Yanks’ mound meetings slow Series, give MLB pause

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PHILADELPHIA (AP)—All those meetings on the mound called by catcher Jorge Posada(notes) and the New York Yankees are giving Major League Baseball pause, too.

Posada and pals visited pitcher CC Sabathia(notes) eight times—in a single inning — on Sunday night, grinding Game 4 of the World Series to a standstill. Agitated Phillies fans booed each trip.

MLB vice president of umpiring Mike Port said frequent mound meetings by all teams likely would be discussed by baseball officials this offseason.

“It would fall under the province of pace of game,” Port said before the Yankees beat Philadelphia 7-4 to take a 3-1 Series lead.

Baseball has tried speed-up rules and guidelines in recent years, with varying results. Boston closer Jonathan Papelbon(notes) was fined a few times this season and even had a ball called on him for taking too long to pitch. Hitters are encouraged to stay in the batter’s box.

One trip to the mound is allowed per inning—by a manager or coach—before a pitcher must be pulled. There is no limit, however, on players-only meetings.

The Yankees held six in the first inning of Game 4. Then came eight more— four alone with Jayson Werth(notes) hitting—in the fifth. Damaso Marte(notes) relieved Sabathia in the seventh. After two pitches, Posada made the 60-foot, 6-inch trudge yet again.

Sabathia wound up striking out Werth with two runners on. Perhaps the Phillies could have used a meeting to figure out who covers third base if Johnny Damon(notes) steals second against an overshifted infield.

“It’s just part of the game,” Posada said. “We want to talk with each other so we know what we’re doing.”

Plate umpire Brian Gorman clapped his hands while Posada and Andy Pettitte(notes) met in Game 3, trying to hurry them along. The PA system at Citizens Bank Park played “Fly Like an Eagle” by the Steve Miller Band—the song starts out “Time keeps on slippin’, slippin’, slippin’ into the future”—when Posada and Sabathia talked.

The World Series opener lasted 3 hours, 27 minutes. The next three games all took exactly 3:25.

Yankees pitcher A.J. Burnett(notes) and personal catcher Jose Molina(notes) visited seven times during an inning in the AL championship series. New York pitching coach Dave Eiland made no apology.

“Every pitch is a big pitch this time of year. Seriously. You want to make sure everything’s covered,” Eiland said Sunday night.

As for making a rule limiting catchers’ trips to the mound, Eiland scoffed.

“No, don’t take three minutes between innings. You know how many times a pitcher is standing on the mound waiting for the umpire’s call to throw the first pitch?” he said.

“You can’t take away the beauty of the game,” Eiland said. “I know fans get upset and I know Major League Baseball may get upset with that. But that’s part of the game. There’s no rules against it, and I don’t see any rules changing for that. That would be ridiculous.”

Sabathia had no problem with the confabs, either.

“We were just trying to make sure we were on the right page, getting the pitches right, whatever it takes. There’s really no time limit on the game,” he said.

The Yankees’ mound visits throughout the postseason can serve another purpose. In a sport that’s not supposed to have timeouts, it can help slow opposing hitters.

“Sometimes it’s a momentum-breaker,” Eiland said. “If we feel like they have the momentum we kind of want to take a little momentum timeout and stop it and regroup, and I want to make sure the pitcher’s mind is right. So a lot of things go into it.”

Added Yankees manager Joe Girardi: “There’s a lot of situations.”

“Sometimes it’s easier to go talk about what you want to do as opposed to putting down signs and then keep shaking,” he said before Game 5 Monday night.

Phillies outfielder Shane Victorino(notes) dismissed speculation that the Yankees held so many meetings because Philadelphia was swiping their signals.

“Obviously,” he said, “if we’re stealing signs we would be doing better than what we’re doing right now.”

Actor Robert Wuhl found it all amusing.

Wuhl portrayed coach Larry Hockett in the movie “Bull Durham” and made a much-quoted trip to the mound when the guys got stuck on what to get a teammate and his bride for their wedding. “Candlesticks always make a nice gift, and maybe you could find out where she’s registered … maybe a place setting, or a silverware pattern. OK? Let’s get two,” Hockett said.

Wuhl was behind the backstop watching the Yankees take batting practice before Game 5. He’d also noticed New York’s many meetings.

“Here’s what I don’t get in baseball,” Wuhl said. “You have a Korean pitcher, a Dominican catcher, a first baseman from French Canada and a third baseman from Mississippi, and they can’t understand each other already. Then they cover their mouths with their gloves. Then the catcher puts down one finger for fastball. What was that all about?”

AP Baseball Writers Mike Fitzpatrick and Ronald Blum contributed to this report.

Updated Nov 2, 8:01 pm EST
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  1. Lavina B
    93. Posted by Lavina B Thu Nov 5 12:08am EST

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    How much money does each player get for the World Series??
  2. Nico
    92. Posted by Nico Tue Nov 3 3:22pm EST

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    Ridiculous article. THIS IS ALL PART OF THE GAME WE ENJOY. What is NOT part of the game are the extneded TV time outs for commercials. The players are trying to create the best game they possible can and win it for their teams. The TV stations are just putting in as many commercials as possible. I was at an ALCS game and you would just sit there watching players standing around for 2, 3, 4 minutes at a time waiting for the obvious commercial breaks to end. Deal with the real issue. Broadcast the game as it should be played. (ex. Soccer matches aren't stopped 20 times during a half, they are run commercial free until half time)
  3. WILLIAM T A
    91. Posted by WILLIAM T A Tue Nov 3 3:21pm EST

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    All you young squirts sure can make a noise over nothing! And as to Yankee haters, you only have to remember attending a double-header at Shibe Park one Saturday in 193? when Lazzerri outdid himself with (I think) FIVE homeruns to help them beat the A's 21 to 1 and 10 to nothing. That was why this young fellow learned to really hate them. As long as they are going to be able to buy winners, we Yankee-haters can continue to enjoy seeing them lose. At least we are no longer the Phutile Phils!
  4. Pete
    90. Posted by Pete Tue Nov 3 3:11pm EST

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    I've never seen anything like that before, Posada running back and forth so many times for a single batter and inning. Maybe the Philly batters should call time in between every pitch and do some stretches just to make sure any kinks are worked out. What a weird, entitled bunch of players, those Yankees.
  5. Dave H
    89. Posted by Dave H Tue Nov 3 2:33pm EST

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    Considering all the money these players get paid, shouldnt they know what they're doing?? Just a stall tactic, bores the heck out of me but it works...Never have been a NY fan
  6. ORRELL E
    88. Posted by ORRELL E Tue Nov 3 2:20pm EST

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    If you butt holes think the mound visits make the games too long, don't watch it. This is the World Series and I have enjoyed every game.
  7. mickey
    87. Posted by mickey Tue Nov 3 2:11pm EST

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    Lighten up...get a hot-dog or peanuts...enjoy the crowd...it's the World Series...chill out; life is fast enough...
  8. Kevin
    86. Posted by Kevin Tue Nov 3 2:01pm EST

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    how can any YANKEE'S fan talk about our bullpen, when look at yours its....gave up runs in game 1, almost gave up game 4 and gave up one or two in game 5....one word....joba
  9. tedjo
    85. Posted by tedjo Tue Nov 3 2:01pm EST

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    i hear u gile. all that yankees/steinbrenner money goes a long way don't it?
  10. Kevin
    84. Posted by Kevin Tue Nov 3 1:58pm EST

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    If the phillies were stealing signs dont you think they would have hit better you idiots
  11. RP8695
    83. Posted by RP8695 Tue Nov 3 1:57pm EST

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    The rule should be changed. There must be a limit on how many times a ctacher can visit the mound. People at the ballpark are not paying to watch Posada run back and forth.
  12. grinny
    82. Posted by grinny Tue Nov 3 1:55pm EST

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    Cmon people. Cut the Yankees some slack. There's a lot of things they need to discuss. Here are the 8 topics they covered during Werth's at-bat:

    1. How much money they need to throw at Chase Utley to play for them.
    2. Which stripper or cougar should A-rod go for after eventual breakup with Kate.
    3. Should we start CC for each of the rest of the World Series' games to get bang for the buck on his contract?
    4. Where to find the good 'roids?
    5. Should we bean Werth to get back for all those obviously unintentional beans on A-rod?
    6. Did you hear about Joba's mom?
    7. What did you have for lunch?
    8. How many times to visit the mound in the next at-bat?
  13. CubFan4ever
    81. Posted by CubFan4ever Tue Nov 3 1:43pm EST

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    What is this thing you talk about? A World Series"?
  14. JEFFREYA
    80. Posted by JEFFREYA Tue Nov 3 1:43pm EST

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    well if the phillie bp players werent stealing signs then this wouldnt be a problem
  15. D.A. Thorndike
    79. Posted by D.A. Thorndike Tue Nov 3 1:39pm EST

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    I have seen the Yankees use excessive mound visits all year to take the momentum away from opposing hitters. This is not a new thing they are doing. MLB should have cracked down earlier in the season- but it's the Yankees and biased MLB would never do anything to hurt thier favorite team. That said, it really does fall in the "pace of the game" rule, and it seems they only care to enforce it against any team not called the Yankees.
  16. JAY
    78. Posted by JAY Tue Nov 3 1:38pm EST

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    There is no game clock or time limit in baseball. So what?
  17. victor
    77. Posted by victor Tue Nov 3 1:31pm EST

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    If the Phillies are stealing signs with a camera, then how did they have the best road record in all of baseball?
  18. D.A. Thorndike
    76. Posted by D.A. Thorndike Tue Nov 3 1:31pm EST

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    If I were the Phillies I would throw a pitch at Posada's head the next time he does this and send a message for him that this will not be tolerated anymore. The Phillies need to man up and take care of this themselves. They are letting the Yanks walk all over them and manipulate the game.
  19. talman
    75. Posted by talman Tue Nov 3 1:30pm EST

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    I don't think it give the Yankees any advantage to make 10,000 trips to the mound an inning, it just makes the games slow and boring for the fans.
  20. JohnnyBlue
    73. Posted by JohnnyBlue Tue Nov 3 12:59pm EST

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    The Frilly bullpen is slowing down these games. If they just got some outs without giving up hit after hit and run after run, these games would be over a lot faster. And Frilly fans would have healthier hearts.
  21. JohnnyBlue
    72. Posted by JohnnyBlue Tue Nov 3 12:43pm EST

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    If its not against the rules, and its effective, why doesn't the Philly bullpen give it a try?
  22. Eck
    71. Posted by Eck Tue Nov 3 10:49am EST

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    the yankees are the problem
  23. TJO
    70. Posted by TJO Tue Nov 3 10:04am EST

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    I thought there was a rule to quicken the pace of the game against these mound meetings? Or is that only in the regular season. They need to limit it, games are getting unbearably long, regular season games are nearly half as long.
  24. Chris
    69. Posted by Chris Tue Nov 3 9:47am EST

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    I was watching the game wondering how many times jeter and posada were going to visit the mound each game. They go out there seems almost every pitch glad somebody wrote how the yanks are using this to change the pace of the game. Everytime the phils get on a roll here comes posada running out to the mound and even jeter does it. The phils have done none of that. They do need to make it a rule because I am tired of watching every innning when the phils are batting for an extra 5 minutes because of all of the mound visits. People are saying its a part of the game quit complaining. Well visiting the mound 10 to 15 times an inning because you don't know what you are doing is not a part of the game. All the phils can do is to get a big lead in game 6 and do it to them every pitch to screw with them.
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