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For the final a.m. in baseball's regular season, let's rise and shine together to recap the most recent diamond doings. Roll Call starts in Oakland, where Athletics manager Bob Geren paid tribute to his bullpen by eliminating the middle man — which, in this case, happened to be the starting pitcher — and simply handed the ball to his relief corps. Sounds innocent enough, but ...

Game of the Day: Angels 5, Athletics 3

Welcome to the future: The A's scratched right-hander Edgar Gonzalez for their season finale and replaced him with rookie left-hander Brad Kilby(notes) — rookie reliever Brad Kilby —  who pitched two scoreless innings against the AL West champions. Kilby was followed by six more relievers, none of whom went more than 1 1/3 innings apiece. Nothing was wrong with Gonzalez, other than his 0-4 record with a 5.26 ERA. Geren said he simply was making a gesture of gratitude to the A's bullpen.

From MLB.com:

"The bullpen has been a strength all year, and we'd like to finish our season on a positive," Geren said. "So we're going to go with our best guys. You might see anywhere from five to eight pitchers today, depending on how that game goes."

Moneybull: Fiddlesticks! I think general manager Billy Beane (above, not Frankenstein) is up to something. The idea that Geren is doing this just to be nice to his relief pitchers is preposterous. This is Beane's handiwork.

First, everybody on the A's had to learn to spell OPS. Then, nobody was allowed to steal second base. After only a limited amount of success with those axioms, Beane is moving on. I bet the radical fundamentalist A's general manager is experimenting with a new style of game management, one which entirely bypasses the expensively bad starting pitcher in favor of something like what the A's did Sunday.

Paying a staff of middle relievers is a lot cheaper than locking up New Mulder, New Zito and New Hudson to long-term contracts.

That's a non-starter: This idea will catch like Johnny Bench. In 10 years, you watch: The typical baseball team will have three regulars in starting rotations with the other two spots filled out by everyone else on the pitching staff — which will have up to 15 guys on it. Major league rosters will expand to 27, which will be fine with owners, because the extra spots will be taken by rookies and other low-paid middle relievers rather than better-paid, but bad, starters. A "quality start" will devolve into three innings and one earned run.

Like a mad gene splicer, Beane is speeding up the evolution of relief pitching. We thought it was Antonio Alfonseca's(notes) sixth finger, but that was a ruse, a distraction. This experiment is just the first stage, people! Wake up! Brad Kilby was only the first! They're here already! You're next! You're next, You're next...!

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Feelin' Rundown (one of us, one of us, one of us):

Tigers 5, White Sox 3: Rookie Ricky Porcello ain't scared of no Twinkies.

Twins 13, Royals 4: ... And we'll see you tomorrow afternoon!

Mariners 4, Rangers 3: Asked why he might not return, Ken Griffey smiled and thought of home in Orlando, Fla.

"I've got a 15-, 13- and 7-year old," he said. "Other than that, I have no reason not to."

Nationals 2, Braves 1 (15 inn.): The Nats season is finally dead, dawg.

Cubs 5, D-backs 2: Mark Reynolds(notes) finishes with 223 strikeouts. With a little work, 300 is possible.... Cubs trail the Cards by just seven in the all-important losses column with none to play for the Cubs.

Brewers 9, Cardinals 7 (10 inn.): I can't believe Tony La Russa is old enough to get the senior discount at IHOP. Get the hamburger club.

Mets 4, Astros 0: Marty, let's hop in the DeLorean, go back to May and warn the Mets to run away and hide before every single person in the Borough of Queens goes on the disabled list. They'd never believe us, Future Boy!

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1-2-3 (we're outta here):

Phillies 7, Marlins 6 (10 inn.): Cairo vs. Rockies.

Red Sox 12, Indians 7: Angels in 3 1/2.

Dodgers 5, Rockies 3: Brad made manager!

Giants 4, Padres 3 (10 inn.): Panda HR FTW.

Orioles 5, Blue Jays 4 (11 inn.): No mora Melvin.

Reds 6, Pirates 0: No trusty Dusty.

Yankees 10, Rays 2: Holy Jeebus, A-Rod.

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  1. Lew Ghost
    1. Posted by Lew Ghost Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:30 am EDT

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    GO A's (but I kinda think this is ridiculous, but not too improbable)
    and Go Kilby, S J S U
  2. Halcyon Daze
    2. Posted by Halcyon Daze Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:00 am EDT

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    Nice to see A-Rod get the homers and RBI's to go 30 and 100. Go Yankees.
    My predictions::
    NY over Detroit / Minnnesota (depending on which Yankee pitching staff shows up).
    LA Angels over Boston (The Angels are hungry the Sox appear to be holding on).
    St. Louis over LA Dodgers (I can't se the Dodger pitching staff handling Puhols and the other guy).
    The Phillies over The Rockies (Colorado had a nice run once again, but ...)
    ALCS
    Yankees over LA (The Yankees may just be the hungriest team ... time will tell).
    NLCS
    St. Louis over Philly (I just can't envision the Philly staf handling Puhols and that other fella).
    World Series
    The Yankees over St. Louis If the Yankees get this far, it's over ... I can actually envision the Yankees feasting on St. Louis' pitching staff ... still, I do amit that Puhols and his sidekick do cause concern).
    Final Words? Yeah, time will tell ...
  3. Barry Zuckerkorn
    3. Posted by Barry Zuckerkorn Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:11 am EDT

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    I remember reading something in the book 'Three Nights in August' that mentioned Tony LaRussa at one point changed his pitching rotation to something similar to what Oakland did yesterday. I think LaRussa still utilized "starters", but everyone was on a pitch/inning count. Every pitcher went in an equal rotation regardless of the score, or situation within the game. If memory serves... I don't think LaRussa stuck with this "idea" for very long. I doubt that plan would work for Oakland, or any other team for that matter. But, if anyone would be crazy enough to try it, it'd be Oakland and Billy Beane!
  4. RaymondGuy
    4. Posted by RaymondGuy Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:22 am EDT

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    A bunch of relievers working with a tiny strike zone against what are still steroid masking freaks still is Bud Ball.
    MLB + Bud Selig + MLBS Where more than a decade of records/stats to world series rings are all one big joke.
  5. str A's hooter
    5. Posted by str A's hooter Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:27 am EDT

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    Disappointed how Oakland ended its season. The A;s were going good durning the month of September. They won more games than any other team for awhile with good pitching, timely hitting and speed. It gave us A's fans hope for next year, and played havoc on pennant and wildcard races. The last week was a letdown.
  6. Barry Zuckerkorn
    6. Posted by Barry Zuckerkorn Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:34 am EDT

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    @ anotherrubbersoul: You said, "I can actually envision the Yankees feasting on St. Louis' pitching staff ..." Are you not aware that St. Louis has two of the best starting pitchers in all of baseball this season (Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter)? St. Louis also sports the 4th best team ERA (3.66) in all of baseball.
    In your Yankees vs. Tigers/Twins prediction you take the Yankees with the side note of "depending on which Yankee pitching staff shows up"... You then constantly acknowledge how "Pujols and 'the other guy' / 'that other fella' / 'his sidekick' do cause concern" (BTW the other guy/other fella/sidekick I believe you are referring to is Matt Holliday). So by your own words, isn't it possible that Pujols, Holliday and the rest of the Cardinals could feast on the Yankees pitching staff (and their 12th ranked 4.26 ERA)?
  7. Ibrahim
    7. Posted by Ibrahim Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:37 am EDT

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    NYY vs MIN BOS vs LAA STL vs LAD PHI vs COL NYY vs BOS (NYY in 5) STL vs PHI (PHI in 7) NYY vs PHI (Too far to make a prediction, Momentum will probably carry the winner)
  8. Phil M
    8. Posted by Phil M Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:46 am EDT

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    As long as Bud Selig and Co are committed to freak ball over baseball we'll get what we have...which is a souped up version of beer league softball.
  9. john
    9. Posted by john Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:53 am EDT

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    Last game of the season and your starting pitching lost 3 starters is the reason for the bullpen out there. Why not just use your bullpen its the last day. Make sense. This is not the first time this has happened in baseball and not the last. Baseball needs to adress why money teams are in the playoffs.
  10. LT
    10. Posted by LT Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:49 pm EDT

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    The Pirates beat the Dodgers using only their bullpen back on September 25, FYI.
  11. garrett s
    11. Posted by garrett s Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:24 pm EDT

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    you're so gayi bet albert pujols is your favorite player
  12. cashman bashman
    12. Posted by cashman bashman Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:41 pm EDT

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    John=another doesn't get it never will works for someone else.Adress why money teams are in the playoffs?Here is why and try not to let it start your brain on fire.#1There owners do not pocket the over the luxury tax money and profits,they reinvest it.#2they care what there business looks like and what it accomplishes.#3 they are smart enough business men to know spend ex amount on good product=good ballplayers and get a good client base=filled stadiums and tv network deals=an even bigger profit to buy more goods=ballplayers to fill the seats and keep tv execs happy the next yr.Your team =Take money Sox ,Yanks,mets,etc give you for luxury tax and stick it in your pocket refusing to follow the sucessfull business model laid out for them.Hence little to no profit=bad team yr after yr but wealthy owner=crybaby uneducated fans posting idiot big money comments instead of putting the blame where it belongs,your owner. But I don't expect you to understand,and you can rest assured that is why you do and always will work for someone else.Mlm or pyramid companies do not =self employment either.
  13. Buddy
    13. Posted by Buddy Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    Detroit takes care of Minnesota tomorrow
    NY Yankees outslug Detroit
    LA Angels outheart Boston
    St. Louis is too much for a soft LA Dodgers squad
    Philadelphia has too much talent to lose to Colorado
    LA Angels continue there unequaled dominance of the NY Yankees
    St. Louis outpitches the power packed Philies
    LA Angels raise title #2 in the name's of Preston Gomez and Nick Adenhart
  14. hot fries
    14. Posted by hot fries Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:25 pm EDT

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    you have to appreciate what billy beane has done in oakland. look at the pitchers that he has developed within the organization...tim hudson, mark mulder, barry zito, brett anderson, trevor cahill. now maybe if he could sign these younger guys he has now long-term and add a bat or two, they could be competitive again.
  15. john
    15. Posted by john Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:49 pm EDT

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    Cashman bashman is a dumb ass since only a couple of owners pocket their money so your post makes no sense. Baseball needs a salary cap and a minimum salary cap that would make baseball more even. The Yanks HAD to buy the 2 best free agents last year or they would not have made the playoffs. The yanks have the best area and manipulate the baseball market. Put baseball on a free enterprise system and things would equal out and baseball would be more even. Cashmanbashman is the first fan to cry when his team loses a game saying its not fair we spent the most. Please next time learn to type and write a complete sentence.
  16. Weedies
    16. Posted by Weedies Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:02 pm EDT

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    Great photo of Beane looking like a cult leader.
  17. Judge Bee
    17. Posted by Judge Bee Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    EXREMELY TIRED OF BEANE and his STUPID money ball ideas. For the past several years we have witnessed nothing but a LOSING, DISTGUSTING, PATHETIC, baseball, which is really really tiring for the fans. Beane has to either come up with money, get some good bats or pack it up and sell the team so that some one else can take over and put on some show. We, the fans are TIRED of BEANE and his MANTRA. His idea of getting rid of quality players for some inexperienced prospects and then getting rid of the prospects just as they become quality players is OLD STORY and certainly BORING. Billy has not done much since the Three Aces of 2000 and he won't. His CAT and MOUSE game has not worked and it won't if he keeps trading, training, and keeps shipping them and starting all over again. Learn from LA ANGELES, Beane if you are LOST, which I am sure you are by now. Give some thing back to the fans like your rivals have been doing.
  18. Judge Bee
    18. Posted by Judge Bee Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:34 pm EDT

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    What Oakland needs is a rebuild of managers, coaches and trainers. And it should start with Billy Bean and Bob Geren, moving down to the pitching coach, hitting coach bench coach and conditioning coach. For the past four years Bean and his company have not only been fooling themselves but they have managed to hypnotize fans with their so called re-build mantras. Their excuse of budget allowance has given them ridiculous authority to shamelessly trade some very solid and reliable, every day players in the name of rebuilding. Instead they brought no name, farm grown players, who can’t compete in the major league, due to their lack of experience and play time in the big league. And just as those farm grown players start showing some sparks, Billy begins shipping them out for new prospects who would take the team towards the worse. Oakland began facing turmoil, when Bean started the rebuild joke, only to get rid of sold, effective players. Every new player that Bean brought in was supposed to be a main part of the “Rebuild” crew. Instead, in a very short time those new arrivals were traded for a much inexperienced, ineffective player. Just look at some of great players that Bean traded for his so called “Prospects”. Why was Dan Harren traded? Where and how effective are the players, who were brought in that trade? Where is Nick Swisher “Who repeatedly was reported as the A’s future”? Where is Marco Scutaro “Clutch hitter”, Jermaine Dye, etc, etc?
    Fans are tired of supporting a losing team, supervised by self centered managers. Look at Boston/Yankees, Anaheim/Dodgers. It’s their fans that have made them as popular. And it is their team and the management that give it back to their fans. That relationship does not exist in Oakland and as long as Bean plays his buddy buddy favoritism by keeping his incompetent pal as a manager, Oakland will never be able to regain its glorious moments for many years to come. It is time for Lew Wolfe and company to point their finger to the direction of Bean and become serious in using their wealth in a more effective way. Fans are tired, they are fed up with supporting a losing team years after years. If these managers and owners can’t give any part of old glorious moments back to the fans, then they should fold their monkey business and head to the jungles of no where land, where they can entertain monkeys instead.
    Talk about last three season’s loss, records, loss of famous players. Talk about Anaheim and their success..talk about fans’ disapproval of Geren and players’ constant trades.
  19. Laura
    19. Posted by Laura Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:33 pm EDT

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    angels vs yankees.
    boston is gay. they will get swept by either team
  20. Disco
    20. Posted by Disco Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:58 pm EDT

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    the point of moneyball is to keep adapting and Beane is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past the no stealing and all OBP thing. He went onto defense and may very well be moving on again.
  21. Lew Ghost
    21. Posted by Lew Ghost Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:35 pm EDT

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    #18, you are a dumb loud know-nothing, go back to the depths of he!! from whence you came
  22. none
    22. Posted by none Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:01 pm EDT

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    The A's tried a similar pitching scheme in maybe 1993. It didn't work then.
  23. Lew Ghost
    23. Posted by Lew Ghost Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 pm EDT

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    I mean come on Judge Bee
    "For the past several years we have witnessed nothing but a LOSING, DISTGUSTING, PATHETIC, baseball, which is really really tiring for the fans."
    obviously you didn't pay attention in 06, or any time from 2000 to 06, they were great teams...
    "Look at Boston/Yankees, Anaheim/Dodgers. It’s their fans that have made them as popular."
    hmmmm, they don't have millions of people who can make it to every game, and they don't have another team that's 20x more popular than them within 20 miles... you sir are a dumb f%(#
  24. Glenn
    24. Posted by Glenn Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:48 pm EDT

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    FYI Beane doesnt own the A's. Learn who the owner is. Duh. It's Wolfe that owns the Athletics.
  25. woody
    25. Posted by woody Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:10 am EDT

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    2010 line up -1 kennedy-2 raji davis-3 cust -4 ???????5 -powell -6th-hairston-7th sweeney-8th suzuki-9th-ellis-bench -resign nomar -evaluate rest of players pitching-duesherer-braden -cahill maybe duesherer in pen/anderson 2 more quality starters -power bat not somebody over the hill young power bat-short or quality ist baseman not over the hill player on last legs-get rid of geren need manager to take young players and running game 2 next level-bullpen great season starters need to go more innings-bean wolf-geren stays -we continue losing seasons not right fit in manager /not tooting my own horn-i could take this club to the world series and beyond ,managing todays players is tough ,but i know i could turn this franchise into the next domoinant club in baseball. ilve the game it's history and i know i could be the next larussa-maybe we could have him back in oakland -but geren has to be removed as manager-go OAKLAND ATHLETICS 2010 LUV THEM A'S.

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