A-Gon is filthy.
Any other line up, any other park.....imagine the possibilites.

Adrian's time will come, believe me. He's just getting started. But if the Pads trade him AND Peavy, then you might as well nuke Petco Park because we'll have nothing. Eyebleaf, keep dreaming, it won't happen.

Luke Scott.
Ask Roy Halladay about him, though.

he needs a recodnisable home run call ... something like " AND THATS AN A-BOMB FOR A-GON " oh wait that is a-rods [profane]ty call in nyc ... maybe he needs to be on a team near espn hq so they can see him once. maybe if he snuck into a boston yankees game.

Name another left handed with his kind of opposite field power. Better glove than Puljos, doesn't strike out like Howard. The kind of player you build a line up around.
If Pads trade Peavy, Gonzalez walks when contract is up, if he isn't traded.

Not to the same extent as Gonzalez, but I'd say Halladay's publicity is not in line with his extraordinary talent. Pitching north of the border half the time will do that to you, though. But man, that guy is consistently great. And when he's not great, he's still good!

Adrian Gonzalez is the complete 1B--an extraordinary player. I'd still take Pujols over him, but Adrian is closing the gap fast.

Maybe I'm biased, but it pains me to know that people who call themselves baseball fans don't know who Roy Halladay is.

I'd say Yadier Molina, has started doing it with the bat, although not as of late in a bit of a slump, but is leading the ballots in voting finally, and is the best defensive catcher in the game. and Gonzalez and Pujols have won gold gloves so i would say defensively theyre equals

Roy Halladay, get him every year in fantasy baseball in the second round like clockwork and pays off too

too bad he's over shadowed by that cheating 'M-F'er Manny huh?

Your comment on Gonzales having a 1.048 OPS is a fanasty. The formula is wrong . A perfect OPS can only be 1.000. Ruth's lifetime OPS was .221, probably the best ever. That is because SA is also improperly formulated. And unfortunately most baseball statiastics are flawed --- including BA --- which can not even be formulated.

What sort of drugs are you on, Roger?

a-gon has one of the sweetest swings i have seen

He's the Corey Dillon of baseball, good player on a crappy team.

What is the correct formula then roger? are you trying to incorporate park factor and other items that differ from player to player, plate appearance to plate appearance?

Meximullet.

why is he not in the same category as pujols and howard? Pujols is possibly ahead of him....but howard? a-gon has better defense, and more homers and that is all howard has....and adrian is batting behind eckstein and ahead of kouzmanoff/headley..........not many guys getting on ahead of him to drive in and nobody behind him to prevent the pitcher from walking him.....and yet he leads the majors in HR

I actually think Halladay is the best comparison so far. I'd say that it's more likely the casual fan has heard the name Roy Halladay as opposed to Adrian Gonzalez, but again Halladay is probably the best pitcher in the AL and has been at or near the top for several seasons now, and not enough people know that. Gonzalez hasn't had that kind of career yet, but I think Adrian can average 35-40 homers over the next 6-8 seasons, even in Petco... Possibly 45+ somewhere else

You mentioned one yourself. Raul Ibanez. A second one? Check the NL batting leader recently. It may have changed int he last couple days, but he has to be still close and he was leading within the past week. Juan Pierre. Pierre is a lifetime .300 hitter.

No ,spin doctor, I am not into cybermetrics --- just simple math. If a player has a home run in 4 at-bats --- a 1.000 SA, right ? But what if he has 4 bunt singles in 4 at-bats --- still a 1.000 SA ???. Take a look at Babe Ruth's record ---a .6897 SA. Supposedly the highest career SA ever ! Not hardly. Ruth had 5,793 total bases from 2,873 hits and 8,399 at-bats. It took both hits and at-bats to get those bases but the formula is TB / AB, not ignoring the total base or at-bats, but completely ignoring the hits involved. Hits are actually the primary source of bases; at-bats are secondary. We know he had 2,873 hits and 5,793 bases in 8,399 at-bats. But a correct SA has to be calculated by a formula that include all three components --- hits, bases and at-bats, not just bases and at-bats. The only correct SA to satisfy all three components is .50409. 5,793 bases / 2873 hits, divided by 4 equals .5040898016 SA. 5040898016 SA x .34206453149 "BA" equals .17243124181 base hitting proficiency; x 33,596 bases possible from at-bats equals 5,79299999984 bases negotiated. Ruth negotiated 5,793 bases reflected by a slugging average of .504 and a " batting average" of .342 in 8,399 at-bats. P.S. There is no such thing as a batting average, It can't be formulated. Additionally, since SA is flawed any other stats involving the traditional SA, such as OPS and ISO, to name a couple, are also flawed.

Roger totally wins for the most pointless argument of the day.