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Game of the Day: Blue Jays 10, Yankees 4

Foolish pride of the Yankees: What in the name of Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey and Thurman Munson is Jorge Posada(notes) doing? Posada personally instigated a bench-clearing brawl — which included actual punches landed — Tuesday night after overreacting to a pitch Toronto reliever Jesse Carlson(notes) threw behind his backside.

Here are moving pictures of the incident.

The Yankees appear to be cruising to the AL East title, they have the best record in the league and all they need to do is stay healthy as they prepare for the playoffs — you know, the thing they missed last season? And yet, the ego of one of the Yanks' leaders is writing checks the team cannot cash. It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, Jorge. Starting with yourself.

As Pete Abraham in the LoHud Blog points out, you knew the Jays would retaliate after Mark Melancon(notes) drilled Aaron Hill(notes) in the back. So, Carlson did, by throwing behind (in Shawn Estes fashion) Posada's posterior. The pitch wasn't anywhere near Posada's head, but must have whizzed by his brains. And, because he's a hothead, Posada started steaming at Carlson.

"You don't want to do that," Posada can be seen saying on the replay.

The benches cleared, including the bullpens, but everyone went back to their respective corners when the fuss died.

After Posada worked a walk and later came around to score, he crossed Carlson's path on the way back to the Yankees dugout and gave him a shove. Classy. Carlson called him out for being a punk and Posada charged after him, clearing the benches again.

This time, punches were thrown — evidenced by the shiner on Carlson's head which reminds me of two other marks, the one on Mikhail Gorbachev (above, center) and the Big Red Spot on Jupiter. A fan even threw a full bottle of soda pop into the scrum and hit umpire Derryl Cousins in the knee; he had to leave the game. All because a 38-year-old got his feelings hurt.

Abraham also said he saw A.J. Burnett(notes) wrestling (this was in the fight), the arms of Mark Teixeira(notes) being held back and even Derek Jeter(notes) being agitated. One of them goes down, so do the Yankees chances come October. There's also the matter of discipline from Major League Baseball. Posada probably will get five games off. He's lucky.

"We've already had a discussion," manager Joe Girardi said. "I told them there is a lot at stake here and we can't afford to get anyone hurt or lose anyone or get people suspended. We can't do that."

Posada seems embarrassed now. At least he's catching up.

"It's something that shouldn't happen, you know? You've got to carry the weight and hopefully we can end it tonight. ... It's hard to compose yourself," Posada said. "I don't want my kids to see that. Hopefully they won't."

Go sell your book.

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Feelin' Rundown (nobody else was kung fu fighting):

Giants 10, Rockies 2: Though he's still got a ways to go to pay off the $126 million, this was Barry Zito's(notes) first really big win for the Giants, who have made the Rockies look unpresidential the past two games, outscoring them 19-3. ... Juan Uribe(notes), who's the Panda? Damn right.

Dodgers 5, Pirates 4 (13 inn.): This makes for a major league-leading six game-ending hits for Andre Ethier(notes), whose two-run homer shamed Ryan Doumit's(notes) RBI single in the top of the inning. L.A.'s magic kingdom number for clinching a playoff berth is 10.

Red Sox 4, Angels 1: I'll never get tired of this picture of Dice-K, in his inflatable winter coat, and agent Boras.

Athletics 6, Rangers 1: As counterintuitive as it seems, they've run out of gas in Texas. Better call the Lord Humungous to fix that, pronto.

Royals 11, Tigers 1: KC's Robinson Tejeda(notes), making a case for ... something. ... Jarrod Washburn's(notes) knee finally gave way, joining his other ineffective body parts. The Tigers are having trouble piecing together a pitching rotation, so appealing to the league to use a tee, or having one of the opposing teams' fathers pitch, seem like real options.

Twins 5, Indians 4: No time to mourn Justin Morneau(notes) — we got a second-rate division to steal!

White Sox 6, Mariners 3: Yeah, the White Sox too, sheesh.

Marlins 2, Cardinals 1: An intro is in order for Sean Puffy Diddy Nine West. ... The difference: Dan Uggla's(notes) ability off the tee.

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1-2-3 (knock this out, go get breakfast):

Orioles 10, Rays 5: Eat your Wieters.

Phillies 5, Nationals 0: Cliff Mock(s) you.

Braves 6, Mets 0: Tommy's a 10.

Reds 5, Astros 4: Double your Janish.

Cubs 13, Brewers 7: Milwalkee. Drew Barrymore!

D-backs 4, Padres 2: Reynolds raps 42.

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  1. Bondo
    1. Posted by Bondo Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:47 am EDT

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    Typical. That's exactly why I don't watch anymore.
  2. M
    2. Posted by M Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:57 am EDT

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    You must have been watching a different game. Posada didn't "shove" anyone. Carlson, playing out of position, tipped his glove down as Posada ran by him after scoring. There was no reason for Carlson to be standing there other than to provoke Posada and there was not a "shove" of any kind up to that point. Carlson's big mouth overloaded his ^**. Hip Hip Jorge!!!!!
  3. JohnC
    3. Posted by JohnC Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:02 am EDT

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    Hey Brown , did you ever play the game ? If a pitcher throws behind you he is trying to hit you . I was taught in college that a batter will usually back into a pitch thrown behind him . Yes , we threw at batters back in college before they put in all the candy ass rules . That pitch was no accident !
  4. Chris
    4. Posted by Chris Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:21 am EDT

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    It is obvious you journalistic skills are driven by your distaste for anything Yankee...
    it would've been a halfway decent piece but you just had to throw in those comments about
    the Yankees missing the playoffs last year...that was real relative to the incident.
    Your line about where Jorge's brains are located any 12 y/o couldv'e come up w/that.
    Granted it was not the smartest move by Posada but then again this story was not written by the smartest journalist either.
    i did like the pic of Jupiter and Carlson's head ...props to you for that.
  5. mikey
    5. Posted by mikey Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:24 am EDT

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    Yankee pitchers hitting Toronto batters is what brought it on and the Yankees couldnt deal with the payback...
  6. AgentUtah
    6. Posted by AgentUtah Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:24 am EDT

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    Jeter is in the middle when it all goes crazy, trying to get everyone to calm down . . . he looks like Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House yelling "All is well!"
  7. HawkeyeGirl
    7. Posted by HawkeyeGirl Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:25 am EDT

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    Proof positive that once again, all the Yankee's money can't buy class. And people wonder why everyone outside of New York hates the Yankees.
  8. aw
    8. Posted by aw Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:36 am EDT

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    Everyone outside of New York hates the Yankees?? Hmmm....guess all those fans cheering for the Yankees at other ball parks come all the way from New York.
    Carlson had no business standing at the plate when Posada scored. He was looking for trouble.
  9. Michael
    9. Posted by Michael Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:37 am EDT

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    Can you change the wording of "A fan" threw a bottle of soda to "A total freaking moron idiot" please? Thanks.
  10. Michael
    10. Posted by Michael Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:39 am EDT

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    As for the incident, totally wrong time for Posada to over react. Hope he enjoys the "rest" he's going to get and that it doesn't cost the Yankees in the standings. Boston seems to be getting hot at the wrong time although it should come as no surprise that they are, they've been underachieving for a good part of the year.
  11. MIZZLEFIZZLE
    11. Posted by MIZZLEFIZZLE Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 am EDT

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    if it was your team you would be all for it...that punk asked for an ass whoopin. our pitchers didnt throw at them on purpose and you know it
  12. Smoshed
    12. Posted by Smoshed Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:57 am EDT

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    Hip Hip Whore-hey. Hip Hip Whore-hey. Al Yankzeera and its constituents say Posada didn't do anything wrong. There was no cheap shot. Georgie just had a twitch in his elbow. He'd never set a bad example for the little ones. Kanye West interrupted the brawl to say the best elbow of the year was thrown in Dodger Stadium. Joe Wilson shouted over Kanye with expletives about his #$%! "fabrication". Lil Joe got a swollen eye and a bloody ear. But Georgie didn't do anything wrong at all. Lil Joe and Georgie discussed the new upcoming television season in the manager's office immediately after the game. After exchanging their TiVo recommendations they reminisced about yankmee pitching having hit two Blue Jay batters earlier in the game. Just another night in the new improved zoo with higher prices.
  13. Duk
    13. Posted by 'Duk Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:57 am EDT

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    Who knew that CC's job description included bouncing duties?
  14. Dingleberry
    14. Posted by Dingleberry Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:58 am EDT

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    Hip Hip
  15. D-CUP
    15. Posted by D-CUP Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:07 am EDT

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    This just confirms how much of a b**ch posada is. Hes not even the best catcher anymore, so stop acting like you are somebody, you are a nobody. Carlson was doing exactly what a pitcher is supposed to do, position himself behind the catcher to back up a potential throw. Posada didnt shove him, but a chicken wing wasnt needed. Hes a thug, always has been always will be. He was looking for a scuffle. Again, hes just a b**ch.
  16. D-CUP
    16. Posted by D-CUP Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:08 am EDT

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    This just confirms how much of a b**ch posada is. Hes not even the best catcher anymore, so stop acting like you are somebody, you are a nobody. Carlson was doing exactly what a pitcher is supposed to do, position himself behind the catcher to back up a potential throw. Posada didnt shove him, but a chicken wing wasnt needed. Hes a thug, always has been always will be. He was looking for a scuffle. Again, hes just a b**ch.
  17. ne0n_dj
    17. Posted by ne0n_dj Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:10 am EDT

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    " he crossed Carlson's path on the way back to the Yankees dugout and gave him a shove. Classy. Carlson called him out for being a punk"...
    man if this was a court case, David Brown would be dismissed for being an unreliable witness... just watch the videoclip and you could see that it was all about Carlson doing everything he could to start something...
    If Posada was a punk he would have charged Carlson once he pitched behind him but Jorge kept it cool...anyway I ain't a Yankee fan but this was embarrasing journalism... I thought Yahoo! was supposed to be unbiased??
    This article would have belonged better on a Mariner blog....
  18. garyphariss
    18. Posted by garyphariss Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:13 am EDT

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    Rockem, Sockem Yankees. Nothing wrong with a good brawl once in a while. Besides that who in the world would not want to hit a Canadian.
  19. fsubluedevils
    19. Posted by fsubluedevils Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:13 am EDT

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    Mr. David Brown, the author of this article.... Could you not make it any more evident that you are a Yankee Hater. Yes, Posada should have known retaliation was coming at some point. It's baseball. It happens. However, Carlson was looking for a scuffle because he had no reason to be backing up homeplate, he should have been down the first baseline where the relay throw was coming in. And there was no shove. It was like a chicken wing elbow to tell Carlson to get the **** out of the way. As an elder statesman of the league, Posada should have handled the situation better, but he cant get walked on either.
  20. fsubluedevils
    20. Posted by fsubluedevils Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:14 am EDT

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    Mr. David Brown, the author of this article.... Could you not make it any more evident that you are a Yankee Hater. Yes, Posada should have known retaliation was coming at some point. It's baseball. It happens. However, Carlson was looking for a scuffle because he had no reason to be backing up homeplate, he should have been down the first baseline where the relay throw was coming in. And there was no shove. It was like a chicken wing elbow to tell Carlson to get the heck out of the way. As an elder statesman of the league, Posada should have handled the situation better, but he cant get walked on either.
  21. fsubluedevils
    21. Posted by fsubluedevils Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:14 am EDT

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    Mr. David Brown, the author of this article.... Could you not make it any more evident that you are a Yankee Hater. Yes, Posada should have known retaliation was coming at some point. It's baseball. It happens. However, Carlson was looking for a scuffle because he had no reason to be backing up homeplate, he should have been down the first baseline where the relay throw was coming in. And there was no shove. It was like a chicken wing elbow to tell Carlson to get the heck out of the way. As an elder statesman of the league, Posada should have handled the situation better, but he cant get walked on either.
  22. thebr0nxb0mber27
    22. Posted by thebr0nxb0mber27 Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:32 am EDT

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    David Brown, bottom line you are a Yankee Hater. You must be a Red Sox fan or something. Obviously, Posada was getting throw at if somebody throws behind you. You must have no concept of the game at all.
    Sweet comment at the bottom "go sell your book". Do you not have a soul, do you have any idea what the book is about? Very mature move.
  23. Fides
    23. Posted by Fides Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:35 am EDT

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    David Brown? JACKASS!!
  24. Kohlzy
    24. Posted by Kohlzy Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:36 am EDT

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    Yankees had it coming, they already purposely hit two Toronto batters in the game, not to mention throwing at Ruiz's head last week in Toronto...Good on Carlson for standing up for his team, espcially considering he has the build of a scarecrow.

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