the "book."

    Sluggers are not really part of the central equation, except perhaps in the American League which, of course, is not really baseball, is it? IMHO, the AL shouldn't be allowed in the Series -- they play a different game.

    Catcher, short, second, center and the mound. Everything else is gravy. Point of fact: LF BONDS.
    Great left fielder but no championship (although they might have won against the Angels with a sensible manager. Never take the ball out of the hands of a pitcher throwing a shutout.)

    I am not defending Giants management -- I think they're incompetent. We are lucky to have what we have given the gross negligence demonstrated by the likes of B.S. and others. In spite of them, there is hope for next year -- assuming the PTB pay attention to this post.

    Posey has a great arm and is above average defensively. He can hit. There is talk of moving him to another position, but his best value to the team is behind the plate -- keep him there.

    Shortstop needs upgrading. Renteria is not a good defensive shortstop -- his range is gone.

    Who will play second? Freddie Sanchez? His wheels are suspect. Who cares if he hits?

    Center field is still a long term contract to Rowand. We'd prefer Willie Mays, but Rowand is a good defensive player who can occasionally connect for some power.

    Pitching is set, especially if Sanchez is not traded (3 quality starters and decent closer.)

    Forget power from these strategic positions if you care about winning. Search for power at the corners to complement defense up the middle. Trade Renteria and Sanchez for defense...

    As much as I like the Panda, he will never key a winning season playing the corners. Good teams get career batting years from those guys up the middle. Ask Uribe for details.

    Take a look at the stats on the middle guys the last time the Giants were in the Series, you'll see what I mean. When you get a little power from guys defending the middle, that's when you win.

    Renteria and Sanchez together don't equal one former AA Robbie Thompson circa 1997.
  8. Edward
    283. Posted by Edward Mon Dec 14 3:47pm EST

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    Giants alway say there is no truth to power hitters not coming to SF which the fans understand is the truth.
    ESPN just stated the Giants offered Bay a five year contract but Bay has stated he will not play in SF.

    Sebean needs to get out of his dream world that he is doing a good job because he sucks! Still can not believe they kept him but again this ownership doesn't seem to understand baseball in anyway.

    While most teams have made moves large and small here sits the Giants as usual doing nothing and hoping something falls in their hands. The big move is to wait for Johnson to make up his mind about retirement.Who cares because the last thing this team needs is a older pitcher that breaks down and not going to ever make agood relief pitcher.

    While the A's are making trades with the cubs our Giants are doing nothing like most years under Sebean.

    Last time we went through this Sebean's big move was to bring in a over paid center fielder that can't hit except in the batting cage where spends most of his time and a shortstop that doesn't have great range and also can't hit. Add left fielder Lewis that anyone can see can not play out field in the majors.

    Good players do not want to come to SF and play if they have other choices and the money is there.

    Sebean other than being fired now needs to use pitching and center field or shortstop in a major trade for a good power hitter and make sure he is under contract for few years so he won't leave.
  9. <i>boy707895</i>
    282. Posted by boy707895 Fri Dec 11 1:42pm EST

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    a shut up
  10. L
    281. Posted by L Mon Dec 7 4:40pm EST

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    Why does anyone care about this franchise?? The ownership group could care less about winning..Its all about the money and profits for this sorry team..

    Not caring about Penny or Uribe shows that this franchise just doesn't care about competing..

    This sorry excuse for a franchise is 0-56 and a lot more losing in the future..

    Why should anyone care or support this loser franchise???
  11. THE GREAT ONE
    280. Posted by THE GREAT ONE Mon Dec 7 2:19pm EST

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    You all have to realize, in today's world, its ALL about the money! No way will a slugger come to the city by the Bay and risk his numbers for a smaller paycheck. That's why Holiday and Bay said they have no interest in becoming a Giant. Both know that their offensive numbers will go down in SF. Which could hurt their chances of a bigger paycheck later on down theline. Now with that all being said, there is One player out there, who, if I were Sabean, I would go all out to trade for. That is Adrian Gonzalez of the Padres. He has proven he can smash balls at AT&T park. And he's due to only make 6.25 million next year. Without trading Cain or packaging Posey, I would trade half the farm system for gonzalez. This guy is a stud!!! And with him and Sandoval in the line up, the Giants have up-graded their offensive line up 100%. And you would still have Lincecum and Cain as your 1-2 starters!! Unfortunately, Sabean is a dumbass and so is the front office of the Giants. I bet that Nick Johnson is considered a stud to them!!
  12. L
    279. Posted by L Sat Dec 5 6:24pm EST

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    Unless some major changes happen between now and the season start, this team will not win 80 games again..You can't expect the pitching to be as good as last year and the offense without Uribe is worse if thats possible..

    Without Uribe and Molina in the lineup, if they are not replaced by some experienced hitters, this team could look at offensive futility records this year..

    At least no one has expectations that this team will do anything..Another year of enjoying the park and good pitching, with boring and unproductive offense..76-86 coming..
  13. L
    278. Posted by L Sat Dec 5 6:18pm EST

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    Why not sign Uribe..He was the second best hitter on the team especially after the all star break..So just make the weak spot that much weaker..I love the park, but this team is unwatchable other than when Tim pitches..

    No wonder this franchise has never won squat!!
  14. John
    277. Posted by John Thu Dec 3 6:57pm EST

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    Uh, doesn't "second tier" mean seconds? Sounds like B.S. shops at KMart to me.

    Look's like Sabean is a "good enough" type of GM in a multi million dollar corporation. Would that make you warm and fuzzy? Here's to another year of "unrealistic" hopes and dreams for Giant fans. Brought to you by someone that will only talk to someone that he THINKS may want to talk to him. MY GOD SABEAN, YOU ARE THE WORST PISS-POOR EXCUSE OF A LAZY FAT A$$ GM I'VE EVER SEEN, next to Al Davis, that is.
  15. <i>gillieart</i>
    276. Posted by gillieart Thu Dec 3 1:18pm EST

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    guess the Giants fans get another second-tier team.
    Ho Hum...
  16. MICHAEL M
    275. Posted by MICHAEL M Thu Dec 3 11:57am EST

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    hey Hammer- Garko never was given a chance- how many at bats did he get?
  17. MICHAEL M
    274. Posted by MICHAEL M Thu Dec 3 11:54am EST

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    Howry- Mr. Homerun is not needed anymore
  18. <i>dtf24</i>
    273. Posted by dtf24 Thu Dec 3 2:44am EST

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    Second tier players get second tier results.
  19. Roderick F
    272. Posted by Roderick F Sun Nov 29 12:57am EST

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    I must say I enjoyed watching the Giants this year. First time in I do not know when.
  20. tom
    271. Posted by tom Fri Nov 27 9:57am EST

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    use Bob Howry more and keep him
  21. <i>firesabean23</i>
    270. Posted by firesabean23 Tue Nov 24 9:08pm EST

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    Fire sabean !
  22. Andr
    269. Posted by Andr Wed Nov 18 6:24am EST

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    get bib fortuna!!!!
  23. Frank Linzy
    268. Posted by Frank Linzy Tue Nov 17 9:03pm EST

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    I'm excited about the 2010 Giants offense because of the following trendline:

    640 runs in 2008.
    657 runs in 2009.
    674 runs in 2010???
  24. J.
    267. Posted by J. Fri Nov 13 12:48pm EST

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    Why not trade RoLand for Mr. Temper Tantrum? Mr. TT is a better hitter. Maybe a change of atmosphere will help. Less money........... Was Angel caught in a situation where he HAD to use some self defense or just another creep with a gun ???? I'm still willing to bet the G's have a WORSE record next year with Boche as the missmanager......... Odds ???
  25. No patients left
    266. Posted by No patients left Mon Nov 9 12:23pm EST

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    If the giants as a team and front office were on the stock market it would be 1929 all over again !! But they have a nice place to play, deception rules !!
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