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The Barry Bonds Job Watch question has always been a simple one: Should your team consider signing the most controversial man in sports? 

Sadly, in light of David Ortiz's wrist injury, many Red Sox blogs jumped the gun without the Stew even asking first. (Yes, you now need my permission to write anything Bonds-related.)

Anyway, to present a different take, I requested that Camp Tiger Claw, one of the impresarios at the always entertaining Walkoff Walk and a noted Red Sox fan, weigh in with something different from the usual paint by numbers argument.

Here's what he came up with:  

When the news about the extent of David Ortiz's wrist injury came across the wire, it wasn't hard to imagine him missing significantly more time than the projected one month.

A quick glance over the roster and at the minors doesn't turn up anyone capable of filling the designated hitter role for an entire season. If the news about Papi does trend towards the worst — out for the season? — then the Red Sox become one of those teams that HAS to entertain the idea of signing Barry Bonds.

Now, originally this was going to be a column about all the reasons they should bring him on board. However, the idea was already floated on numerous sites on Tuesday afternoon.

This is a slightly different column for two reasons:

1) I have no interest in reiterating points made by other writers.

2) I also — and more importantly — have no interest in reading anymore of the puritanical nonsense that commenters on yesterday's articles and readers of the "Barry Bonds Job Watch" have been using to explain why they don't want Barry Bonds on their team.

Not surprisingly, Eric Wilbur's Boston.com blog on the topic seemed to elicit the most reaction of all the Bonds speculation yesterday and we will use it to limit our sample size.

Also not surprisingly, nearly every anti-Barry screed was animal crackerz (a.k.a. bananas).

(The following are actual arguments from Boston.com readers ... all spelling errors are SIC.)

The day Barry Bonds dons a Red Sox jersey and steps to the plate is the day the Tampa Bay Rays have their newest fan — and the Red Sox one fewer. I'm sure I wouldn't be alone, either.

It's utterly preposterous. Just the thought of it makes me want to puke.

That'll show em! The organization will never, ever recover from you leaving the fold. And, hey buddy, when you hurl, try not to hit that gorgeous new Jacoby Ellsbury afghan your wife just knitted, will ya?

NO. NO. NO. NO. It is the equivilent of selling your sole to the devil. Win at at all costs, but not that far. Don't do it Theo. Please don't do it.

You can't sell that sole to the devil! What am I going to cook for dinner? Contradicting yourself in a single sentence is an impressive skill, but it doesn't put food on the table.

Your stories suck ... I'm sorry, what I meant to say is you and your stories really suck.

1. Barry says he would never play for the Red Sox because the Red Sox organization and the city of Boston is prejiduce.

2. You are an idiot who will say anything just so people pay attention to you.

3. Boy, I really hate your stories.

4. Even if he hit home runs in every at bat, I would not want a A**H** like him playing for us.

I agree. Negativity is for sucky jerks. And remember this kid? He was a jerk, too.

No, absolutely not. Please keep Barry Bonds as far away from baseball as possible, and even farther away from the Red Sox.

If you sign Barry, you might as well take a shotgun and kill the season dead.

This one is the most typical. The specter of Barry as "boogeyman" looms so large for the casual baseball fan that just having him near your team is tantamount to throwing away the season. Not for any concrete reason, mind you. Just because he's Barry.

I'm certainly not the first writer to ever suggest that he's a convenient scapegoat. That he's a receptacle for a bunch of lopsided anger towards baseball that really could be spread evenly amongst even — gasp! — your favorite player.

But to see it play out in the lightly moderated comment box of your hometown newspaper is to bring it back into sharp focus. My team might need a strong left-handed bat, not your preaching as the lineup crashes before my eyes.

Luckily, one of the more rational Boston.com readers asked yesterday, "Hey New England, how'd Randy Moss work out for you?"

To a Red Sox fan with even a cursory knowledge of how the organization is run, the irony here is not lost. Theo Epstein runs a culture of numbers and Boston is less likely than any team in baseball to be swayed by arguments of attitude over aptitude; of "feelings" over stats.

To believe otherwise is to rebuke the success this organization has had over the past five years. That's exactly what any "fan" is doing by dismissing a Bonds signing as out of hand.

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  1. Rob Iracane
    1. Posted by Rob Iracane Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    Boston.com commenters are awful! I prefer the enlightened souls who comment on Yahoo blogs.
  2. Billy Mahone
    2. Posted by Billy Mahone Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    Bonds never took roids... he just naturally became a true bubblehead,...well from the feet up...actually a bubblebody... anyways.. u get the point
  3. The World Famous Butt Pirate
    3. Posted by The World Famous Butt Pirate Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    Lulz at Big Poopie, that tub of lard can't withstand the intense physical demands of DHing.
    As for Barry, he won't be hired because the owners are in collusion against him. Maybe they should try Sosa...more lulz!
  4. Mickey D.
    4. Posted by Mickey D. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    Well, we (the Red Sox) are already YankeesLite, so we might as well become the new Evil Empire and sign Barry. I hate him as much as the next guy does, but guess what, he can still hit. And he can take a walk like no one in history. Put him in front of Manny, and Manny's RBI number go back through the roof.
    Plus if the Sox sign Barry, maybe we could get rid of all those annoying Red Sox "fans" who only started liking the team since 2003ish. I'd estimate about half of The Nation is made up of these people.
    C'mon Theo... get signing!
  5. pedro_kz
    5. Posted by pedro_kz Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:05 pm EDT

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    Basabal ben berry Goo ta me, we be hitta da basabal hard lonG berry Goo foo us ta yoo
  6. Dewey
    6. Posted by Dewey Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    I think you overestimate how much the Sox front office is a "culture of numbers." There's no doubt that stats are the primary factor in their thinking, but they seem to have gone out of their way to get, and keep, players who are good for the clubhouse (Sean Casey, Tek), and have occasionally gotten rid of good players who were clubhouse poison (Nomar). That's not to say that's the only reason they made the moves they did with those players, but it's clearly a factor. The Sox front office definitely thinks about the clubhouse, and I can't imagine they'd want to turn what's already a media fishbowl into an international feeding frenzy.
  7. eight inches
    7. Posted by eight inches Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:37 pm EDT

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    Duk, Duk, Duk; Why do you and other so called sports writers continue to push the idea of Bonds returning to baseball to play for some team that loses a player to injury? READ MY LIPS! The baseball season is into it's 3rd month and no one has signed Bonds!! Why? Because he's POISON in the clubhouse, not to mention he's been accused of CHEATING IN BASEBALL!!N Who wants that on their team?
  8. Adam H
    8. Posted by Adam H Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:31 pm EDT

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    i can't believe you pulled out a matt christopher "the kid who only hit homers" reference! that's still one of my all-time favorite books, although i haven't read it since i was a kid. gonna have to dig it back up one of these days.
  9. dan m
    9. Posted by dan m Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    what is with all the barry haters. He still has to have good vision to hit homers even if he is doing steroids. I think the redsox should sign anyone that would help out the team. If barry isnt a guy to help out this team then dont sign him. But with ortiz out i believe redsox should give barry a shot
  10. Burlingamer
    10. Posted by Burlingamer Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Bonds would be a perfect fit for Boston. He can still rake. Come on, Theo, step up to the plate before Jason goes into a slump and the Yankees grab him. This is year 8 of the curse of the Giambino. Don't let the evil emipire off the hook.
  11. Oiboiboi
    11. Posted by Oiboiboi Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:45 pm EDT

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    This blog is boring.
  12. Benny
    12. Posted by Benny Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Ironically... it's not just the fans it's the owners and politicians. It is simply just a game. It was NOT illegal for a long time and numerous amounts of players have used it. Canseco can go claiming Ripken Jr. and Gwynn took steroids and the media would eat it up. My friends and family are all sick of it and I am too. Let's just be rational and bring any player back and have them teach the younger ones to play. No need to attack anymore. It's all in the past. We cannot dwell so deeply in it.
  13. azazeal_01
    13. Posted by azazeal_01 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:00 pm EDT

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    I don't hate Bonds. I don't care about steroid usage in the past. I care about it going forward. Bonds public persona is that of an arrogant, ego-maniac. I don't know anything else, but I am not going to judge him based on what the slanted media has to say about him. Redsox will do what is best for the team in a monetary manner. They want to win, then they will find someone to step into Ortiz' shoes. Period. Fans that proclaim they will never go to a red sox game with Bonds on the team, in most instances, are fooling themselves. Folks will continue to attend... so they can boo and belittle Barry Bonds from the stands. There will be those that will cheer him as well.
    I don't have much of an issue with what Bonds may have done in the past. I have problems with congressional hearings being called over steroid usage in baseball. I have a problem with the government involving themselves with professional sports in any manner. That right there is a far bigger issue than Barry Bonds "cheating" in baseball. Steroids by the way are not some wonder drug that will turn a crappy baseball player into the sort of player bonds is. He was hall of fame bound long before his supposed, and I say that because it has not been proven as of yet, steroid usage.
  14. savage
    14. Posted by savage Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    boston would be foolish not to atleast consider signing or just signing barry bonds, this is baseball not all the days of our lives if you want feelings go look at the oprah show you unreal baseball fans
  15. Reggae Rob
    15. Posted by Reggae Rob Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:35 pm EDT

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    Would you rather sign Barry, or make a trade for Richie Sexson? At least Bonds would draw walks and give Manny an extra RBI opportunity every time he followed Barry to the plate.
  16. SportsFan
    16. Posted by SportsFan Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    I can't think of another team than the Red Sox that I would like to see get cancer (aka Barry Bonds)
  17. JP
    17. Posted by JP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    Bill James (www.billjamesonline.com) doesn't think it'd be good for any team to sign Bonds at this point in his career (and probably even more so at this point in the season, more than 1/3rd of the way through), so Theo Epstein will probably take his advice and look elsewhere to solve the problem of Ortiz's absence.
    Maybe the whole Bonds-thing will change after Friday's court hearing (not likely, but remotely possible).
  18. HIC-SOX
    18. Posted by HIC-SOX Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:34 pm EDT

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    Sign him up for this season only. Yes he took steroids but so did half of the Yankees team. If the Redsox can get a few homers and walks, he would be a positive fixture for the year.
  19. ScottyD
    19. Posted by ScottyD Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:10 pm EDT

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    Barry Bonds will never play baseball again.
  20. Andrew S
    20. Posted by Andrew S Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    From another perspective, I am a Bonds fan and not so much of the Bo Sox. That being said, I am interested to see how the baseball world will react when Bonds starts to kill it again. Any fan who doesn't want to see #25 on their team obviously does not want their team to get better. Ask the players on any team, and they would welcome him with open arms.
  21. Andrew S
    21. Posted by Andrew S Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    From another perspective, I am a Bonds fan and not so much of the Bo Sox. That being said, I am interested to see how the baseball world will react when Bonds starts to kill it again. Any fan who doesn't want to see #25 on their team obviously does not want their team to get better. Ask the players on any team, and they would welcome him with open arms.
  22. Chuck U. Farley
    22. Posted by Chuck U. Farley Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:15 pm EDT

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    Juice or no Juice, Barry is among the top 3 run producers in the MLB today. Once the balls start leaving the park, the traditionalist sentiment will be smothered by 105-win season and subsequent pennant talk.
    Get over your sanctimony. Gaylord Perry and Joe Niekro were admitted cheats - and they are bronzed in Cooperstown. This is entertainment, folks. As Barry himself said, "You're missing a great show. You're just missing it."
  23. objectively
    23. Posted by objectively Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    No chance of that happening. let yankees do it. they don't seem to mind juice.
  24. mikey
    24. Posted by mikey Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

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    Yeah Barry, Boston is prejudiced, the same as any other American city, the same as any other country on earth also, if you think different then go check it out, prejudice wasnt invented in Boston or America..But yeah, stay away Barry Bonds, you would hate to be accepted the same as Ortiz, or KG, Randy Moss, or Paul Pierce..The spygate thing was enough for us to deal with here, we dont need any more problems
  25. Vincent A
    25. Posted by Vincent A Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:36 pm EDT

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    In all honesty, speaking objectively: Bonds still has a lot of power, he still can hit, roids or no roids. And yes, his OBP, his ability to take a walk, and his mere presence in a lineup is significant. Or pitchers will just start pitching around Manny. Which as a Yankees fan, sits fine with me. As a Manny Ramirez fantasy owner, that would kinda suck a bit. But from an objective standpoint, it wouldn't be a bad move for the lineup. Team morale might be a whole other thing, having to contend with such a diva in the locker room.

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