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Since entering the league in 1998, the Tampa Bay Rays have played 1,617 regular season games, called four different men "manager" and attracted some large crowds to Tropicana Field (at least when the Red Sox and Yankees were in town.) They've had everyone from Wade Boggs to Jose Canseco on their roster and you might have even seen them play in person in your neck of the woods. Heck, even their uniforms were licensed by Major League Baseball and you could have found their web page on MLB.com. All signs suggested they were a professional baseball team.

Yet I'm going to say that it wasn't until today's brawl with the Yankees in St. Petersburg that the Rays became a REAL, LIVE major league team.

Until Shelley Duncan slid into Akinori Iwamura with his spikes high, the Rays were just an afterthought ... a throwaway series on your team's pocket schedule.

And until Jonny Gomes came to Iwamura's defense by releasing his inner-Merriman and tackling Duncan, the Rays were a no-contest 30th out of 30 teams, a franchise that not even the locals took seriously.

All of that's changed now. You don't fight fierce against the sport's spotlight franchise one day and then go toe-to-toe with them a few days later and not walk away without a great deal of respect.

Already the Rays occupied a spot as one of the up-and-coming teams in baseball, but now that they've picked a fight with the school bully, they can strut around with a little more cred. I'm already looking at them in a different light. 

And considering that Duncan was the aggressor today (B.J. Upton called the play "flat out dirty") the bully has taken a bit of notice. It's time to take Tampa more seriously.

(For those of you saying "What about the Pedro Martinez-Gerald Williams fight in 2000 or the other fights the Red Sox-Rays have had over the years?" I think the Rays' improved status changes things a little bit.)

The Rays and the Yankees play twice more this spring and then 18 times during the regular season, so it's hard to imagine the bad blood between the two teams dying down any time soon. Finally, the Rays have a rivalry that doesn't involve fighting the Marlins for fan indifference. They've also attracted the attention of the larger baseball world. 

So welcome to bigs, Tampa Bay.

Sure took you long enough. 

(As an aside, why couldn't this have happened to the Yankees one day later? Wouldn't it have been great to see if Billy Crystal would have left the bench with fists flying?)

• Yankees, Rays brawl in Florida / Newsday
• Rays: Duncan play "flat-out" dirty / Rays Report
• Duncan on pace to be most hated Yankee ever? / Surviving Grady

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  1. pink princess
    1. Posted by pink princess Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:57 pm EDT

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    WOW! They be fighting like WWE Smackdown! I gotta see this!
  2. shootyzgrv82_2000
    2. Posted by shootyzgrv82_2000 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    Good, I am glad the Rays stood up to these bullies! I hope Hank Steinbrenner sharted in hi spants when this unfolded! I got some respect for the Rays!
  3. joe i
    3. Posted by joe i Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    its good to see the rays have some swagger even if it is spring training hope this carries onn to the regular season beat the crap out of the red sux and the spankees in one year would be nice .. very nice !!! go rays
  4. cs
    4. Posted by cs Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Glad to see the Rays stand up to the big bad bullies. The Yanks would never pull this bull$hit when Torre was manager. Yhe Yanks are back to being the Bronx Zoo
  5. joe i
    5. Posted by joe i Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    by the way the yankees are last decades news the suck go rays and mets
  6. random content generator
    6. Posted by random content generator Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    Go Rays! Inflict all the injuries you can on those Bronx a$$holes, and let's see the RED SOX win it all again this year!
  7. TX_Spyder
    7. Posted by TX_Spyder Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:35 pm EDT

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    Ballsy play Rays. Da Rayz have been a thorn in the side of the Yanquis for the past coupla seasons and few people take notice. I wonder if John Tortorella is a paid consultant to the Rays? Hey, why not have a penalty box in baseball? Now that might make the game fun, watchin A-Rod get capped or ??? 2 minute minor for roughing in the MLB.
  8. clockerq
    8. Posted by clockerq Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    duncan's a jerk. didn't man up in an interview after the game. said his slide was clean and he was just trying to knock the ball out of iwo's glove. b.s. his freakin knee was 3 feet in the air. the once proud yankees are embarassing themselves. it started with the arod sissy slap in the playoffs a few years ago, the steroid team of 2000, hank's big mouth, girardi crying after the last rays game. i think its hilarious. watch the yankmees implode this season. its going to happen. if there is a god, the rays will finish ahead of the bronx bullies this year. wouldn't that be sweet!!
  9. JOHN R
    9. Posted by JOHN R Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:33 pm EDT

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    I wonder if we can talk the rays management into a kick the crap out of the yankee`s fan night?
    i bet attendence would be great!
  10. random content generator
    10. Posted by random content generator Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    Billy Crystal's gonna be so proud to take the field with this class act, isn't he? Or maybe they brought him in especially to whack the Pirates around for some "Mazerowski payback" without fear of a season-long suspension. Hey, 'Duk, maybe you should retitle this entry "The Day the Yankees became the Bad News Bears. (Again.)"
  11. Joel B
    11. Posted by Joel B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    "I WONDER IF WE CAN TALK THE RAYS MANAGEMENT INTO A KICK THE CRAP OUT OF THE YANKEE`S FAN NIGHT? I BET ATTENDENCE WOULD BE GREAT!"
    Unfortunately Yanks and BoSox are the only times the Rays get a sell out crowd. But hopefully now it might be mostly Rays fans in attendance.
  12. redtop0027
    12. Posted by redtop0027 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    every one is sayin the rays won the fight...they didnt, First duncan made Iwamura bleed from the slide. Then gomes did run into duncan but didnt knoc him over and if i am correct the yankees are the beter team. so the yankees won not the devil rays, or whatever there new name is now a days.
  13. Scooter
    13. Posted by Scooter Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    It's the rays, not the d-rays
  14. Danielle
    14. Posted by Danielle Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    Did Billy Crystal get in on it?
  15. redtop0027
    15. Posted by redtop0027 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    every one is sayin the rays won the fight...they didnt, First duncan made Iwamura bleed from the slide. Then gomes did run into duncan but didnt knoc him over and if i am correct the yankees are the beter team. so the yankees won not the devil rays, or whatever there new name is now a days. p.s gomes triped over the bag when he tried to tackel duncan. Plus last time i checked florida is were old people go to retire not were the #@% rays go to play baseball.
  16. dman
    16. Posted by dman Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    Tro
  17. dman
    17. Posted by dman Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    The "Rays" are still the rays and the yankees are still baseball. I guess "playing hard" is all in the eyes of the beholder
  18. Marcus
    18. Posted by Marcus Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    yankee haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  19. The Deege
    19. Posted by The Deege Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    You got a bunch of nit-wits commenting on this story who don't know what was behind Duncan's hard slide. Last week a D-Ray scrub plowed into a young Yankee catcher in a spring training game breaking his wrist. In a SPRING TRAINING GAME. It's unheard of in the major leagues. The Yanks were pissed, and they shoulda been. Tampa did the same thing in a game the week before and both times their nut-job of a manager claimed he was all right with it. So, the Yanks took matters into their own hands and made this minor league franchise accountable for their bush-league actions. Now do you understand, Yankee-Haters?
  20. Marcus
    20. Posted by Marcus Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    yankee haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  21. dreamwaiter247
    21. Posted by dreamwaiter247 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    ok nooo wayyy its not sheley fault by accident his cleat was high. so GO YANKSSS!!!!!!!!!! and devil rays u need to go back to the minor leaguesss stop being such a wussy.
  22. Nicky T
    22. Posted by Nicky T Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 pm EDT

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    THE yanks could kill the rays
  23. Dane K
    23. Posted by Dane K Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Way to go Shelley, don't show the Ray's any respect at all.
    -YANKEE NATION.

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