Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:16 pm EST
Somebody must get Mike Mussina to reconsider this whole retiring business.
Not that Mussina will change his mind. He doesn't seem like the Brett Favre-type to do so. No, not at all the kind to wait until mid-season, have a mini-auction for his services before announcing triumphantly from George's Box that he's "back!"
That's not Mussina's style. When he says, "I'm done," he probably means it. Too bad, because baseball needs more guys like Mussina. He's a smart cookie with a quirky personality who seems to make for a solid teammate and those are fine reasons to have him around. So is his unfulfilled personal quest to be on a World Series winner.
But there's another reason he should stay.
Baseball needs durable, consistent, good and sometimes-great pitchers. We whine about it all of the time, how things ain't how they used to be with pitchers, how there never will be another 300-game winner (except for Randy Johnson ... well, maybe, hopefully) because pitchers just don't do that anymore.
The game needs a few good men. And Mussina needs the game, if just for a little longer.
Mussina is, as any reasonable statistical analysis would show, a Hall of Fame pitcher. I'm just not sure the rest of the world — specifically the Hall electorate, which isn't always easily swayed or reasonable — is convinced.
He doesn't have 300 wins or 3,000 strikeouts and he's never won a Cy Young Award. Those facts alone will prevent many of the writers from casting a vote for Mussina, who has 270 victories, 2,813 strikeouts and one second-place finish in the Cy. He also only has one 20-win season — the just completed 2008 — to his name.
And now, he's retiring, within whispering range of those arbirtary and artificial but undeniably important milestones.
Which is why voters will likely look at Moose and say "Good, but not great."
True, Mussina wasn't as great as Greg Maddux or Roger Clemens at their greatest, but there is something great to be said for being consistently good for a long time. Nine times he's finished in the top six in Cy Young voting. Five times he was an All-Star. Seven times he won a Gold Glove.
Mussina's not going to hang around just so some stubborn writer becomes convinced he's a Hall of Famer. If he wasn't a Hall of Famer before, don't vote for him because of something he did at age 40 or 41, he'd probably say.
But Mussina wouldn't just be hanging around.
Mussina still can pitch. Many thought his career was toast during the 2007 season, when his ERA screamed to a career-worst 5.15, and his strikeout rate dropped a disturbing amount (if you are disturbed by stikeout rates, which some of us ARE). His 2008 season was pretty close to run-of-the-mill for Mussina.
The good news is that he leaves on a high note, finishing with 20 victories for the first time, and with the last of his Gold Gloves.
The bad news is that I'm just not sure it was high enough to get into the Hall, a spot where he definitely belongs.
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While I'll grant that the 300 wins is an artificial statistic (although the argument should be made that it may be less so for a pitcher who pitched for the Yankees in the late 90's/early 2000's), the strikeouts and Cy Young award most certainly are not.
Especially for a pitcher with such a lauded and consistent career as you trumpet, the fact that he fell short of all three measures is glaring. A pitcher with such a long career, parts of which were spent on such great Yankees squads, should have at least pulled out one of the three landmarks.
Moose was good. He's a first ballot Hall of Great Careers. But you are indeed in the minority if you think he's a no-brainer for the Hall of Fame.
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Mussina is tied for 33rd in wins, there are 38 pitchers who have won 270 or more games.
Out of those 38 players only FIVE pitchers have a better win percentage: Lefty Grove, Christy Mathewson, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson.
So when it comes down to it - winning ball games - only FIVE pitchers in the HISTORY of baseball have done it at a better clip than Mussina when their career is said and done(Well, not done yet for Johnson but close).
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I never get the above(This isn't aimed at you, Yogaflame, but at the idea of this). So if Mussina plays a few more seasons, does poorly but goes around 11-14 in all of them with an ERA over 4, he should then get in because he hit the "magic" number of 300? If anyone will vote him in because of three poor seasons like that, then they do not deserve a vote.
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Blyleven had 60 shutouts.......60
and his strikeout total is other worldy.
But he gets no love since he bounced around for 20 years
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You can not compare numbers like ERA and CGs, these are completely different eras. Bob Gibson played when bullpens were completely different beasts.
Also remember, Mussina played during an era were many hitters(and apparently pitchers too)were on steroids and offense exploded - so ERAs all around were higher.
As for Mussina and ERA, compared to other players who played during his era, in 11 of his 18 years he finished in the top ten in ERA for the AL.
Bob Gibson, had an ERA in the top ten in 8 times of his 17 seasons.
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from what i heard (the first 15 minutes), he had looked at the last 4 years of his career during the offseason (2004-2007), and saw that one year had been tip top (06), two ok, but nothing great (2004-2005) and one horrible (2007).
moose then said that he really did not want to risk pitching on and on if he was going to be run-of-the-mill at best.
he also mentioned that once he hit 250 at the end of 2007, 300 became an issue, but it had taken him 4 years to go from 200 to 250.
personally, i think that the possibility of 300 became this huge crutch for moose, and he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by it....
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as for the numbers, 300 wins is arbitrary. 3000 strike outs is arbitrary (you don't need a ton of strikeouts to be a good pitcher), the only one that isn't arbitrary is the cy young award, and it's because of what i said above that he never won one. he pitched very good, for a very long time, but he never made a lot of noise doing it, so he was often overlooked.
hall of fame material??? that remains to be seen. i for one would be happy to see it, but wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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